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laxmanWed 30-Nov-11 04:18 PM
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#41722, "Dispelling the ABS garbage"


          

So I may be close to alone I guess in thinking that lots of dam redux doesn't = deadliness. While there are certainly advantages to survivability its not the be all end all of mage success.

I know this is a super duper longshot but I would be curious if maybe an imm would be willing to put in a change or two to put a metric behind the need for dam redux.

The data to capture would be whenever a player lands a kill the % of total HP they currently have and the % of dam redux they have across the board (its just simpler to disregard situational dam redux like protection/giant resist/elemental resist).

so in the end we will have two numbers. If the average dam reduction is 50% and the average HP when killing is 70% then we see that in general people are over prepping and a lot of this we need ABS talk is in reality unfounded. If we however see average dam redux at like 40% and average HP at 15% then it will substantiate the "we need ABS to compete" argument.

There are of course other factors at play like gear retention, ganging, yada yada but this would be a failry solid estimator of the general level of need for dam redux in PK.

  

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HOT TopicDispelling the ABS garbage [View all] , laxman, Wed 30-Nov-11 04:18 PM
Reply I think your perspective is flawed, Oldril, 15-Dec-11 07:14 AM, #22
Reply RE: Dispelling the ABS garbage, Eskelian, 12-Dec-11 03:37 PM, #7
Reply RE: Dispelling the ABS garbage, Isildur, 09-Dec-11 04:41 PM, #6
Reply RE: Dispelling the ABS garbage, wareagle, 09-Dec-11 12:25 PM, #5
Reply RE: Dispelling the ABS garbage, Malakhi, 30-Nov-11 11:36 PM, #4
Reply RE: Dispelling the ABS garbage, Eskelian, 12-Dec-11 03:41 PM, #8
     Reply True words, incognito, 12-Dec-11 03:43 PM, #9
     Reply RE: Dispelling the ABS garbage, Malakhi, 12-Dec-11 04:54 PM, #10
          Reply I think this is probably going to be the best solution, Gaplemo, 12-Dec-11 06:49 PM, #11
          Reply This solution won't really do anything, laxman, 13-Dec-11 09:30 AM, #13
               Reply Suddenly deathblow makes me tank with my face even more, Artificial, 13-Dec-11 09:39 AM, #14
                    Reply I still don't get why when we talk about ABS the only m..., laxman, 13-Dec-11 10:43 AM, #15
                    Reply You must really suck at CF, Oldril, 15-Dec-11 07:15 AM, #23
                         Reply Swing and a miss bro, Artificial, 15-Dec-11 07:29 AM, #27
                              Reply To be fair..., Twist, 15-Dec-11 10:36 AM, #28
                                   Reply This is why you are an imm and I am a player, Oldril, 15-Dec-11 10:46 AM, #29
                                   Reply I've said my next will be a rager, and I'm sticking to ..., Artificial, 15-Dec-11 10:53 AM, #31
                                   Reply For full misery try duergar non-thief, Oldril, 15-Dec-11 10:59 AM, #32
                                   Reply Awesome, good on you for trying them out! (nt), Twist, 15-Dec-11 11:26 AM, #38
                                   Reply Sent you a pm too. nt, Artificial, 15-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #35
                                   Reply RE: To be really fair..., Welverin, 15-Dec-11 11:19 AM, #36
                                   Reply Well, sure, but..., Twist, 15-Dec-11 11:23 AM, #37
                                   Reply Uh... Evil Conjies are over powered., Alston, 15-Dec-11 12:33 PM, #39
                                   Reply RE: Uh... Evil Conjies are over powered., Daevryn, 15-Dec-11 12:49 PM, #40
                                   Reply RE: To be fair..., Eskelian, 19-Dec-11 04:52 PM, #42
                                   Reply seeing lower case damage is so BORING!, laxman, 19-Dec-11 07:11 PM, #43
                                   Reply Well said.., Thinhallen, 22-Dec-11 01:36 AM, #44
          Reply Aren't they limited to 3 already?, Straklaw, 12-Dec-11 07:00 PM, #12
          Reply RE: Dispelling the ABS garbage, Eskelian, 13-Dec-11 01:51 PM, #16
          Reply A balanced solution idea, laxman, 14-Dec-11 12:14 PM, #17
               Reply I still like my old idea, incognito, 14-Dec-11 01:51 PM, #18
               Reply How bout we do the same thing with call resist? nt, Artificial, 14-Dec-11 02:17 PM, #19
                    Reply I hereby award thee #1 troll award for the month of Dec..., TMNS, 14-Dec-11 11:36 PM, #21
                    Reply I actually wasn't trolling here, Artificial, 15-Dec-11 07:30 AM, #26
                    Reply LOL at the guy whose life got ruined by ragers, Oldril, 15-Dec-11 07:16 AM, #24
                         Reply Ragers burned my village. nt, Artificial, 15-Dec-11 07:26 AM, #25
                              Reply Play one, seriously not trying to be a ####., Oldril, 15-Dec-11 10:47 AM, #30
                                   Reply I am fairly certain you're the only one who thinks this..., Artificial, 15-Dec-11 11:00 AM, #33
                                        Reply I disagree, Oldril, 15-Dec-11 11:01 AM, #34
                                             Reply I agree with this., Tesline, 19-Dec-11 03:39 PM, #41
               Reply RE: A balanced solution idea, Elerosse, 14-Dec-11 09:24 PM, #20
Reply It makes a massive difference, incognito, 30-Nov-11 06:21 PM, #3
Reply Just to point out an obvious flaw, tongni12, 30-Nov-11 05:27 PM, #2
Reply RE: Dispelling the ABS garbage, Nreykre, 30-Nov-11 04:55 PM, #1
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