>I've played pre and post change croc. The form is fantastic
>for exploring. Regen + plus redux is great for solo explore.

It used to be an awesome form. I concur.

>Also, on the damage output (other discussion), the input skill
>does more consistent damage than the round based attacks and
>is generally more reliable.

You don't take a def form for its damage output. Also there as been no really noticable change in this department anyway so it is irrelevant from my point of view.

>Edit: When you claim it has been "nerfed":
>
>1. What time reference are you gauging this form against? Pre
>and post Shifter revamp?

I am refering to post July 2014 changes (see http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=47&topic_id=109&mesg_id=109&page=)

"Some shifter forms have been rebalanced slightly; generally speaking, when evaluating a form's balance we now consider higher end HP regen more valuable and higher end normal dodging less valuable. Ergo, this set of changes is good for you if you're a mongoose and not so good for you if you're a crocodile."

If you haven't played a croc/komodo since these changes then I understand where you are coming from, but you cannot understand where I am coming from.

>2. In what sense has it been nerfed in your opinion?

It tanks with its face (as expected) but the damage reduction has been nerfed to oblivion. It now takes WAY more damage. We're not talking an extra 10% damage. We're talking an extra 500% damage. It's gone from Significant Damage Reduction to what feels like Minor Damage Reduction (I'd have to double check).

That is a gamechanging nerf and makes the form completely useless except as an OOC regen bunny.

>Edit: Also "Nerfed into oblivion" is pretty strong language to
>use generally. Especially when this player is new and has
>explicitly mentioned their intent to explore in game, rather
>than PK.

I stand by that comment. I also advised the player in question IC to switch out croc.

>Subjectively speaking I don't think anything has been nerfed
>into oblivion at any point in CF's history. Nerfed? Maybe.
>Toned down? Almost certainly.

All that needed to be done IMHO was to boost lemur and mongoose. Nerfing the regen forms was a really bad choice.

Edit: Improved readability