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#40790, "Personally, I don't care"
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Had it been any non-imm, the PBF would have been mostly normal, with the exception of the imm induction into Scion at level 18 and 3 hours into playtime.
Daevryn (and other imms), if you want to stop the conspiracy theories, create an environment where you and the imms are beyond reproach in matters like these. There are ways you can accomplish this without IP-stalking, as you suggested. Personally, I'd prefer you play the game (harassment-free) if you want because I feel that creatively expressing yourself as a mortal keeps you somewhat in touch with the playerbase. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, Twist has had several unsuccessful mortals since his return. However, since this one was SO successful in SO many ways, it's easy to imagine behind-the-scenes tampering (whether there was any or not). Tavlin was a stellar character, nobody is denying that. Maybe he deserved even more than he got, but being that he was who he was, matters were more complicated. It's like a politician getting his picture taken with a hooker. Maybe there's a perfectly good explanation for why he happened to be there with the hooker, but people are just going to assume the worst.
Some headache cures: - log IP tracks, publish them in PBF. For all the bitching about this thing in particular, I'm surprised this hasn't been thought of already. Probably would save you some headaches.
- imm exp averages for a given day, week, month, etc. Well, maybe Twist got a bunch of imm experience early on, but was he the *only* person to get rewarded that entire day and by that much? What if one imm was in a good mood and just handed it out like candy at their own discretion for a particular day? This is a good idea because imm experience early on offers a nice advantage in edge picking. Transparency ends speculation.
- standards for induction beyond the current scope. I've had characters make it into a cabal within a few hours of playing time too, but I've also had characters wait 50+ hours to get into a cabal. There *should* be some standards to negate either extreme. A character should be at least X hours old OR have existed for X number of real weeks. For cabal leaders and imms, it should be known how long someone is an applicant. The longer someone is an applicant for a given cabal without induction, the more priority they should be given to get inducted, or at least put on the right path if it's felt they're not ready.
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I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this....
[View all] , Torak, Sat 15-Oct-11 01:55 AM
Really, the most important question here is,
Dallevian,
17-Oct-11 09:23 AM, #96
He secretely steals the donations...,
Onewingedangel,
17-Oct-11 12:40 PM, #120
Personally, I don't care,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
17-Oct-11 08:48 AM #92
Curious what you mean...,
Twist,
17-Oct-11 10:27 AM, #105
Simple,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
17-Oct-11 10:41 AM, #108
It wouldn't do any good.,
Valkenar,
17-Oct-11 11:27 AM, #112
The thing is, even if he was hooked up, who cares?,
TheDude,
16-Oct-11 03:58 PM, #51
A small subset of CF likes to ruin other people's fun.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 04:06 PM, #52
Except...,
robdarken_,
16-Oct-11 06:30 PM, #65
RE: The thing is, even if he was hooked up, who cares?,
ORB,
16-Oct-11 05:02 PM, #59
RE: The thing is, even if he was hooked up, who cares?,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 05:21 PM, #62
Again, how would this negatively affect you though?,
TheDude,
16-Oct-11 07:15 PM, #67
Essentially:,
Daevryn,
16-Oct-11 07:23 PM, #68
RE: Essentially:,
Onewingedangel,
16-Oct-11 10:27 PM, #79
Actually, Twist plays his share of duds.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 10:37 PM, #82
RE: Actually, Twist plays his share of duds.,
Onewingedangel,
16-Oct-11 10:45 PM, #83
I was a big fan of Sirak btw.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 11:07 PM, #84
RE: I was a big fan of Sirak btw.,
Onewingedangel,
16-Oct-11 11:11 PM, #85
Ghrimriddor.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 11:34 PM, #86
RE: Ghrimriddor.,
Onewingedangel,
16-Oct-11 11:47 PM, #87
RE: Actually, Twist plays his share of duds.,
Daevryn,
17-Oct-11 08:16 AM, #91
That's why I think Balrahd is the best.,
TMNS,
17-Oct-11 09:55 AM, #99
He's certainly up there (n/t),
Daevryn,
17-Oct-11 10:06 AM, #101
Jagaub/Balrahd/Mek/Twist/Intronan/Kasty. nt,
Dallevian,
17-Oct-11 10:12 AM, #104
RE: Essentially:,
ORB,
17-Oct-11 09:26 AM, #93
I just want to be clear...,
Twist,
17-Oct-11 10:29 AM, #106
RE: I just want to be clear...,
ORB,
17-Oct-11 10:48 AM, #109
You've a very interesting view,
Twist,
17-Oct-11 11:07 AM, #110
RE: You've a very interesting view,
Daevryn,
17-Oct-11 11:26 AM, #111
RE: You've a very interesting view,
ORB,
17-Oct-11 11:48 AM, #113
Re: ROC,
Zulghinlour,
17-Oct-11 11:49 AM, #114
RE: Re: ROC,
ORB,
17-Oct-11 12:01 PM, #116
No, ROC isn't one con per one kill,
Tsunami,
17-Oct-11 12:05 PM, #117
RE: Re: ROC,
Daevryn,
17-Oct-11 12:13 PM, #118
Mummies have always been 2 deaths/con,
Twist,
17-Oct-11 12:24 PM, #119
Not flaming but...,
Dallevian,
16-Oct-11 11:49 AM, #44
Now I wish I'd given him that lich quest,
Rayihn,
16-Oct-11 06:44 AM, #39
Vocal minority at it again, I guess,
MoetEtChandon,
16-Oct-11 10:34 AM, #43
So wait...,
TripHitNdip (Anonymous),
16-Oct-11 01:35 PM, #49
Funny thing about assumptions...,
Twist,
16-Oct-11 02:46 PM, #50
RE: So wait...,
Daevryn,
16-Oct-11 07:26 PM, #69
RE: I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this....,
Reksah,
15-Oct-11 11:16 PM, #30
Seriously dude, don't listen to Torak.,
TMNS,
15-Oct-11 11:27 PM, #32
Ok whoa whoa, #### off,
Torak,
16-Oct-11 12:11 AM, #34
RE: I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this....,
ORB,
16-Oct-11 01:28 AM, #36
RE: I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this....,
Twist,
16-Oct-11 11:55 AM, #45
As Ckath I'll try to remember what happened.,
Amberion,
16-Oct-11 04:09 PM, #53
RE: I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this....,
ORB,
16-Oct-11 04:55 PM, #56
Niheriva was Jalim. I have suspicions about the others...,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 05:15 PM, #60
The reason I chose those three mortals...,
Twist,
16-Oct-11 05:39 PM, #63
RE: The reason I chose those three mortals...,
Daevryn,
16-Oct-11 07:31 PM, #70
I thought Flaaayin and para were the same player.,
Dallevian,
16-Oct-11 09:23 PM, #77
Nah. Paralouit I'm pretty sure you're correct about.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 10:29 PM, #81
I'm with the Forsaken here.,
DurNominator,
17-Oct-11 12:21 AM, #88
No one fessed up to the Flaaayin.,
TMNS,
17-Oct-11 01:49 AM, #90
The were both Katholas(sp?) the ex-Imm,
ORB,
17-Oct-11 09:20 AM, #95
RE: The were both Katholas(sp?) the ex-Imm,
Daevryn,
17-Oct-11 09:35 AM, #97
I always thought he was Paralouit.,
TMNS,
17-Oct-11 10:12 AM, #100
RE: I always thought he was Paralouit.,
Daevryn,
17-Oct-11 10:08 AM, #102
Indeed Stevers is not an IMM and I heard he played Nihe...,
Lhydia,
16-Oct-11 09:25 PM, #78
What the #### happened to you man?,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 10:28 PM, #80
I'll take this as jalim fessing up Wiril. nt,
DurNominator,
17-Oct-11 12:24 AM, #89
Didn't he get married? : ) nt,
Dallevian,
17-Oct-11 09:18 AM, #94
Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's loving.....,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 01:25 PM, #48
RE: Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's lovi...,
ORB,
16-Oct-11 04:48 PM, #55
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 04:56 PM, #57
I was actually thinking of lightmage n/t,
Vortex Magus,
16-Oct-11 06:54 PM, #66
He's just the best writer on CF.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 07:44 PM, #73
Give him a little more credit than that:,
Daevryn,
16-Oct-11 08:12 PM, #75
No doubt. He's just a really really good writer.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 08:43 PM, #76
RE: Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's lovi...,
Daevryn,
16-Oct-11 07:35 PM, #71
RE: Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's lovi...,
HammerSong,
16-Oct-11 08:12 PM, #74
RE: Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's lovi...,
ORB,
17-Oct-11 10:09 AM, #103
I disagree.,
ORB,
17-Oct-11 10:39 AM, #107
Hrm,
fist-law,
16-Oct-11 01:56 AM, #38
If it makes you feel better...,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 04:24 PM, #54
As a devil's advocate example...,
Splntrd,
15-Oct-11 10:14 PM, #27
I think there's some validity to your point, but...,
Bell,
15-Oct-11 04:07 PM, #19
Disagree, reasons inside.,
Explosion,
15-Oct-11 02:00 PM, #11
I -do- think Tavlin got rewarded pretty damn hard prett...,
Vortex Magus,
15-Oct-11 09:18 AM, #6
RE: I -do- think Tavlin got rewarded pretty damn hard p...,
Daevryn,
15-Oct-11 07:29 PM, #24
name a few?,
Dallevian,
15-Oct-11 08:57 PM, #25
I know for a fact he had a battle scout thief...,
TMNS,
15-Oct-11 09:14 PM, #26
was one,
Dallevian,
15-Oct-11 11:11 PM, #29
Yep. He copped to it too.,
TMNS,
15-Oct-11 11:26 PM, #31
That was 4? 5? years ago?,
Rayihn,
16-Oct-11 06:57 AM, #40
Huh? I never did :),
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 01:20 PM, #47
I keep saying imms need to play more mortals.,
lasentia,
16-Oct-11 04:58 PM, #58
You just made Poppa E cream his pants.,
TMNS,
16-Oct-11 05:16 PM, #61
RE: I keep saying imms need to play more mortals.,
Daevryn,
16-Oct-11 07:38 PM, #72
I don't mind IMM's getting rewards...,
Lhydia,
15-Oct-11 05:35 AM, #2
RE: I don't mind IMM's getting rewards...,
ORB,
15-Oct-11 07:40 AM, #3
RE: I don't mind IMM's getting rewards...,
Daevryn,
15-Oct-11 07:26 PM, #23
Didnt you cry the same way over the Battle leader?,
Oldril,
15-Oct-11 01:36 PM, #10
RE: I don't mind IMM's getting rewards...,
Zulghinlour,
16-Oct-11 12:41 AM, #35
Nope. n/t,
Lhydia,
16-Oct-11 08:23 AM, #42
He likes to be peed on is how I read it. nt,
SuperIsisMan,
16-Oct-11 01:04 PM, #46
My best character was "Elorik" in terms of rewards,
Tsunami,
15-Oct-11 03:40 AM, #1
RE: My best character was ,
ORB,
15-Oct-11 07:43 AM, #4
There were 0 necros in scion at the time.,
lasentia,
15-Oct-11 09:10 AM, #5
FWIW,
Nreykre,
15-Oct-11 09:36 AM, #7
RE: FWIW,
ORB,
15-Oct-11 12:13 PM, #8
I hunted for quite a while before deleting Tavlin...,
Twist,
15-Oct-11 02:18 PM, #12
Cursed kids!,
Straklaw,
15-Oct-11 02:56 PM, #14
The next Sunwarden shall be a Minotaur. I have prophes...,
Artificial,
15-Oct-11 03:19 PM, #17
I don't get the hate,
Oldril,
15-Oct-11 11:06 PM, #28
For the first and only time, I totally agree with this.,
TMNS,
15-Oct-11 11:42 PM, #33
RE: For the first and only time, I totally agree with t...,
ORB,
16-Oct-11 01:32 AM, #37
You blame Twist for the wrong things.,
lasentia,
16-Oct-11 07:27 AM, #41
RE: FWIW,
Onewingedangel,
15-Oct-11 03:03 PM, #15
Blame Mharlndarn,
Oldril,
15-Oct-11 01:31 PM, #9
RE: FWIW,
HammerSong,
15-Oct-11 02:47 PM, #13
Heh. It was supposed to my lowbie Fort pkiller!,
TMNS,
15-Oct-11 03:12 PM, #16
Keep at the globals,
lasentia,
15-Oct-11 03:23 PM, #18
RE: Keep at the globals,
The-me,
15-Oct-11 04:37 PM, #21
Yeah! Those things were awesome! N/T,
Amberion,
15-Oct-11 06:09 PM, #22
I just dont understand.,
Kalageadon,
15-Oct-11 04:27 PM, #20
LOOK AT IT THIS WAY,
SideStrider,
16-Oct-11 06:16 PM, #64
RE: LOOK AT IT THIS WAY,
SideStrider,
17-Oct-11 09:45 AM, #98
So?,
Tsunami,
17-Oct-11 11:56 AM, #115
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