robdarken_ | Mon 25-Apr-16 08:39 AM |
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#63464, "I think he believed he wasn't breaking the rules."
Edited on Mon 25-Apr-16 08:41 AM
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An Immortal tells you 'The helpfile says it's at my discretion. You were slain just this morning for the exact same thing. Why you thought it would be a good idea to turn to the same behavior again is beyond me.' Chances are he didn't. I personally believe him because a self-interested person wouldn't want to waste the time to make another character just to have the same punishment. He can't be too short fused if he was okay with the first slay like he says. He says he was sitting at the keyboard the whole time and occasionally reading helpfiles, probably with the sole intent of establishing that he is at the keyboard to the benefit of the imm (and therefore himself), which seems to jive with the rules excerpt about botting: Generally speaking, if you the player are still in attendance to respond appropriately to any incoming stimuli for your character, you're not breaking any rules. You the player always needs to be in control of the character. I think he does meet that criteria. Especially since he is apparently ESL and may have had trouble understanding whatever was first said to him about it, can you see why he would think it's still okay? What constitutes legal use of triggers and illegal use of a bot is at the discretion of the immortal staff, so please be aware that we may ask you to stop if we deem what you are doing inappropriate. Discretion is generally a good thing because you can't write an all-encompassing rule set and it tends to help enforce the spirit of the rules rather than just the letter. However, it also says you may be asked to stop if an imm determines that what you are doing is wrong. But for him the first line of defense seems to have been a slay instead of a warning, that may also be open to discretion but the other way of doing it is probably much better. I get how this case is blurry since he was actually cheating before. And I get if someone doesn't like seeing it, I don't like edge farmers either, especially ones that I think are AFK, it bothers me for some reason and I tend to summon and plague stuff next to them if I can (because if they're playing they'll move). I'm actually glad he got slain the first time, I think that without a warning was appropriate, but so did he apparently. But I think the guy might not have cared much if he weren't mocked for trying to get clarity on what rules he was still breaking. pray I sit at the keyboard for two hours. An Immortal tells you 'Stop farming observation experience with triggers.' An Immortal tells you 'The helpfile says it's at my discretion. You were slain just this morning for the exact same thing. Why you thought it would be a good idea to turn to the same behavior again is beyond me.' He took two hours to repeat the process correctly according to the helpfile, got slayed, and then mocked for saying something about it. With regard to gear passing, no, I wouldn't defend him for that. But I would defend him for something that isn't wrong.
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It looks like you are actually trying to kill this game...
[View all] , robdarken_, Wed 13-Apr-16 07:41 AM
I normally wouldn't agree with this type of thing...,
Bubthegreat,
21-Apr-16 03:03 AM, #55
Huh? What? Huh?,
TMNS,
21-Apr-16 04:18 AM, #56
That seemed a tad harsh. nt,
Saagkri,
21-Apr-16 08:43 AM, #57
It might have been, was 6am here so I was fighting slee...,
TMNS,
21-Apr-16 07:54 PM, #60
Haha. Replied under the wrong post. I agree with Sam's ...,
jalbrin,
21-Apr-16 02:41 PM, #58
RE: Huh? What? Huh?,
Bubthegreat,
22-Apr-16 02:35 AM, #61
RE: I normally wouldn't agree with this type of thing.....,
Umiron,
21-Apr-16 07:14 PM, #59
RE: I normally wouldn't agree with this type of thing.....,
Bubthegreat,
22-Apr-16 02:46 AM, #62
Aaaaand I'm back to the not okay with it.,
Bubthegreat,
25-Apr-16 03:52 AM, #63
I still do it manually.,
Murphy,
25-Apr-16 04:50 AM, #64
This particular instance is just silly to try and white...,
Destuvius,
25-Apr-16 05:45 AM, #65
I think he believed he wasn't breaking the rules.,
robdarken_,
25-Apr-16 08:41 AM #67
On that note, thread locked due to clutter.,
Jormyr,
25-Apr-16 09:44 PM, #72
RE: Aaaaand I'm back to the not okay with it.,
robdarken_,
25-Apr-16 09:06 AM, #68
relax man,
laxman,
25-Apr-16 11:33 AM, #69
The docks aren'the even that bad to do...,
Onewingedangel,
25-Apr-16 12:39 PM, #70
Let me get this straight,
TJHuron,
25-Apr-16 04:18 PM, #71
My own personal CF odyssey of the last 2 decades,
laxman,
19-Apr-16 10:19 PM, #53
I'm still mad I was wasting my time partying in HS inst...,
TMNS,
20-Apr-16 12:08 AM, #54
My personal comments,
Jormyr,
13-Apr-16 12:44 AM, #39
Whatever Jorm, you promised us you'd publish your taxes...,
Raltevio,
13-Apr-16 02:47 AM, #41
RE: Whatever Jorm, you promised us you'd publish your t...,
robdarken_,
13-Apr-16 07:04 AM, #46
RE: My personal comments,
robdarken_,
13-Apr-16 07:09 AM, #45
RE: My personal comments,
Jormyr,
13-Apr-16 02:16 PM, #47
I started writing a long post, but what it amounted to ...,
Raltevio,
12-Apr-16 03:24 AM, #19
Y'all just need to chill,
Quiet Majority (Anonymous),
12-Apr-16 06:46 PM, #37
RE: Y'all just need to chill,
Raltevio,
13-Apr-16 03:50 AM, #43
Brilliant. Thank you for saying this. :-) n/t,
Evil_Ranger,
13-Apr-16 03:53 AM, #44
I disagree on one minor point,
Doof,
19-Apr-16 05:56 AM, #51
One thing I feel you left out.,
Onewingedangel,
19-Apr-16 05:10 PM, #52
House building,
Swordsosaurus,
12-Apr-16 09:30 PM, #38
So a few comments.,
Raltevio,
13-Apr-16 02:43 AM, #40
RE: So a few comments.,
Swordsosaurus,
13-Apr-16 03:21 AM, #42
RE: I started writing a long post, but what it amounted...,
Eskelian,
15-Apr-16 08:14 AM, #48
You misunderstand..,
Raltevio,
15-Apr-16 06:45 PM, #49
Why CF is dead and isn't coming back,
HardTruth,
11-Apr-16 06:40 PM, #2
I like Umiron. I think they do a pretty good job lately...,
Lhydia,
11-Apr-16 06:43 PM, #
Umiron hands your village assassins legacies. I'm not s...,
HardTruth,
11-Apr-16 06:45 PM, #4
Sweet. ,
Lhydia,
11-Apr-16 06:47 PM, #5
I am being helpful right now, by giving my genuine opin...,
HardTruth,
11-Apr-16 06:50 PM, #6
Oh okay. Good talk. Very helpful. Thanks. n/t,
Lhydia,
11-Apr-16 06:51 PM, #7
#### you, leave Jalim alone nt,
N b M,
11-Apr-16 08:56 PM, #10
I honestly agree here.,
Onewingedangel,
11-Apr-16 06:55 PM, #8
RE: Why CF is dead and isn't coming back,
Destuvius,
11-Apr-16 08:49 PM, #9
RE: Why CF is dead and isn't coming back,
Swordsosaurus,
11-Apr-16 09:59 PM, #11
I love Matrik...but one of our best players???,
TMNS,
11-Apr-16 10:20 PM, #12
Yes,
Swordsosaurus,
11-Apr-16 10:26 PM, #14
There is a reason for that...,
Destuvius,
12-Apr-16 05:44 AM, #21
Pretty sure..,
Lhydia,
12-Apr-16 06:35 AM, #22
RE: Pretty sure..,
Destuvius,
12-Apr-16 08:40 AM, #24
Agreed, Never understood the...,
TMNS,
12-Apr-16 09:36 AM, #25
Yeah but you're resident drama king...,
Lhydia,
12-Apr-16 09:58 AM, #27
I mean, that is a valid conspiracy theory.,
TMNS,
12-Apr-16 11:42 AM, #28
As the trusted reader I can confirm both of those claim...,
robdarken_,
12-Apr-16 01:00 PM, #29
Well, there you have it. NT,
TMNS,
12-Apr-16 01:10 PM, #30
Now we know. n/t,
Lhydia,
12-Apr-16 03:38 PM, #32
You misunderstood,
Swordsosaurus,
12-Apr-16 03:37 PM, #31
RE: You misunderstood,
Destuvius,
12-Apr-16 06:27 PM, #35
RE: Why CF is dead and isn't coming back,
robdarken_,
12-Apr-16 12:29 AM, #15
I suppose its a chicken/egg problem,
Destuvius,
12-Apr-16 05:38 AM, #20
RE: I suppose its a chicken/egg problem,
robdarken_,
12-Apr-16 03:51 PM, #33
RE: I suppose its a chicken/egg problem,
Destuvius,
12-Apr-16 06:36 PM, #36
Perhaps he just has a healthy fear of retribution.,
Grifter,
12-Apr-16 05:01 PM, #34
Umiron is the most transparent, not least.,
KoeKhaos,
16-Apr-16 11:16 AM, #50
RE: Why CF is dead and isn't coming back,
Isildur,
25-Apr-16 07:29 AM, #66
I'm not and I've never gotten the impression any other ...,
Umiron,
11-Apr-16 06:34 PM, #1
RE: I'm not and I've never gotten the impression any ot...,
robdarken_,
11-Apr-16 06:44 PM, #3
Dude...they let Torak come back.,
TMNS,
11-Apr-16 10:22 PM, #13
RE: Dude...they let Torak come back.,
robdarken_,
12-Apr-16 12:57 AM, #16
Would it be better if matrix still played?,
incognito,
12-Apr-16 01:29 AM, #17
Who are you again?,
robdarken_,
12-Apr-16 01:51 AM, #18
Someone who dealt with your dios troll pack,
incognito,
12-Apr-16 07:59 AM, #23
Agreed about banning him from the forum.,
TMNS,
12-Apr-16 09:40 AM, #26
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