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_Magus_Sat 20-Oct-07 12:00 PM
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#19571, "RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ideas"


          

>>one, either a mage class is balanced without a/b/s, then
>>because a/b/s is so much of an insane boost to dam redux, any
>>mage class balanced without it is overpowered with it. Or...a
>>mage class is balanced for a/b/s. Then, by the same token,
>>they are way way underpowered without it.

>Or, they're balanced to have it sometimes, and not have it sometimes.

Huh? If A/S/B are readily available to a character, they are going to use them in pretty much every fight they get into. The only fights I can think of where they wouldn't, would be surprise attacks from characters they cannot see coming.

I see it pretty black and white, too. You either have A/S/B or you don't. When you have it, you're superbly survivable, even under some seriously bad odds. Or you don't have it, and you pretty much don't stand a chance. I can't remember a recent fight I've been in with a/s/b and felt like I couldn't win, or at the very least, get away alive. Then I've been on the flip side of that coin, and felt, why even bother fighting this mage when I'm hitting them with an offense form that normally does DEMISH for regular hits, but its now doing mauls/decimates?

Do you think the current system is perfect or something? Did you design it and just don't want to admit it has its (serious) flaws?

  

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HOT Locked TopicSo who besides me thinks game balance is a laughable jo... [View all] , trewyn, Fri 19-Oct-07 04:50 PM
Reply Occams Razor says this thread is done, Zulghinlour, 21-Oct-07 08:49 PM, #49
Reply RE: So who besides me thinks game balance is a laughabl..., DurNominator, 21-Oct-07 01:08 PM, #38
Reply Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong., Lyristeon, 21-Oct-07 07:24 AM, #30
Reply Yeah but, geez..., Theerkla, 21-Oct-07 08:14 AM, #34
Reply RE: Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong..., trewyn, 21-Oct-07 01:04 PM, #37
Reply RE: Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong..., Lyristeon, 21-Oct-07 04:23 PM, #43
Reply Grapevine says Q is nep aka overpowered, nerf plz nt, snowlauncher, 21-Oct-07 05:10 PM, #46
     Reply RE: Grapevine says Q is nep aka overpowered, nerf plz n..., Lyristeon, 21-Oct-07 06:15 PM, #47
Reply RE: Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong..., Daevryn, 21-Oct-07 04:28 PM, #45
Reply RE: Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong..., Valguarnera, 21-Oct-07 07:03 PM, #48
Reply And similar stats for top magi are? nt, DurNominator, 21-Oct-07 01:09 PM, #39
     Reply RE: And similar stats for top magi are? nt, Lyristeon, 21-Oct-07 04:06 PM, #42
Reply Super prepped., Cerunnir, 20-Oct-07 10:41 AM, #15
Reply Their preps are generally harder to get than sleeks, Dervish, 21-Oct-07 03:48 AM, #28
Reply Not I!, Valguarnera, 20-Oct-07 10:17 AM, #13
Reply RE: Not I!, Isildur, 20-Oct-07 03:14 PM, #17
     Reply Present characters only., Valguarnera, 20-Oct-07 03:25 PM, #18
          Reply Do you have an all-time deadliest list?, Lightmage, 21-Oct-07 03:07 PM, #40
Reply this is strange, and what I think are some good ideas, Odrirg, 20-Oct-07 10:03 AM, #12
Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 10:20 AM, #14
     Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., _Magus_, 20-Oct-07 12:00 PM #16
     Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 11:50 PM, #23
     Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., Zulghinlour, 21-Oct-07 12:03 AM, #26
     Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., Odrirg, 20-Oct-07 04:34 PM, #19
          Reply You're thinking about this in a very limited fashion, A2, 20-Oct-07 06:17 PM, #20
               Reply Yeah, on that note:, Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 11:53 PM, #24
Reply I should note, incognito, 20-Oct-07 09:16 AM, #9
Reply RE: So who besides me thinks game balance is a laughabl..., incognito, 20-Oct-07 09:04 AM, #8
Reply Short version:, Daevryn, 19-Oct-07 10:38 PM, #4
Reply I dunno..., trewyn, 19-Oct-07 10:55 PM, #6
Reply Not that I agree with the OP, Theerkla, 20-Oct-07 09:53 AM, #10
     Reply RE: Not that I agree with the OP, Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 10:01 AM, #11
     Reply Yeah, but with mael + META BOOSTED EVADE..., Xenoroyal, 20-Oct-07 10:30 PM, #21
          Reply RE: Yeah, but with mael + META BOOSTED EVADE..., Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 11:45 PM, #22
               Reply RE: Yeah, but with mael + META BOOSTED EVADE..., Xenoroyal, 21-Oct-07 01:39 AM, #27
               Reply RE: Yeah, but with mael + META BOOSTED EVADE..., Valguarnera, 21-Oct-07 07:36 AM, #31
                    Reply Is this from someone that looked at and knows the code?, Theerkla, 21-Oct-07 08:10 AM, #33
                         Reply Yes., Sebeok, 21-Oct-07 10:07 AM, #35
                              Reply You know, that really was an honest question, Theerkla, 21-Oct-07 11:08 AM, #36
                                   Reply Hey Mr. Black and White, trewyn, 21-Oct-07 03:44 PM, #41
                                        Reply RE: Hey Mr. Black and White, Daevryn, 21-Oct-07 04:25 PM, #44
               Reply Lvl difference vs. neuro save.., TheDude, 21-Oct-07 04:00 AM, #29
                    Reply RE: Lvl difference vs. neuro save.., Valguarnera, 21-Oct-07 07:40 AM, #32
     Reply On this vein from what I've seen as both the muter and ..., Drag0nSt0rm, 20-Oct-07 11:54 PM, #25
Reply As someone who plays a lot of different classes, A2, 19-Oct-07 06:41 PM, #2
Reply RE: As someone who plays a lot of different classes, Daevryn, 19-Oct-07 10:30 PM, #3
Reply I'm gonna go ahead and bite on this one., Kadsuane, 19-Oct-07 05:55 PM, #1
     Reply RE: I'm gonna go ahead and bite on this one., trewyn, 19-Oct-07 10:46 PM, #5
          Reply RE: I'm gonna go ahead and bite on this one., Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 12:05 AM, #7
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