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ScrimbulMon 07-Apr-08 12:10 PM
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#20997, "We're saying the same thing but disagreeing on minor points."
Edited on Mon 07-Apr-08 12:16 PM

  

          

Hurl, and artery both make rather nice one round openers.

Furthermore artery does a ####load of damage + str loss + bleeding all in one move.

So yes, dagger specs have rather nice openers (hamstring included)... and if they want to backstab like a thief all they have to do is figure out a way to get the opponent to sleep and then use underhand. I haven't seen this tactic used much (likely because the multiple underhand hits are so unreliable it's easier just to use artery or hamstring or hurl)

but the bleeding and poison bit is spot on as well and coupled with concealed is what allows the dagger's "dps" to match up to what axe and mace used to be and exceed it now.

In comparison, an assassin's openers are strangle and blindness dust. They also have poison darts which is a hell of alot more limited than most dagger strategies.

  

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HOT TopicDagger New Warrior Gold Standard [View all] , Scrimbul, Mon 07-Apr-08 10:32 AM
Reply Dagger Not Warrior Gold Standard, Valguarnera, 07-Apr-08 09:03 PM, #16
Reply RE: Dagger Not Warrior Gold Standard, TJHuron, 07-Apr-08 09:36 PM, #18
Reply You gotta love numbers, Amortis, 07-Apr-08 11:09 PM, #21
Reply Can you check for a while back,,,?, Mekantos, 08-Apr-08 12:27 AM, #23
Reply RE: Dagger Not Warrior Gold Standard, Isildur, 08-Apr-08 10:25 AM, #25
Reply It's more player based than build based., Lyristeon, 08-Apr-08 11:51 PM, #31
     Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Isildur, 09-Apr-08 12:53 AM, #32
     Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Lyristeon, 09-Apr-08 06:03 AM, #34
     Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Eskelian, 10-Apr-08 10:03 PM, #42
     Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Twist, 09-Apr-08 09:40 AM, #35
          Reply RE: It's more player based than build based., Isildur, 09-Apr-08 10:11 AM, #36
          Reply No kidding, Twist, 09-Apr-08 01:22 PM, #38
          Reply I gotta agree on the evading part..., TheLastMohican, 09-Apr-08 12:58 PM, #37
     Reply Xin didn't use potions, did he?, incognito, 09-Apr-08 03:13 AM, #33
     Reply You are making me defensive., Quixotic, 10-Apr-08 03:52 PM, #40
          Reply And..., Twist, 10-Apr-08 09:06 PM, #41
Reply Well that answers my implied question. nt, Scrimbul, 09-Apr-08 11:39 PM, #39
Reply I have to agree that something doesn't feel balanced, bobbyp, 07-Apr-08 04:36 PM, #11
Reply I don't think that, Nivek1, 07-Apr-08 04:53 PM, #13
     Reply I'm talking about melee hits, bobbyp, 07-Apr-08 04:59 PM, #14
          Reply Level has no effect on melee hits in PvP fights nt, Tac, 08-Apr-08 10:29 AM, #26
          Reply Right., Daevryn, 08-Apr-08 07:39 PM, #27
Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, ORB, 07-Apr-08 03:01 PM, #8
Reply There needs to be some more potent and varied DEX nukes, Mekantos, 07-Apr-08 04:23 PM, #9
     Reply I'm a huge fan..., _Magus_, 07-Apr-08 04:36 PM, #10
     Reply rigomortis, bobbyp, 07-Apr-08 04:39 PM, #12
     Reply This is about the only thing I'd touch., Valguarnera, 07-Apr-08 09:19 PM, #17
          Reply Hah, Mekantos, 08-Apr-08 12:23 AM, #22
               Reply Here's some ideas on what I envisioned..., GinGa, 08-Apr-08 07:43 AM, #24
Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, TJHuron, 07-Apr-08 02:58 PM, #7
Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, Daevryn, 08-Apr-08 07:52 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, TJHuron, 08-Apr-08 09:43 PM, #30
Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, _Magus_, 07-Apr-08 11:47 AM, #1
     Reply We're saying the same thing but disagreeing on minor po..., Scrimbul, 07-Apr-08 12:16 PM #2
     Reply RE: We're saying the same thing but disagreeing on mino..., _Magus_, 07-Apr-08 01:47 PM, #5
          Reply tactical discussion, Quixotic, 07-Apr-08 05:48 PM, #15
          Reply RE: We're saying the same thing but disagreeing on mino..., Eskelian, 07-Apr-08 09:55 PM, #20
     Reply You are so transparent...and here I was almost liking y..., TheLastMohican, 07-Apr-08 01:22 PM, #3
     Reply I'm going to assume you've fought dagger specs, _Magus_, 07-Apr-08 01:42 PM, #4
          Reply RE: I'm going to assume you've fought dagger specs, Eskelian, 07-Apr-08 09:47 PM, #19
          Reply RE: I'm going to assume you've fought dagger specs, Daevryn, 08-Apr-08 08:00 PM, #29
     Reply RE: Dagger New Warrior Gold Standard, Mekantos, 07-Apr-08 02:11 PM, #6
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