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IsildurTue 24-Feb-09 12:01 PM
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#23895, "RE: Have you crunched the numbers?"


          

>Squires & Acolytes are the equivalent of Imperial Citizens

Note: I forget how the tiers are counted, so I'm going to call bloodoaths Tier0 and count up from there.

I'd compare Squires and Acolytes to Tier1 or Tier2 sect members, and Marans to Tier3. This in terms of difficulty, not "strength of powers".

For the Squire, the difficulty is actually getting into the cabal. Doing interviews, finding the leader online, etc. For the sect member, the difficulty is just taking the time to gather all that gold.

For the Maran, the difficulty is putting in the "squire time" and getting noticed by Baer. For the sect member, the difficulty is convincing your sect leader you're worthy of one of his limited Tier3 slots. Also, catching your sect leader (or the Emperor) online so you can actually be promoted.

If we compare Squires to Tier1 or Tier2 sect members, then the gap in powers isn't so bad. Same thing for Maran vs. Tier3.

We should also consider characters in Empire that are "blocked" by someone above them? If there's a long-lived sect leader above me, then my Elite guy could spend 200-300 hours stuck at Elite. That seems infinitely worse than having to wait ~70 hours as a squire before getting Maran.

  

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HOT TopicMaran [View all] , Tac, Mon 23-Feb-09 02:07 PM
Reply RE: Maran, Daevryn, 23-Feb-09 08:43 PM, #21
Reply Because you totally didn't bring that on yourself. nt, Scrimbul, 23-Feb-09 09:44 PM, #22
Reply It's true., Daevryn, 23-Feb-09 10:19 PM, #23
     Reply RE: It's true., Dark Priest, 24-Feb-09 12:18 PM, #35
Reply Next time I have the time...., Tac, 24-Feb-09 09:23 AM, #27
Reply RE: Next time I have the time...., Isildur, 24-Feb-09 10:04 AM, #28
     Reply that's exactly what I was thinking., Aodh, 24-Feb-09 10:06 AM, #29
     Reply So in a world where people have less time on their hand..., Scrimbul, 24-Feb-09 12:25 PM, #36
          Reply This whole thread is silly, Baerinika, 24-Feb-09 12:38 PM, #38
          Reply Please allow for the fact, incognito, 24-Feb-09 01:54 PM, #40
               Reply More importantly, incognito, 24-Feb-09 01:56 PM, #41
               Reply I hate ap's and necros nt, Baerinika, 24-Feb-09 02:00 PM, #43
               Reply RE: Please allow for the fact, Baerinika, 24-Feb-09 01:59 PM, #42
                    Reply RE: Please allow for the fact, Isildur, 24-Feb-09 02:42 PM, #44
                    Reply I think I do that already, Baerinika, 24-Feb-09 02:59 PM, #45
                    Reply Arguing aside, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 24-Feb-09 04:47 PM, #48
                         Reply RE: Arguing aside, Isildur, 24-Feb-09 05:09 PM, #49
                         Reply Members, Baerinika, 24-Feb-09 05:16 PM, #52
                              Reply RE: Members, Sarien, 25-Feb-09 11:34 AM, #67
                         Reply Evil Outlanders and picking off squires, Twist, 24-Feb-09 05:12 PM, #51
                         Reply Problem with player promotions:, Aodh, 24-Feb-09 05:24 PM, #53
                         Reply because they have an ulterior motive?, incognito, 24-Feb-09 05:27 PM, #55
                              Reply RE: because they have an ulterior motive?, Zulghinlour, 24-Feb-09 06:49 PM, #60
                    Reply If you've seen the Fortress members command..., Zulghinlour, 24-Feb-09 03:17 PM, #46
                    Reply That's a very good point, incognito, 24-Feb-09 05:26 PM, #54
          Reply RE: So in a world where people have less time on their ..., Isildur, 24-Feb-09 12:43 PM, #39
          Reply You are wasting the effort Isildur put into compiling t..., Adhelard, 24-Feb-09 03:24 PM, #47
               Reply RE: You are wasting the effort Isildur put into compili..., Isildur, 24-Feb-09 05:10 PM, #50
                    Reply You're lucky I'm a sucker for statistics. txt, Isildur, 24-Feb-09 06:46 PM, #59
                         Reply I think we're all lucky, Adhelard, 24-Feb-09 07:47 PM, #65
                              Reply RE: I think we're all lucky, Isildur, 24-Feb-09 08:31 PM, #66
Reply =P, Lhydia, 24-Feb-09 07:05 PM, #62
Reply Well... Then you should try Scion as it is., Amberion, 23-Feb-09 06:21 PM, #14
Reply RE: Well... Then you should try Scion as it is., Isildur, 23-Feb-09 06:27 PM, #17
Reply Battle sucks sometimes...., Tac, 23-Feb-09 06:31 PM, #19
Reply Well..., Vortex Magus, 24-Feb-09 10:57 AM, #31
Reply That would be a chancellor's decision, not immortal one, Tac, 23-Feb-09 06:28 PM, #18
     Reply Agreed, as Cedek I got in after 2 easy interveiws...., Amberion, 23-Feb-09 07:52 PM, #20
Reply I think it sort of stems from the origination of the ca..., Theerkla, 23-Feb-09 06:04 PM, #12
Reply RE: Maran, Isildur, 23-Feb-09 02:52 PM, #3
Reply Also consider, Baerinika, 23-Feb-09 02:56 PM, #4
Reply RE: Also consider, Isildur, 23-Feb-09 03:49 PM, #5
Reply I was intrigued, Mekantos, 23-Feb-09 04:39 PM, #8
Reply Consider this from my side, then., Dallevian, 23-Feb-09 05:35 PM, #10
Reply RE: Consider this from my side, then., Isildur, 23-Feb-09 06:01 PM, #11
Reply I'm lazy...., Tac, 23-Feb-09 06:27 PM, #16
Reply From Endalion's PBF, DurNominator, 23-Feb-09 05:16 PM, #9
Reply RE: Maran, Adhelard, 23-Feb-09 03:58 PM, #6
     Reply RE: Maran, Isildur, 23-Feb-09 04:12 PM, #7
Reply Speaking only for myself, not Baerinika..., Twist, 23-Feb-09 02:23 PM, #2
Reply Well...., Tac, 23-Feb-09 06:23 PM, #15
Reply So, Maraning is just PK-based?, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 24-Feb-09 08:45 AM, #24
     Reply RE: So, Maraning is just PK-based?, Daevryn, 24-Feb-09 08:53 AM, #26
Reply You won't be playing Empire either then..., Zulghinlour, 23-Feb-09 02:20 PM, #1
     Reply Getting Maran = Becoming Sect Leader?, Tac, 23-Feb-09 06:15 PM, #13
     Reply Have you crunched the numbers?, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 24-Feb-09 08:50 AM, #25
     Reply RE: Have you crunched the numbers?, Zulghinlour, 24-Feb-09 11:09 AM, #32
          Reply RE: Have you crunched the numbers?, Isildur, 24-Feb-09 12:01 PM #34
               Reply Do you want to take a stab at time to Elite?, Adhelard, 24-Feb-09 12:38 PM, #37
                    Reply RE: Do you want to take a stab at time to Elite?, Isildur, 24-Feb-09 06:53 PM, #61
     Reply I don't know about you., Vortex Magus, 24-Feb-09 10:51 AM, #30
          Reply RE: I don't know about you., Zulghinlour, 24-Feb-09 11:11 AM, #33
          Reply re: backstabbing, Aodh, 24-Feb-09 05:37 PM, #56
               Reply RE: re: backstabbing, Daevryn, 24-Feb-09 06:28 PM, #57
               Reply RE: re: backstabbing, Isildur, 24-Feb-09 07:22 PM, #63
               Reply Backstabbing is only part of it, Twist, 24-Feb-09 07:46 PM, #64
          Reply RE: I don't know about you., Daevryn, 24-Feb-09 06:32 PM, #58
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