Adekar | Mon 28-Sep-09 02:30 AM |
Member since 01st Jul 2009
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#27779, "I think a post like this..."
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I think if you or someone else had started out the thread with a post like this, which ostensibly asks the same question as the original one but in a much better manner, it would have been much more likely to generate a good discussion. I mean, I would cut out your last sentence, but it's still a lot better than what seems like yet another long thread against a certain imm that probably donates more of her time than anyone else.
I can't really answer the question as well as the people actually in that position, but this is something that's fairly common in volunteer organizations, of which I do have a fair amount of experience. Essentially, since everything you're doing is for no extrinsic reward (I mean, you can't even write this on a resume) then you're really going to have to Want to do it. That want might be motivated by realizing it's necessary for the game (eg, dealing with immature people in RotD) or it might be because you really enjoy it. For myself, I can't really imagine wanting to play a long-term Fortress imm, because I don't think the cabal is that interesting (ironic, no?). I'd imagine that if I get to 53 and then were forced to make a Fortress imm character I'd probably lose the desire to play pretty quickly and log in less and less.
This isn't a staff in the traditional sense where Zulgh can send me a tell "Hey, we're going to need you to spend your next 1000 hours of free time playing a character you don't like. We lost some people and need to play catch up." and I have to do it if I want to keep my job. Just like playing a mortal in CF, there aren't any rewards for being a mortal, so if it's not fun in the long run, people aren't going to do it. I'm sure everyone was offered a chance to play Scion imm. Obviously nobody else jumped at the opportunity. If the most simplistic solution would have lead to even more burnout for an Imm, I don't think that would have been the most prudent choice.
And while we're talking about the message people are sending, I'm just going to write another little reminder that it would be in Everyone's best interest to try and mellow out a bit before posting on any forum. If only for my sake...reading the constant bitching really makes me more motivated to go out and have a few drinks after the game than come home and try to think of an evil version of the prayer beads quest.
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Why is one person runing four cabals?
[View all] , Kadsuane, Sat 26-Sep-09 10:36 PM
I guess I have to ask this...,
Rayihn,
28-Sep-09 06:42 AM, #50
Just a difference of opinion I guess,
Kadsuane,
28-Sep-09 07:09 AM, #51
This is why it's pointless to argue with you..,
Java,
28-Sep-09 12:21 PM, #55
RE: This is why it's pointless to argue with you..,
Kadsuane,
28-Sep-09 12:59 PM, #56
Exactly my point. Try responding to the points I made i...,
Java,
28-Sep-09 01:12 PM, #57
RE: Exactly my point. Try responding to the points I ma...,
Kadsuane,
28-Sep-09 01:45 PM, #58
The issue is you keep presenting your idea of problems,...,
Java,
28-Sep-09 02:04 PM, #60
I'm just not your kind of nice.,
Kadsuane,
28-Sep-09 02:07 PM, #62
Basically.,
Java,
28-Sep-09 02:08 PM, #63
I did.,
Kadsuane,
28-Sep-09 02:11 PM, #64
What thread is that?,
Java,
28-Sep-09 02:15 PM, #67
RE: What thread is that?,
_Magus_,
28-Sep-09 02:43 PM, #69
RE: What thread is that?,
Kadsuane,
28-Sep-09 06:18 PM, #71
He has a good point.,
blackbird,
28-Sep-09 02:12 PM, #66
Seemed pretty clear to me,
Mekantos,
28-Sep-09 02:04 PM, #59
Then I ask you the same question I asked him.,
Java,
28-Sep-09 02:07 PM, #61
Suggestions,
SuperIsisMan,
28-Sep-09 03:42 PM, #70
Pretty much,
Mekantos,
28-Sep-09 08:13 PM, #72
However:,
Daevryn,
28-Sep-09 09:16 PM, #73
RE: However:,
Kadsuane,
29-Sep-09 04:36 AM, #74
For me, in general,
Rayihn,
29-Sep-09 06:30 AM, #75
RE: For me, in general,
Kadsuane,
29-Sep-09 09:40 AM, #77
RE: However:,
Daevryn,
29-Sep-09 07:42 AM, #76
RE: I guess I have to ask this...,
Isildur,
28-Sep-09 08:49 AM, #53
Wait...wait...,
_Magus_,
26-Sep-09 10:27 PM, #4
I thought it was just 3.. nt,
Java,
26-Sep-09 09:18 PM, #1
And the answer is, because no one else wants to (n/t),
Daevryn,
26-Sep-09 09:51 PM, #2
No one else wants to because...,
wareagle,
26-Sep-09 10:19 PM, #7
Oh.,
wareagle,
26-Sep-09 10:20 PM, #3
That's entirely a mortal leadership based thing.,
Java,
26-Sep-09 10:29 PM, #5
RE: No one else wants to because...,
Daevryn,
26-Sep-09 10:35 PM, #6
I actually think that process is useful,
Yean,
27-Sep-09 03:01 AM, #8
And I actually think you are wrong,
Dwoggurd,
27-Sep-09 03:07 AM, #9
I'm sorry but there's no right or wrong,
Yean,
27-Sep-09 04:17 AM, #10
Eh,
Dwoggurd,
27-Sep-09 06:35 AM, #11
Enforced/Enhanced Roleplay.,
Grobbak,
27-Sep-09 07:28 AM, #13
Re,
Dwoggurd,
27-Sep-09 08:02 AM, #14
RE: Re,
Isildur,
27-Sep-09 08:30 AM, #18
I might care what you think if you played.,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 09:57 AM, #21
Suggestion,
Dwoggurd,
27-Sep-09 10:17 AM, #26
RE: Suggestion,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 01:08 PM, #32
I beg to differ,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
27-Sep-09 08:41 PM, #39
Thing is,
Dwoggurd,
27-Sep-09 09:45 PM, #41
RE: Thing is,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 11:09 PM, #45
More and Less Agree,
Rayihn,
27-Sep-09 07:01 AM, #12
So you're saying....,
Dwoggurd,
27-Sep-09 08:04 AM, #15
You are preaching to the wrong choir,
CharlieWaffles,
27-Sep-09 08:08 AM, #16
RE: So you're saying....,
Isildur,
27-Sep-09 08:22 AM, #17
Then why are you setting your girl up to fail?,
Kadsuane,
27-Sep-09 09:37 AM, #19
I count three (n/t),
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 09:57 AM, #20
RE: I count three (n/t),
Kadsuane,
27-Sep-09 10:02 AM, #23
Well.. how many is she running on her own?,
Java,
27-Sep-09 11:23 AM, #29
Atleast one.,
Kadsuane,
27-Sep-09 03:26 PM, #35
Also:,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 09:59 AM, #22
Actually.,
Kadsuane,
27-Sep-09 10:07 AM, #24
Haha, cool post, esp 1) n/t,
Dervish,
27-Sep-09 10:22 AM, #27
RE: Actually.,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 01:07 PM, #31
Fresh out of points.. you win.,
Kadsuane,
27-Sep-09 01:45 PM, #33
It's like this:,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 08:36 PM, #38
Hah,
Dwoggurd,
27-Sep-09 10:11 AM, #25
No! n/t,
Dervish,
27-Sep-09 10:23 AM, #28
How boring.,
DurNominator,
27-Sep-09 02:17 PM, #34
RE: Also:,
Xanthrailles,
27-Sep-09 11:42 AM, #30
honestly,
Jhyrbian,
27-Sep-09 07:33 PM, #36
RE: honestly,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 08:33 PM, #37
nep, think about what you just wrote,
Jhyrbian,
27-Sep-09 11:03 PM, #42
RE: nep, think about what you just wrote,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-09 11:08 PM, #44
Let's be honest some more,
Jhyrbian,
27-Sep-09 11:15 PM, #46
RE: Let's be honest some more,
Daevryn,
28-Sep-09 07:39 AM, #52
Some people call it arrogant,
Jhyrbian,
28-Sep-09 02:12 PM, #65
Did you just call yourself an asshole? nt,
Java,
28-Sep-09 02:16 PM, #68
RE: nep, think about what you just wrote,
Adekar,
27-Sep-09 11:36 PM, #47
maybe it's me,
Jhyrbian,
28-Sep-09 12:52 AM, #48
I think a post like this...,
Adekar,
28-Sep-09 02:30 AM #49
RE: I think a post like this...,
thendrell,
28-Sep-09 09:55 AM, #54
Broken Windows,
wrathpuppet,
27-Sep-09 08:59 PM, #40
i like mcdonalds too. gg (nt),
Jhyrbian,
27-Sep-09 11:01 PM, #43
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