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UmironSun 19-Jul-15 04:59 PM
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#60142, "Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges"


          

When we (internally) discussed edges prior to the refactoring we did back in December, one of the things I wanted to look at was edge usage and possibly rolling certain edges into the core game or class.

Certain edges, specifically class edges, tend to be taken by almost everyone who is ever eligible. To a degree, this sort of defeats the purpose of that piece of functionality being an edge because as almost everyone applicable has it, it is no longer a customization. Likewise, these edges tend to be considered "mandatory" instead of a reward or merely a build characteristic.

So, I invite you all to select ONE edge you think should be completely eliminated and rolled into the "base game". The caveat being that I would almost certainly alter said functionality to be slightly more one-dimensional (e.g., maybe where the edge once did X, now it does X adjusted somehow for ). Please attempt to justify your suggestion.

I have my own ideas in mind and I have some concrete data on edge usage that I won't share (yet), as I'm specifically curious what people think about how this would impact the game in general and from both the perspective of the build(s) that would benefit from their suggestion as well as the perspective of its opponents.

Caveat number two: if we were to factor a significant number of edges out of the edge system and into the core game, we would also re-evaluate other edge costs, the distribution of edge points (both in how and quantity), etc. Suggesting we essentially give you X edge points worth of free edges does not mean you'll end up with X more available edge points to spend on more/other edges.

  

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HOT TopicThought Experiment: Incorporating Edges [View all] , Umiron, Sun 19-Jul-15 04:59 PM
Reply Wand edges., Kalageadon, 11-Aug-15 05:19 PM, #84
Reply Combat Elementalist, Malakhi, 11-Aug-15 01:47 PM, #83
Reply Herbal Forage, trewyn, 10-Aug-15 12:02 PM, #81
Reply That too much power to give away., Aereglen, 10-Aug-15 11:45 PM, #82
Reply MOAR EDGES, TrapperJohn (Anonymous), 06-Aug-15 11:30 AM, #78
Reply This one is nice ~, Kstatida, 07-Aug-15 02:55 AM, #79
Reply Feign strength/weakness should be toggleable skills, no..., Relio, 04-Aug-15 06:10 PM, #69
Reply I could just about but into thi, incognito, 05-Aug-15 01:15 AM, #72
Reply Feign weakness should just be removed, Kstatida, 05-Aug-15 09:30 AM, #74
     Reply Yeah, no, that edge is hardly OP., lasentia, 05-Aug-15 09:58 AM, #76
          Reply I'm not sure I agree, Talisin (Anonymous), 05-Aug-15 10:11 AM, #77
               Reply Agreed totally, Kstatida, 07-Aug-15 02:58 AM, #80
Reply I'd like to two things with edges. More this or that ch..., KoeKhaos, 04-Aug-15 06:05 AM, #68
Reply I like all of this, incognito, 05-Aug-15 09:42 AM, #75
Reply A few ideas regarding edge reform., Quixotic, 03-Aug-15 09:47 AM, #66
Reply As said before, incognito, 04-Aug-15 01:26 AM, #67
     Reply RE: As said before, Isildur, 05-Aug-15 12:43 AM, #70
          Reply RE: As said before, incognito, 05-Aug-15 01:13 AM, #71
               Reply RE: As said before, Isildur, 05-Aug-15 08:29 AM, #73
Reply I don't think I'd like this, Swordsosaurus, 02-Aug-15 12:56 AM, #65
Reply I also niminate the Slaver edge, laxman, 23-Jul-15 12:29 PM, #61
Reply My two cents on slaver., Tac, 24-Jul-15 10:43 AM, #63
Reply A couple of (insomnia induced) thoughts, Calion, 21-Jul-15 06:01 PM, #50
Reply RE: A couple of (insomnia induced) thoughts, Bemused, 21-Jul-15 07:08 PM, #51
     Reply obs/exp grind is demented, KaguMaru, 21-Jul-15 08:00 PM, #52
          Reply RE: obs/exp grind is demented, Bemused, 21-Jul-15 10:24 PM, #53
               Reply RE: obs/exp grind is demented, Isildur, 22-Jul-15 12:52 AM, #54
Reply Bewildering Jolt. nt, TMNS, 21-Jul-15 12:39 AM, #42
Reply Your reading comprehension is ####, Bemused, 21-Jul-15 12:59 AM, #43
     Reply +1 nt, Artificial, 21-Jul-15 01:12 AM, #44
     Reply 3 Things..., TMNS, 21-Jul-15 01:56 AM, #45
          Reply When I did my lowbie tranny, Artificial, 21-Jul-15 07:43 AM, #47
               Reply What Race?, Sarien, 21-Jul-15 01:22 PM, #49
                    Reply half-drow.nt, Artificial, 22-Jul-15 01:54 PM, #56
Reply RE: Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges, Jarmel, 20-Jul-15 08:32 PM, #41
Reply Twitchy., Isildur, 20-Jul-15 04:21 PM, #37
Reply I only ever took it once, and I wouldn't take it again., Murphy, 21-Jul-15 03:04 AM, #46
Reply Paladin & Invoker edges., Perpetual_Noob, 20-Jul-15 11:20 AM, #34
Reply Invoker, Perpetual_Noob, 20-Jul-15 05:48 PM, #39
Reply Paladin, Perpetual_Noob, 20-Jul-15 06:09 PM, #40
Reply That's interesting , TJHuron, 20-Jul-15 10:49 AM, #32
Reply Sacred word, Calion, 20-Jul-15 10:38 AM, #31
Reply Oh and to keep Sacred word as an edge, Calion, 12-Aug-15 12:01 PM, #85
Reply Additional Thoughts, Polmier (Anonymous), 20-Jul-15 10:35 AM, #30
Reply Roll racial edges in as racial traits?, Sarien, 20-Jul-15 07:35 AM, #22
Reply Not sure I like this., Sarien, 20-Jul-15 06:46 AM, #20
Reply Just pick a lane already. n/t, Lhydia, 20-Jul-15 06:31 AM, #18
Reply That wasn't very productive., Lhydia, 20-Jul-15 09:15 AM, #27
     Reply RE: That wasn't very productive., Umiron, 20-Jul-15 09:26 AM, #28
          Reply What about making cabal edges choosable based on cabal ..., Lhydia, 24-Jul-15 04:11 PM, #64
Reply Please leave everything as it is., Murphy, 20-Jul-15 12:48 AM, #15
Reply Just a few off the top of my head, Torak, 20-Jul-15 12:40 AM, #12
Reply Yours too. nt, TMNS, 20-Jul-15 12:47 AM, #14
Reply I don't put steal sight high on my list anymore, KaguMaru, 20-Jul-15 04:10 AM, #16
Reply It's fairly cheap, Torak, 20-Jul-15 09:34 AM, #29
     Reply Not convinced, incognito, 20-Jul-15 12:54 PM, #35
          Reply Yup, KaguMaru, 20-Jul-15 04:44 PM, #38
Reply IMHO Steal sight is a good example of..., Calion, 20-Jul-15 10:56 AM, #33
     Reply It's really got nothing on cure blindness, KaguMaru, 21-Jul-15 08:12 AM, #48
     Reply It really isn't, incognito, 22-Jul-15 10:52 AM, #55
Reply My list (did this quickly), Artificial, 19-Jul-15 11:38 PM, #10
Reply Your reading comprehension is ####. nt, TMNS, 20-Jul-15 12:47 AM, #13
Reply It was previously mentioned the desert folk needed some..., Bedouin (Anonymous), 19-Jul-15 10:20 PM, #9
Reply Roll the Bones, Spin the Wheel, Bemused, 19-Jul-15 09:11 PM, #7
Reply Slaver, Polmier (Anonymous), 19-Jul-15 08:00 PM, #6
Reply RE: Slaver, Jhyrbian, 19-Jul-15 09:18 PM, #8
Reply Nope, KaguMaru, 20-Jul-15 06:43 AM, #19
Reply This isn't true..., Tac, 24-Jul-15 10:26 AM, #62
Reply Nargash and Azhag didn't have it, KaguMaru, 20-Jul-15 06:17 AM, #17
Reply Smoke and mirrors, Mort, 19-Jul-15 07:43 PM, #5
Reply I'd argue, incognito, 20-Jul-15 12:59 PM, #36
Reply I don't think that's a great solution , incognito, 19-Jul-15 05:21 PM, #2
Reply RE: I don't think that's a great solution , Umiron, 19-Jul-15 05:39 PM, #3
     Reply Can I suggest, incognito, 19-Jul-15 11:47 PM, #11
     Reply don't like this either., Sarien, 20-Jul-15 07:33 AM, #21
          Reply RE: don't like this either., Isildur, 20-Jul-15 08:51 AM, #25
               Reply Also - multikilling, Sarien, 20-Jul-15 09:02 AM, #26
               Reply What about edge points for longevity?, The_Shark, 22-Jul-15 02:31 PM, #57
                    Reply This has been brought up before - People would just idl..., Sarien, 23-Jul-15 07:34 AM, #58
                         Reply RE: This has been brought up before - People would just..., Isildur, 23-Jul-15 08:31 AM, #59
                              Reply I seriously doubt it would be a problem, Calion, 23-Jul-15 09:13 AM, #60
     Reply RE: I don't think that's a great solution , Isildur, 20-Jul-15 08:35 AM, #24
Reply Perfect Pitch is the most obvious, Talisin (Anonymous), 19-Jul-15 05:16 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Perfect Pitch is the most obvious, Jarmel, 19-Jul-15 06:32 PM, #4
          Reply wrong on a few accounts, silat, 20-Jul-15 08:04 AM, #23
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