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TJHuronWed 08-Feb-17 09:58 AM
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#66874, "It looks to me like this is one thing (not that there aren't others) that CF got very right"


          

It's penalizing a character whose sole purpose appears to be to support a powerhouse character in ganging. And, yet, he isn't totally powerless. He's just offensively neutered. He can still offer support songs in those fights.

No offense to the player, but, it's justifying to me that a true gank character gets clipped like this.

I think the edges argument is relevant but not strong for making bards more playable 1 v 1. The edge that stands out the most to me for this and that is super expensive is swashbuckler for the humans and halfies. You have to be able to survive melee to go one on one. And going one on one as a bard is a finesse game. It takes awhile and you need to get the opponent to commit. While getting your ass-kicked in melee is a good way to get the opponent to commit it doesn't leave you much opportunity to turn the tables.

Do you know what really screws bards? High int classes are harder for bards to fight. And there are more since people tend to play dexy melee classes. Add resist mental preps on that and it's a tough go for bards. Edges are second to this in my opinion.

  

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HOT TopicA bard anti-gank code suggestion [View all] , Kstatida, Wed 08-Feb-17 09:07 AM
Reply RE: A bard anti-gank code suggestion, Jormyr, 08-Feb-17 01:38 PM, #23
Reply I knew I was good, Ganky bard (Anonymous), 08-Feb-17 02:47 PM, #24
     Reply RE: I knew I was good, Jormyr, 08-Feb-17 03:00 PM, #25
          Reply It's not about Zagaer, Kstatida, 08-Feb-17 03:10 PM, #26
               Reply RE: It's not about Zagaer, incognito, 09-Feb-17 02:05 AM, #30
                    Reply Mind sharing your edge points with me?, Ganky bard (Anonymous), 09-Feb-17 02:29 AM, #33
                    Reply Yeah, Daurvryn, give him EP so he can gank, Murphy, 09-Feb-17 02:36 AM, #34
                    Reply Worry not, I'm gonna share some with you, Ganky bard (Anonymous), 09-Feb-17 02:40 AM, #36
                    Reply RE: Mind sharing your edge points with me?, incognito, 09-Feb-17 09:52 AM, #38
                    Reply See above, Kstatida, 09-Feb-17 09:07 AM, #37
Reply As implemented, code is counter-productive, Saagkri, 08-Feb-17 12:48 PM, #19
Reply I think it's based on current GoM, Kstatida, 08-Feb-17 12:51 PM, #20
Reply Songs never fail 1 v 1, lasentia, 08-Feb-17 12:56 PM, #21
     Reply Correct, Saagkri, 09-Feb-17 01:25 PM, #41
          Reply Kill 20 people solo and you're back on track, Kstatida, 10-Feb-17 04:18 AM, #42
Reply It looks to me like this is one thing (not that there a..., TJHuron, 08-Feb-17 09:58 AM #6
Reply This isn't about the sole purpose ganking character, Kstatida, 08-Feb-17 11:31 AM, #9
Reply Been there since my first bard , lasentia, 08-Feb-17 12:05 PM, #14
     Reply My fiends were useless as a Elf Romantic., TMNS, 08-Feb-17 03:44 PM, #27
Reply I agree but not re high int issue, incognito, 09-Feb-17 02:08 AM, #31
     Reply the only edge we can afford these days, Murphy, 09-Feb-17 02:39 AM, #35
Reply I actually don't like this, lasentia, 08-Feb-17 09:33 AM, #4
Reply On the other hand, Kstatida, 08-Feb-17 11:23 AM, #8
     Reply Well no, lasentia, 08-Feb-17 11:51 AM, #10
     Reply Warriors don't have AOE attacks., Murphy, 08-Feb-17 12:03 PM, #12
          Reply That doesn't matter., lasentia, 08-Feb-17 12:09 PM, #15
               Reply RE: That doesn't matter., Kstatida, 08-Feb-17 12:45 PM, #18
               Reply I looked at it., Murphy, 08-Feb-17 10:15 PM, #29
     Reply RE: On the other hand, Grembolin (Anonymous), 08-Feb-17 11:55 AM, #11
          Reply Nobody cares, Murphy, 08-Feb-17 12:04 PM, #13
          Reply Butthurt?, Grembolin (Anonymous), 08-Feb-17 12:12 PM, #16
               Reply About what?, Murphy, 08-Feb-17 10:40 PM, #28
                    Reply Haha, Grembolin (Anonymous), 09-Feb-17 11:05 AM, #39
                         Reply Your hatred for ragers is obvious, Kstatida, 09-Feb-17 12:21 PM, #40
          Reply You've posted the log., Kstatida, 08-Feb-17 12:27 PM, #17
               Reply RE: You've posted the log., Grembolin (Anonymous), 08-Feb-17 01:21 PM, #22
Reply I'd like to see them lower the anti-gank threshold acro..., Sarien, 08-Feb-17 09:09 AM, #1
     Reply Knowing your bias, Kstatida, 08-Feb-17 09:12 AM, #2
          Reply The current super-gank bunch isn't limited to only gank..., Sarien, 08-Feb-17 09:14 AM, #3
               Reply And you address it how?, Murphy, 08-Feb-17 09:42 AM, #5
               Reply How I'd address it? Probably wouldn't be popular, Sarien, 08-Feb-17 10:18 AM, #7
               Reply RE: The current super-gank bunch isn't limited to only ..., incognito, 09-Feb-17 02:14 AM, #32
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