Umiron![](./images/team_imm.gif) | Sun 19-Jul-15 04:59 PM |
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#60142, "Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges"
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When we (internally) discussed edges prior to the refactoring we did back in December, one of the things I wanted to look at was edge usage and possibly rolling certain edges into the core game or class.
Certain edges, specifically class edges, tend to be taken by almost everyone who is ever eligible. To a degree, this sort of defeats the purpose of that piece of functionality being an edge because as almost everyone applicable has it, it is no longer a customization. Likewise, these edges tend to be considered "mandatory" instead of a reward or merely a build characteristic.
So, I invite you all to select ONE edge you think should be completely eliminated and rolled into the "base game". The caveat being that I would almost certainly alter said functionality to be slightly more one-dimensional (e.g., maybe where the edge once did X, now it does X adjusted somehow for ). Please attempt to justify your suggestion.
I have my own ideas in mind and I have some concrete data on edge usage that I won't share (yet), as I'm specifically curious what people think about how this would impact the game in general and from both the perspective of the build(s) that would benefit from their suggestion as well as the perspective of its opponents.
Caveat number two: if we were to factor a significant number of edges out of the edge system and into the core game, we would also re-evaluate other edge costs, the distribution of edge points (both in how and quantity), etc. Suggesting we essentially give you X edge points worth of free edges does not mean you'll end up with X more available edge points to spend on more/other edges.
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Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges
[View all] , Umiron , Sun 19-Jul-15 04:59 PM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Wand edges.,
Kalageadon,
11-Aug-15 05:19 PM, #84
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Combat Elementalist,
Malakhi,
11-Aug-15 01:47 PM, #83
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Herbal Forage,
trewyn,
10-Aug-15 12:02 PM, #81
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That too much power to give away.,
Aereglen,
10-Aug-15 11:45 PM, #82
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) MOAR EDGES,
TrapperJohn (Anonymous),
06-Aug-15 11:30 AM, #78
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This one is nice ~,
Kstatida,
07-Aug-15 02:55 AM, #79
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Feign strength/weakness should be toggleable skills, no...,
Relio,
04-Aug-15 06:10 PM, #69
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I could just about but into thi,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 01:15 AM, #72
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Feign weakness should just be removed,
Kstatida,
05-Aug-15 09:30 AM, #74
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah, no, that edge is hardly OP.,
lasentia,
05-Aug-15 09:58 AM, #76
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'm not sure I agree,
Talisin (Anonymous),
05-Aug-15 10:11 AM, #77
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Agreed totally,
Kstatida,
07-Aug-15 02:58 AM, #80
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'd like to two things with edges. More this or that ch...,
KoeKhaos,
04-Aug-15 06:05 AM, #68
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I like all of this,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 09:42 AM, #75
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A few ideas regarding edge reform.,
Quixotic,
03-Aug-15 09:47 AM, #66
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) As said before,
incognito,
04-Aug-15 01:26 AM, #67
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
Isildur,
05-Aug-15 12:43 AM, #70
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
incognito,
05-Aug-15 01:13 AM, #71
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As said before,
Isildur,
05-Aug-15 08:29 AM, #73
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't think I'd like this,
Swordsosaurus,
02-Aug-15 12:56 AM, #65
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I also niminate the Slaver edge,
laxman,
23-Jul-15 12:29 PM, #61
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) My two cents on slaver.,
Tac,
24-Jul-15 10:43 AM, #63
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A couple of (insomnia induced) thoughts,
Calion,
21-Jul-15 06:01 PM, #50
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: A couple of (insomnia induced) thoughts,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 07:08 PM, #51
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) obs/exp grind is demented,
KaguMaru,
21-Jul-15 08:00 PM, #52
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: obs/exp grind is demented,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 10:24 PM, #53
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: obs/exp grind is demented,
Isildur,
22-Jul-15 12:52 AM, #54
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Bewildering Jolt. nt,
TMNS,
21-Jul-15 12:39 AM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Your reading comprehension is ####,
Bemused,
21-Jul-15 12:59 AM, #43
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) +1 nt,
Artificial,
21-Jul-15 01:12 AM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) 3 Things...,
TMNS,
21-Jul-15 01:56 AM, #45
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) When I did my lowbie tranny,
Artificial,
21-Jul-15 07:43 AM, #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What Race?,
Sarien,
21-Jul-15 01:22 PM, #49
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) half-drow.nt,
Artificial,
22-Jul-15 01:54 PM, #56
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Thought Experiment: Incorporating Edges,
Jarmel,
20-Jul-15 08:32 PM, #41
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Twitchy.,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 04:21 PM, #37
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I only ever took it once, and I wouldn't take it again.,
Murphy,
21-Jul-15 03:04 AM, #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Paladin & Invoker edges.,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 11:20 AM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Invoker,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 05:48 PM, #39
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Paladin,
Perpetual_Noob,
20-Jul-15 06:09 PM, #40
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) That's interesting ,
TJHuron,
20-Jul-15 10:49 AM, #32
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Sacred word,
Calion,
20-Jul-15 10:38 AM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Oh and to keep Sacred word as an edge,
Calion,
12-Aug-15 12:01 PM, #85
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Additional Thoughts,
Polmier (Anonymous),
20-Jul-15 10:35 AM, #30
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Roll racial edges in as racial traits?,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 07:35 AM, #22
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Not sure I like this.,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 06:46 AM, #20
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just pick a lane already. n/t,
Lhydia,
20-Jul-15 06:31 AM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That wasn't very productive.,
Lhydia,
20-Jul-15 09:15 AM, #27
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: That wasn't very productive.,
Umiron ,
20-Jul-15 09:26 AM, #28
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What about making cabal edges choosable based on cabal ...,
Lhydia,
24-Jul-15 04:11 PM, #64
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Please leave everything as it is.,
Murphy,
20-Jul-15 12:48 AM, #15
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just a few off the top of my head,
Torak,
20-Jul-15 12:40 AM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Yours too. nt,
TMNS,
20-Jul-15 12:47 AM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't put steal sight high on my list anymore,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 04:10 AM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It's fairly cheap,
Torak,
20-Jul-15 09:34 AM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Not convinced,
incognito,
20-Jul-15 12:54 PM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yup,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 04:44 PM, #38
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) IMHO Steal sight is a good example of...,
Calion,
20-Jul-15 10:56 AM, #33
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It's really got nothing on cure blindness,
KaguMaru,
21-Jul-15 08:12 AM, #48
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It really isn't,
incognito,
22-Jul-15 10:52 AM, #55
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) My list (did this quickly),
Artificial,
19-Jul-15 11:38 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Your reading comprehension is ####. nt,
TMNS,
20-Jul-15 12:47 AM, #13
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It was previously mentioned the desert folk needed some...,
Bedouin (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 10:20 PM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Roll the Bones, Spin the Wheel,
Bemused,
19-Jul-15 09:11 PM, #7
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Slaver,
Polmier (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 08:00 PM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Slaver,
Jhyrbian,
19-Jul-15 09:18 PM, #8
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Nope,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 06:43 AM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This isn't true...,
Tac,
24-Jul-15 10:26 AM, #62
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Nargash and Azhag didn't have it,
KaguMaru,
20-Jul-15 06:17 AM, #17
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Smoke and mirrors,
Mort,
19-Jul-15 07:43 PM, #5
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'd argue,
incognito,
20-Jul-15 12:59 PM, #36
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't think that's a great solution ,
incognito,
19-Jul-15 05:21 PM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't think that's a great solution ,
Umiron ,
19-Jul-15 05:39 PM, #3
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Can I suggest,
incognito,
19-Jul-15 11:47 PM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) don't like this either.,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 07:33 AM, #21
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: don't like this either.,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 08:51 AM, #25
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Also - multikilling,
Sarien,
20-Jul-15 09:02 AM, #26
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What about edge points for longevity?,
The_Shark,
22-Jul-15 02:31 PM, #57
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This has been brought up before - People would just idl...,
Sarien,
23-Jul-15 07:34 AM, #58
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: This has been brought up before - People would just...,
Isildur,
23-Jul-15 08:31 AM, #59
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I seriously doubt it would be a problem,
Calion,
23-Jul-15 09:13 AM, #60
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't think that's a great solution ,
Isildur,
20-Jul-15 08:35 AM, #24
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Perfect Pitch is the most obvious,
Talisin (Anonymous),
19-Jul-15 05:16 PM, #1
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Perfect Pitch is the most obvious,
Jarmel,
19-Jul-15 06:32 PM, #4
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) wrong on a few accounts,
silat,
20-Jul-15 08:04 AM, #23
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