incognito | Wed 05-Aug-15 01:13 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#60295, "RE: As said before"
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>Honestly, I don't see why it's a problem for there to be an >edge that makes a strong skill stronger unless that >edge pushes the skill over into "unbalanced" territory. Maybe >neuro+edge is unbalanced; I don't know. Shoot, maybe plain >old neuro is unbalanced. > >Smoke and mirrors, by the way, seems like a great edge in that >it actually makes the class a little more fun. And it's not >obviously overpowered. Do I wait for the guy to walk to me, >or do I try to vanish across the place where I can't hide and >hope I land next to him, with the understanding that I might >land in the place where I can't hide and thereby spoil my >stalking? Smoke and mirrors presents the player with those >kinds of choices.
It does way more than that.
You can use it to cut people off on Eastern, for example, without revealing yourself.
It also netted me numerous kills on kiadana.
Finally it significantly reduces the risk of using vanish in somewhere like mortorn.
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Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges
[View all] , Umiron , Sun 19-Jul-15 04:59 PM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Wand edges.,
Kalageadon,
11-Aug-15 05:19 PM, #84
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Combat Elementalist,
Malakhi,
11-Aug-15 01:47 PM, #83
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Herbal Forage,
trewyn,
10-Aug-15 12:02 PM, #81
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That too much power to give away.,
Aereglen,
10-Aug-15 11:45 PM, #82
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) MOAR EDGES,
TrapperJohn (Anonymous),
06-Aug-15 11:30 AM, #78
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This one is nice ~,
Kstatida,
07-Aug-15 02:55 AM, #79
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Feign strength/weakness should be toggleable skills, no...,
Relio,
04-Aug-15 06:10 PM, #69
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I could just about but into thi,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 01:15 AM, #72
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Feign weakness should just be removed,
Kstatida,
05-Aug-15 09:30 AM, #74
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah, no, that edge is hardly OP.,
lasentia,
05-Aug-15 09:58 AM, #76
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'm not sure I agree,
Talisin (Anonymous),
05-Aug-15 10:11 AM, #77
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Agreed totally,
Kstatida,
07-Aug-15 02:58 AM, #80
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'd like to two things with edges. More this or that ch...,
KoeKhaos,
04-Aug-15 06:05 AM, #68
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I like all of this,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 09:42 AM, #75
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A few ideas regarding edge reform.,
Quixotic,
03-Aug-15 09:47 AM, #66
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) As said before,
incognito,
04-Aug-15 01:26 AM, #67
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
Isildur,
05-Aug-15 12:43 AM, #70
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 01:13 AM #71
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
Isildur,
05-Aug-15 08:29 AM, #73
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't think I'd like this,
Swordsosaurus,
02-Aug-15 12:56 AM, #65
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I also niminate the Slaver edge,
laxman,
23-Jul-15 12:29 PM, #61
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) My two cents on slaver.,
Tac,
24-Jul-15 10:43 AM, #63
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A couple of (insomnia induced) thoughts,
Calion,
21-Jul-15 06:01 PM, #50
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: A couple of (insomnia induced) thoughts,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 07:08 PM, #51
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) obs/exp grind is demented,
KaguMaru,
21-Jul-15 08:00 PM, #52
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: obs/exp grind is demented,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 10:24 PM, #53
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: obs/exp grind is demented,
Isildur,
22-Jul-15 12:52 AM, #54
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Bewildering Jolt. nt,
TMNS,
21-Jul-15 12:39 AM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Your reading comprehension is ####,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 12:59 AM, #43
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) +1 nt,
Artificial,
21-Jul-15 01:12 AM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) 3 Things...,
TMNS,
21-Jul-15 01:56 AM, #45
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) When I did my lowbie tranny,
Artificial,
21-Jul-15 07:43 AM, #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What Race?,
Sarien,
21-Jul-15 01:22 PM, #49
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) half-drow.nt,
Artificial,
22-Jul-15 01:54 PM, #56
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges,
Jarmel,
20-Jul-15 08:32 PM, #41
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Twitchy.,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 04:21 PM, #37
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I only ever took it once, and I wouldn't take it again.,
Murphy,
21-Jul-15 03:04 AM, #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Paladin & Invoker edges.,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 11:20 AM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Invoker,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 05:48 PM, #39
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Paladin,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 06:09 PM, #40
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) That's interesting ,
TJHuron,
20-Jul-15 10:49 AM, #32
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Sacred word,
Calion,
20-Jul-15 10:38 AM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Oh and to keep Sacred word as an edge,
Calion,
12-Aug-15 12:01 PM, #85
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Additional Thoughts,
Polmier (Anonymous),
20-Jul-15 10:35 AM, #30
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Roll racial edges in as racial traits?,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 07:35 AM, #22
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Not sure I like this.,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 06:46 AM, #20
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just pick a lane already. n/t,
Lhydia,
20-Jul-15 06:31 AM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That wasn't very productive.,
Lhydia,
20-Jul-15 09:15 AM, #27
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: That wasn't very productive.,
Umiron ,
20-Jul-15 09:26 AM, #28
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What about making cabal edges choosable based on cabal ...,
Lhydia,
24-Jul-15 04:11 PM, #64
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Please leave everything as it is.,
Murphy,
20-Jul-15 12:48 AM, #15
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just a few off the top of my head,
Torak,
20-Jul-15 12:40 AM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Yours too. nt,
TMNS,
20-Jul-15 12:47 AM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't put steal sight high on my list anymore,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 04:10 AM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It's fairly cheap,
Torak,
20-Jul-15 09:34 AM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Not convinced,
incognito,
20-Jul-15 12:54 PM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yup,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 04:44 PM, #38
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) IMHO Steal sight is a good example of...,
Calion,
20-Jul-15 10:56 AM, #33
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It's really got nothing on cure blindness,
KaguMaru,
21-Jul-15 08:12 AM, #48
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It really isn't,
incognito,
22-Jul-15 10:52 AM, #55
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) My list (did this quickly),
Artificial,
19-Jul-15 11:38 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Your reading comprehension is ####. nt,
TMNS,
20-Jul-15 12:47 AM, #13
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It was previously mentioned the desert folk needed some...,
Bedouin (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 10:20 PM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Roll the Bones, Spin the Wheel,
Bemused,
19-Jul-15 09:11 PM, #7
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Slaver,
Polmier (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 08:00 PM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Slaver,
Jhyrbian,
19-Jul-15 09:18 PM, #8
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Nope,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 06:43 AM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This isn't true...,
Tac,
24-Jul-15 10:26 AM, #62
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Nargash and Azhag didn't have it,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 06:17 AM, #17
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Smoke and mirrors,
Mort,
19-Jul-15 07:43 PM, #5
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'd argue,
incognito,
20-Jul-15 12:59 PM, #36
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't think that's a great solution ,
incognito,
19-Jul-15 05:21 PM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't think that's a great solution ,
Umiron ,
19-Jul-15 05:39 PM, #3
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Can I suggest,
incognito,
19-Jul-15 11:47 PM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) don't like this either.,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 07:33 AM, #21
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: don't like this either.,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 08:51 AM, #25
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Also - multikilling,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 09:02 AM, #26
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What about edge points for longevity?,
The_Shark,
22-Jul-15 02:31 PM, #57
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This has been brought up before - People would just idl...,
Sarien,
23-Jul-15 07:34 AM, #58
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: This has been brought up before - People would just...,
Isildur,
23-Jul-15 08:31 AM, #59
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I seriously doubt it would be a problem,
Calion,
23-Jul-15 09:13 AM, #60
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't think that's a great solution ,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 08:35 AM, #24
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Perfect Pitch is the most obvious,
Talisin (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 05:16 PM, #1
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Perfect Pitch is the most obvious,
Jarmel,
19-Jul-15 06:32 PM, #4
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) wrong on a few accounts,
silat,
20-Jul-15 08:04 AM, #23
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