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_Magus_Mon 07-Apr-08 01:42 PM
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#20999, "I'm going to assume you've fought dagger specs"


          

You can gear for str/dex very, very easily. Especially at hero. I'll agree this can be a much more difficult task at level 20-40.

But if you're a class without damage reduction, your largest concern isn't going to be killing a dagger spec or worrying about stat loss. It's going to be bloos loss. And I am speaking from the dagger spec side of things (recently played Vyborny, and played Noelani and Yvalthras in the past). Blood loss won me a lot of fights I probably shouldn't have. The only characters that really stood no chance against me as a dagger specialist, are Orcs and non-berserker warriors who wielded heavy weapons (axe, mace, polearm mostly), and thieves. All mages have damage reduction to deal with blood loss and don't have to worry as much about stat loss as melee classes. Paladins and shamans can heal themselves and survive blood loss, not to mention sanctuary. Rangers can use staves and scrolls (for the most part) and have herbs, so they don't have to worry as much about blood loss.

Look at any dagger specialist PBF. The majority of their wins are going to be against warriors. Why? Blood loss.

I don't buy into the stat loss argument.

Also, there was a cloud giant sword spec who came and killed Vyborny in the Forbidden Forest for some reason. I never even touched him, and this was at level 25. He bashed me two times and I was dead. Dagger spec's haven't really gained a lot in the low levels either.

  

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HOT TopicDagger New Warrior Gold Standard [View all] , Scrimbul, Mon 07-Apr-08 10:32 AM
Reply Dagger Not Warrior Gold Standard, Valguarnera, 07-Apr-08 09:03 PM, #16
Reply RE: Dagger Not Warrior Gold Standard, TJHuron, 07-Apr-08 09:36 PM, #18
Reply You gotta love numbers, Amortis, 07-Apr-08 11:09 PM, #21
Reply Can you check for a while back,,,?, Mekantos, 08-Apr-08 12:27 AM, #23
Reply RE: Dagger Not Warrior Gold Standard, Isildur, 08-Apr-08 10:25 AM, #25
Reply It's more player based than build based., Lyristeon, 08-Apr-08 11:51 PM, #31
     Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Isildur, 09-Apr-08 12:53 AM, #32
     Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Lyristeon, 09-Apr-08 06:03 AM, #34
     Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Eskelian, 10-Apr-08 10:03 PM, #42
     Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Twist, 09-Apr-08 09:40 AM, #35
          Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Isildur, 09-Apr-08 10:11 AM, #36
          Reply No kidding, Twist, 09-Apr-08 01:22 PM, #38
          Reply I gotta agree on the evading part..., TheLastMohican, 09-Apr-08 12:58 PM, #37
     Reply Xin didn't use potions, did he?, incognito, 09-Apr-08 03:13 AM, #33
     Reply You are making me defensive., Quixotic, 10-Apr-08 03:52 PM, #40
          Reply And..., Twist, 10-Apr-08 09:06 PM, #41
Reply Well that answers my implied question. nt, Scrimbul, 09-Apr-08 11:39 PM, #39
Reply I have to agree that something doesn't feel balanced, bobbyp, 07-Apr-08 04:36 PM, #11
Reply I don't think that, Nivek1, 07-Apr-08 04:53 PM, #13
     Reply I'm talking about melee hits, bobbyp, 07-Apr-08 04:59 PM, #14
          Reply Level has no effect on melee hits in PvP fights nt, Tac, 08-Apr-08 10:29 AM, #26
          Reply Right., Daevryn, 08-Apr-08 07:39 PM, #27
Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, ORB, 07-Apr-08 03:01 PM, #8
Reply There needs to be some more potent and varied DEX nukes, Mekantos, 07-Apr-08 04:23 PM, #9
     Reply I'm a huge fan..., _Magus_, 07-Apr-08 04:36 PM, #10
     Reply rigomortis, bobbyp, 07-Apr-08 04:39 PM, #12
     Reply This is about the only thing I'd touch., Valguarnera, 07-Apr-08 09:19 PM, #17
          Reply Hah, Mekantos, 08-Apr-08 12:23 AM, #22
               Reply Here's some ideas on what I envisioned..., GinGa, 08-Apr-08 07:43 AM, #24
Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, TJHuron, 07-Apr-08 02:58 PM, #7
Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, Daevryn, 08-Apr-08 07:52 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, TJHuron, 08-Apr-08 09:43 PM, #30
Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, _Magus_, 07-Apr-08 11:47 AM, #1
     Reply We're saying the same thing but disagreeing on minor po..., Scrimbul, 07-Apr-08 12:16 PM, #2
     Reply RE: We're saying the same thing but disagreeing on mino..., _Magus_, 07-Apr-08 01:47 PM, #5
          Reply tactical discussion, Quixotic, 07-Apr-08 05:48 PM, #15
          Reply RE: We're saying the same thing but disagreeing on mino..., Eskelian, 07-Apr-08 09:55 PM, #20
     Reply You are so transparent...and here I was almost liking y..., TheLastMohican, 07-Apr-08 01:22 PM, #3
     Reply I'm going to assume you've fought dagger specs, _Magus_, 07-Apr-08 01:42 PM #4
          Reply RE: I'm going to assume you've fought dagger specs, Eskelian, 07-Apr-08 09:47 PM, #19
          Reply RE: I'm going to assume you've fought dagger specs, Daevryn, 08-Apr-08 08:00 PM, #29
     Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, Mekantos, 07-Apr-08 02:11 PM, #6
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