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BaronMySoul (inactive user)Mon 17-Oct-11 08:48 AM
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#40790, "Personally, I don't care"


          

Had it been any non-imm, the PBF would have been mostly normal, with the exception of the imm induction into Scion at level 18 and 3 hours into playtime.

Daevryn (and other imms), if you want to stop the conspiracy theories, create an environment where you and the imms are beyond reproach in matters like these. There are ways you can accomplish this without IP-stalking, as you suggested. Personally, I'd prefer you play the game (harassment-free) if you want because I feel that creatively expressing yourself as a mortal keeps you somewhat in touch with the playerbase. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, Twist has had several unsuccessful mortals since his return. However, since this one was SO successful in SO many ways, it's easy to imagine behind-the-scenes tampering (whether there was any or not). Tavlin was a stellar character, nobody is denying that. Maybe he deserved even more than he got, but being that he was who he was, matters were more complicated. It's like a politician getting his picture taken with a hooker. Maybe there's a perfectly good explanation for why he happened to be there with the hooker, but people are just going to assume the worst.

Some headache cures:
- log IP tracks, publish them in PBF. For all the bitching about this thing in particular, I'm surprised this hasn't been thought of already. Probably would save you some headaches.

- imm exp averages for a given day, week, month, etc. Well, maybe Twist got a bunch of imm experience early on, but was he the *only* person to get rewarded that entire day and by that much? What if one imm was in a good mood and just handed it out like candy at their own discretion for a particular day? This is a good idea because imm experience early on offers a nice advantage in edge picking. Transparency ends speculation.

- standards for induction beyond the current scope. I've had characters make it into a cabal within a few hours of playing time too, but I've also had characters wait 50+ hours to get into a cabal. There *should* be some standards to negate either extreme. A character should be at least X hours old OR have existed for X number of real weeks. For cabal leaders and imms, it should be known how long someone is an applicant. The longer someone is an applicant for a given cabal without induction, the more priority they should be given to get inducted, or at least put on the right path if it's felt they're not ready.

  

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HOT Locked TopicI'm going to be flamed to high hell for this.... [View all] , Torak, Sat 15-Oct-11 01:55 AM
Reply Really, the most important question here is, Dallevian, 17-Oct-11 09:23 AM, #96
Reply He secretely steals the donations..., Onewingedangel, 17-Oct-11 12:40 PM, #120
Reply Personally, I don't care, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 17-Oct-11 08:48 AM #92
Reply Curious what you mean..., Twist, 17-Oct-11 10:27 AM, #105
     Reply Simple, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 17-Oct-11 10:41 AM, #108
          Reply It wouldn't do any good., Valkenar, 17-Oct-11 11:27 AM, #112
Reply The thing is, even if he was hooked up, who cares?, TheDude, 16-Oct-11 03:58 PM, #51
Reply A small subset of CF likes to ruin other people's fun., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 04:06 PM, #52
Reply Except..., robdarken_, 16-Oct-11 06:30 PM, #65
Reply RE: The thing is, even if he was hooked up, who cares?, ORB, 16-Oct-11 05:02 PM, #59
     Reply RE: The thing is, even if he was hooked up, who cares?, TMNS, 16-Oct-11 05:21 PM, #62
     Reply Again, how would this negatively affect you though?, TheDude, 16-Oct-11 07:15 PM, #67
     Reply Essentially:, Daevryn, 16-Oct-11 07:23 PM, #68
          Reply RE: Essentially:, Onewingedangel, 16-Oct-11 10:27 PM, #79
          Reply Actually, Twist plays his share of duds., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 10:37 PM, #82
               Reply RE: Actually, Twist plays his share of duds., Onewingedangel, 16-Oct-11 10:45 PM, #83
               Reply I was a big fan of Sirak btw., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 11:07 PM, #84
                    Reply RE: I was a big fan of Sirak btw., Onewingedangel, 16-Oct-11 11:11 PM, #85
                         Reply Ghrimriddor., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 11:34 PM, #86
                              Reply RE: Ghrimriddor., Onewingedangel, 16-Oct-11 11:47 PM, #87
               Reply RE: Actually, Twist plays his share of duds., Daevryn, 17-Oct-11 08:16 AM, #91
                    Reply That's why I think Balrahd is the best., TMNS, 17-Oct-11 09:55 AM, #99
                         Reply He's certainly up there (n/t), Daevryn, 17-Oct-11 10:06 AM, #101
                         Reply Jagaub/Balrahd/Mek/Twist/Intronan/Kasty. nt, Dallevian, 17-Oct-11 10:12 AM, #104
          Reply RE: Essentially:, ORB, 17-Oct-11 09:26 AM, #93
               Reply I just want to be clear..., Twist, 17-Oct-11 10:29 AM, #106
                    Reply RE: I just want to be clear..., ORB, 17-Oct-11 10:48 AM, #109
                         Reply You've a very interesting view, Twist, 17-Oct-11 11:07 AM, #110
                              Reply RE: You've a very interesting view, Daevryn, 17-Oct-11 11:26 AM, #111
                              Reply RE: You've a very interesting view, ORB, 17-Oct-11 11:48 AM, #113
                                   Reply Re: ROC, Zulghinlour, 17-Oct-11 11:49 AM, #114
                                        Reply RE: Re: ROC, ORB, 17-Oct-11 12:01 PM, #116
                                             Reply No, ROC isn't one con per one kill, Tsunami, 17-Oct-11 12:05 PM, #117
                                             Reply RE: Re: ROC, Daevryn, 17-Oct-11 12:13 PM, #118
                                             Reply Mummies have always been 2 deaths/con, Twist, 17-Oct-11 12:24 PM, #119
Reply Not flaming but..., Dallevian, 16-Oct-11 11:49 AM, #44
Reply Now I wish I'd given him that lich quest, Rayihn, 16-Oct-11 06:44 AM, #39
Reply Vocal minority at it again, I guess, MoetEtChandon, 16-Oct-11 10:34 AM, #43
Reply So wait..., TripHitNdip (Anonymous), 16-Oct-11 01:35 PM, #49
     Reply Funny thing about assumptions..., Twist, 16-Oct-11 02:46 PM, #50
     Reply RE: So wait..., Daevryn, 16-Oct-11 07:26 PM, #69
Reply RE: I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this...., Reksah, 15-Oct-11 11:16 PM, #30
Reply Seriously dude, don't listen to Torak., TMNS, 15-Oct-11 11:27 PM, #32
Reply Ok whoa whoa, #### off, Torak, 16-Oct-11 12:11 AM, #34
Reply RE: I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this...., ORB, 16-Oct-11 01:28 AM, #36
Reply RE: I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this...., Twist, 16-Oct-11 11:55 AM, #45
Reply As Ckath I'll try to remember what happened., Amberion, 16-Oct-11 04:09 PM, #53
Reply RE: I'm going to be flamed to high hell for this...., ORB, 16-Oct-11 04:55 PM, #56
     Reply Niheriva was Jalim. I have suspicions about the others..., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 05:15 PM, #60
     Reply The reason I chose those three mortals..., Twist, 16-Oct-11 05:39 PM, #63
          Reply RE: The reason I chose those three mortals..., Daevryn, 16-Oct-11 07:31 PM, #70
          Reply I thought Flaaayin and para were the same player., Dallevian, 16-Oct-11 09:23 PM, #77
          Reply Nah. Paralouit I'm pretty sure you're correct about., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 10:29 PM, #81
          Reply I'm with the Forsaken here., DurNominator, 17-Oct-11 12:21 AM, #88
               Reply No one fessed up to the Flaaayin., TMNS, 17-Oct-11 01:49 AM, #90
          Reply The were both Katholas(sp?) the ex-Imm, ORB, 17-Oct-11 09:20 AM, #95
               Reply RE: The were both Katholas(sp?) the ex-Imm, Daevryn, 17-Oct-11 09:35 AM, #97
                    Reply I always thought he was Paralouit., TMNS, 17-Oct-11 10:12 AM, #100
                         Reply RE: I always thought he was Paralouit., Daevryn, 17-Oct-11 10:08 AM, #102
          Reply Indeed Stevers is not an IMM and I heard he played Nihe..., Lhydia, 16-Oct-11 09:25 PM, #78
               Reply What the #### happened to you man?, TMNS, 16-Oct-11 10:28 PM, #80
                    Reply I'll take this as jalim fessing up Wiril. nt, DurNominator, 17-Oct-11 12:24 AM, #89
                    Reply Didn't he get married? : ) nt, Dallevian, 17-Oct-11 09:18 AM, #94
Reply Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's loving....., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 01:25 PM, #48
     Reply RE: Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's lovi..., ORB, 16-Oct-11 04:48 PM, #55
     Reply Hahahahahahahahahahahaha., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 04:56 PM, #57
          Reply I was actually thinking of lightmage n/t, Vortex Magus, 16-Oct-11 06:54 PM, #66
               Reply He's just the best writer on CF., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 07:44 PM, #73
                    Reply Give him a little more credit than that:, Daevryn, 16-Oct-11 08:12 PM, #75
                         Reply No doubt. He's just a really really good writer., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 08:43 PM, #76
     Reply RE: Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's lovi..., Daevryn, 16-Oct-11 07:35 PM, #71
          Reply RE: Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's lovi..., HammerSong, 16-Oct-11 08:12 PM, #74
          Reply RE: Of these, I only have a problem with Woldrun's lovi..., ORB, 17-Oct-11 10:09 AM, #103
          Reply I disagree., ORB, 17-Oct-11 10:39 AM, #107
Reply Hrm, fist-law, 16-Oct-11 01:56 AM, #38
     Reply If it makes you feel better..., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 04:24 PM, #54
Reply As a devil's advocate example..., Splntrd, 15-Oct-11 10:14 PM, #27
Reply I think there's some validity to your point, but..., Bell, 15-Oct-11 04:07 PM, #19
Reply Disagree, reasons inside., Explosion, 15-Oct-11 02:00 PM, #11
Reply I -do- think Tavlin got rewarded pretty damn hard prett..., Vortex Magus, 15-Oct-11 09:18 AM, #6
Reply RE: I -do- think Tavlin got rewarded pretty damn hard p..., Daevryn, 15-Oct-11 07:29 PM, #24
     Reply name a few?, Dallevian, 15-Oct-11 08:57 PM, #25
          Reply I know for a fact he had a battle scout thief..., TMNS, 15-Oct-11 09:14 PM, #26
               Reply was one, Dallevian, 15-Oct-11 11:11 PM, #29
                    Reply Yep. He copped to it too., TMNS, 15-Oct-11 11:26 PM, #31
                         Reply That was 4? 5? years ago?, Rayihn, 16-Oct-11 06:57 AM, #40
                              Reply Huh? I never did :), TMNS, 16-Oct-11 01:20 PM, #47
                              Reply I keep saying imms need to play more mortals., lasentia, 16-Oct-11 04:58 PM, #58
                                   Reply You just made Poppa E cream his pants., TMNS, 16-Oct-11 05:16 PM, #61
                                   Reply RE: I keep saying imms need to play more mortals., Daevryn, 16-Oct-11 07:38 PM, #72
Reply I don't mind IMM's getting rewards..., Lhydia, 15-Oct-11 05:35 AM, #2
Reply RE: I don't mind IMM's getting rewards..., ORB, 15-Oct-11 07:40 AM, #3
Reply RE: I don't mind IMM's getting rewards..., Daevryn, 15-Oct-11 07:26 PM, #23
Reply Didnt you cry the same way over the Battle leader?, Oldril, 15-Oct-11 01:36 PM, #10
Reply RE: I don't mind IMM's getting rewards..., Zulghinlour, 16-Oct-11 12:41 AM, #35
     Reply Nope. n/t, Lhydia, 16-Oct-11 08:23 AM, #42
          Reply He likes to be peed on is how I read it. nt, SuperIsisMan, 16-Oct-11 01:04 PM, #46
Reply My best character was "Elorik" in terms of rewards, Tsunami, 15-Oct-11 03:40 AM, #1
     Reply RE: My best character was , ORB, 15-Oct-11 07:43 AM, #4
          Reply There were 0 necros in scion at the time., lasentia, 15-Oct-11 09:10 AM, #5
          Reply FWIW, Nreykre, 15-Oct-11 09:36 AM, #7
          Reply RE: FWIW, ORB, 15-Oct-11 12:13 PM, #8
          Reply I hunted for quite a while before deleting Tavlin..., Twist, 15-Oct-11 02:18 PM, #12
          Reply Cursed kids!, Straklaw, 15-Oct-11 02:56 PM, #14
          Reply The next Sunwarden shall be a Minotaur. I have prophes..., Artificial, 15-Oct-11 03:19 PM, #17
          Reply I don't get the hate, Oldril, 15-Oct-11 11:06 PM, #28
               Reply For the first and only time, I totally agree with this., TMNS, 15-Oct-11 11:42 PM, #33
                    Reply RE: For the first and only time, I totally agree with t..., ORB, 16-Oct-11 01:32 AM, #37
                         Reply You blame Twist for the wrong things., lasentia, 16-Oct-11 07:27 AM, #41
          Reply RE: FWIW, Onewingedangel, 15-Oct-11 03:03 PM, #15
          Reply Blame Mharlndarn, Oldril, 15-Oct-11 01:31 PM, #9
          Reply RE: FWIW, HammerSong, 15-Oct-11 02:47 PM, #13
               Reply Heh. It was supposed to my lowbie Fort pkiller!, TMNS, 15-Oct-11 03:12 PM, #16
               Reply Keep at the globals, lasentia, 15-Oct-11 03:23 PM, #18
               Reply RE: Keep at the globals, The-me, 15-Oct-11 04:37 PM, #21
                    Reply Yeah! Those things were awesome! N/T, Amberion, 15-Oct-11 06:09 PM, #22
               Reply I just dont understand., Kalageadon, 15-Oct-11 04:27 PM, #20
                    Reply LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, SideStrider, 16-Oct-11 06:16 PM, #64
                         Reply RE: LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, SideStrider, 17-Oct-11 09:45 AM, #98
          Reply So?, Tsunami, 17-Oct-11 11:56 AM, #115
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