Jarmel | Mon 20-Jul-15 08:32 PM |
Member since 19th Jul 2015
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#60185, "RE: Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges"
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As someone that has recently returned, I personally would probably like to see the flexibility in edges remain. All in all I have played 2 characters that I can remember where edges were an option (Maybe they just came out when I stopped playing but maybe not)
If a particular combination is always taking edge X, Y and Z I think the thing here is it does encourage a level of interaction with the environment in some way PK, Explore, Observation etc. So that this can be taken, but lets say for instance that a mace spec got skull crusher by default then this may saw to the PK side to much.
I thoroughly enjoyed the exploration side of things and the observation side of things coming back. Hell in the last 20-30 hrs of my life I went to areas that from what I could tell there was really no need to go to because they were sub level 40 but found some pretty cool stuff along the way.
If there were changes to be made I would like the following to be taken into consideration: 1. Perhaps only the edges that might make life a little less draining a good example reading it again is Tune as Talisin mentioned its not overly powerful but it drops the chore of the player base. Or the healer example so you can bless and frenzy while wearing weapons/shields. But don't include anything that increases PK strength. 2. If a change is made please consider how it is introduced Kregan was on the edge of the old/new system for edge points. The problem in the halving is those that had been round for 2-3 month prior most likely had maxed everything out. So those situational items and taking edges cause the points were just there. The problem then is to a degree is a ceiling is put in place that does create an advantage one side has versus the other. 3. If an edge is to be rolled in I think it should become a skill, and infact perhaps this could be argued with most edges in general. That way a mace spec does not go from ok cranial to cranial that bashes your head in instead this fighting method is slowly learned. But this is probably a lot more background code and perhaps not the intent of what is being asked. 4. Don't discount the little rewards the edge system gives along the way, I have no idea if some of the edges I picked were good or bad, but having the flexibility to pick some of them gave me some great ideas for 3-4 other roles I now want to try. For someone new to the system it is good to be able to take the occasional clanger as well as the ones that sound really good. 5. All in all tho from my limited experience I think let the dust settle for a while and see where things go. 6. As a side note perhaps some of the help files need to be looked at. I took the read lips edge cause from the help file it appeared I would be able to "hear" tells etc. But in all honesty it appeared to be a complete and utter waste. (See item 5 one of my clangers in taking it kind of eliminated something else I thought would be awesome which to a degree means I don't waste time trying to achieve something later down the track. I like long lived characters investing 80 hrs or so just to throw it away annoys me and I would only do it for so long)
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Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges
[View all] , Umiron , Sun 19-Jul-15 04:59 PM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Wand edges.,
Kalageadon,
11-Aug-15 05:19 PM, #84
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Combat Elementalist,
Malakhi,
11-Aug-15 01:47 PM, #83
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Herbal Forage,
trewyn,
10-Aug-15 12:02 PM, #81
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That too much power to give away.,
Aereglen,
10-Aug-15 11:45 PM, #82
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) MOAR EDGES,
TrapperJohn (Anonymous),
06-Aug-15 11:30 AM, #78
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This one is nice ~,
Kstatida,
07-Aug-15 02:55 AM, #79
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Feign strength/weakness should be toggleable skills, no...,
Relio,
04-Aug-15 06:10 PM, #69
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I could just about but into thi,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 01:15 AM, #72
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Feign weakness should just be removed,
Kstatida,
05-Aug-15 09:30 AM, #74
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah, no, that edge is hardly OP.,
lasentia,
05-Aug-15 09:58 AM, #76
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'm not sure I agree,
Talisin (Anonymous),
05-Aug-15 10:11 AM, #77
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Agreed totally,
Kstatida,
07-Aug-15 02:58 AM, #80
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'd like to two things with edges. More this or that ch...,
KoeKhaos,
04-Aug-15 06:05 AM, #68
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I like all of this,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 09:42 AM, #75
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A few ideas regarding edge reform.,
Quixotic,
03-Aug-15 09:47 AM, #66
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) As said before,
incognito,
04-Aug-15 01:26 AM, #67
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
Isildur,
05-Aug-15 12:43 AM, #70
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 01:13 AM, #71
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
Isildur,
05-Aug-15 08:29 AM, #73
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't think I'd like this,
Swordsosaurus,
02-Aug-15 12:56 AM, #65
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I also niminate the Slaver edge,
laxman,
23-Jul-15 12:29 PM, #61
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) My two cents on slaver.,
Tac,
24-Jul-15 10:43 AM, #63
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A couple of (insomnia induced) thoughts,
Calion,
21-Jul-15 06:01 PM, #50
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: A couple of (insomnia induced) thoughts,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 07:08 PM, #51
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) obs/exp grind is demented,
KaguMaru,
21-Jul-15 08:00 PM, #52
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: obs/exp grind is demented,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 10:24 PM, #53
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: obs/exp grind is demented,
Isildur,
22-Jul-15 12:52 AM, #54
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Bewildering Jolt. nt,
TMNS,
21-Jul-15 12:39 AM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Your reading comprehension is ####,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 12:59 AM, #43
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) +1 nt,
Artificial,
21-Jul-15 01:12 AM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) 3 Things...,
TMNS,
21-Jul-15 01:56 AM, #45
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) When I did my lowbie tranny,
Artificial,
21-Jul-15 07:43 AM, #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What Race?,
Sarien,
21-Jul-15 01:22 PM, #49
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) half-drow.nt,
Artificial,
22-Jul-15 01:54 PM, #56
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges,
Jarmel,
20-Jul-15 08:32 PM #41
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Twitchy.,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 04:21 PM, #37
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I only ever took it once, and I wouldn't take it again.,
Murphy,
21-Jul-15 03:04 AM, #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Paladin & Invoker edges.,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 11:20 AM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Invoker,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 05:48 PM, #39
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Paladin,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 06:09 PM, #40
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) That's interesting ,
TJHuron,
20-Jul-15 10:49 AM, #32
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Sacred word,
Calion,
20-Jul-15 10:38 AM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Oh and to keep Sacred word as an edge,
Calion,
12-Aug-15 12:01 PM, #85
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Additional Thoughts,
Polmier (Anonymous),
20-Jul-15 10:35 AM, #30
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Roll racial edges in as racial traits?,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 07:35 AM, #22
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Not sure I like this.,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 06:46 AM, #20
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just pick a lane already. n/t,
Lhydia,
20-Jul-15 06:31 AM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That wasn't very productive.,
Lhydia,
20-Jul-15 09:15 AM, #27
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: That wasn't very productive.,
Umiron ,
20-Jul-15 09:26 AM, #28
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What about making cabal edges choosable based on cabal ...,
Lhydia,
24-Jul-15 04:11 PM, #64
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Please leave everything as it is.,
Murphy,
20-Jul-15 12:48 AM, #15
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just a few off the top of my head,
Torak,
20-Jul-15 12:40 AM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Yours too. nt,
TMNS,
20-Jul-15 12:47 AM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't put steal sight high on my list anymore,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 04:10 AM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It's fairly cheap,
Torak,
20-Jul-15 09:34 AM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Not convinced,
incognito,
20-Jul-15 12:54 PM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yup,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 04:44 PM, #38
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) IMHO Steal sight is a good example of...,
Calion,
20-Jul-15 10:56 AM, #33
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It's really got nothing on cure blindness,
KaguMaru,
21-Jul-15 08:12 AM, #48
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It really isn't,
incognito,
22-Jul-15 10:52 AM, #55
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) My list (did this quickly),
Artificial,
19-Jul-15 11:38 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Your reading comprehension is ####. nt,
TMNS,
20-Jul-15 12:47 AM, #13
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It was previously mentioned the desert folk needed some...,
Bedouin (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 10:20 PM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Roll the Bones, Spin the Wheel,
Bemused,
19-Jul-15 09:11 PM, #7
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Slaver,
Polmier (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 08:00 PM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Slaver,
Jhyrbian,
19-Jul-15 09:18 PM, #8
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Nope,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 06:43 AM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This isn't true...,
Tac,
24-Jul-15 10:26 AM, #62
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Nargash and Azhag didn't have it,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 06:17 AM, #17
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Smoke and mirrors,
Mort,
19-Jul-15 07:43 PM, #5
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'd argue,
incognito,
20-Jul-15 12:59 PM, #36
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't think that's a great solution ,
incognito,
19-Jul-15 05:21 PM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't think that's a great solution ,
Umiron ,
19-Jul-15 05:39 PM, #3
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Can I suggest,
incognito,
19-Jul-15 11:47 PM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) don't like this either.,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 07:33 AM, #21
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: don't like this either.,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 08:51 AM, #25
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Also - multikilling,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 09:02 AM, #26
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What about edge points for longevity?,
The_Shark,
22-Jul-15 02:31 PM, #57
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This has been brought up before - People would just idl...,
Sarien,
23-Jul-15 07:34 AM, #58
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: This has been brought up before - People would just...,
Isildur,
23-Jul-15 08:31 AM, #59
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I seriously doubt it would be a problem,
Calion,
23-Jul-15 09:13 AM, #60
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't think that's a great solution ,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 08:35 AM, #24
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Perfect Pitch is the most obvious,
Talisin (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 05:16 PM, #1
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Perfect Pitch is the most obvious,
Jarmel,
19-Jul-15 06:32 PM, #4
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) wrong on a few accounts,
silat,
20-Jul-15 08:04 AM, #23
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