>However now you have a class (already powered nicely, and
>sometimes over powered) with a lot of command denial.

I don't know how you could call that a lot of command denial. For example, linkdead healer with the eagle staff is actually significantly more command denial.

>I
>already take massacres - mangles through stoneskin and
>protection from align from a low lag / low level commune.
>I've already tangled with defiance and barely came out alive
>fully prepared. Now why would I bother to defend or retrieve
>against two of them + virtues?

I swear I've seen logs of Granaak whipping Firunsheim and Wungar when they had it. Was I hallucinating?

>I mean let us face it, Maran + Battle have very few enemies
>and it has been that way for awhile now.

Empire's still bigger than both of those cabals put together. There was about a 1-2 week period there where Scion, a cabal that's supposed to be small and elite, was bigger than Fort.