Murphy | Tue 02-Dec-14 03:04 PM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
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#57244, "Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD"
Edited on Tue 02-Dec-14 03:05 PM
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It's like playing D&D and introducing a new houserule every other session. I agree that players typically can't see the whole picture, but it doesn't mean they'll appreciate their characters being used as guinea pigs.
I found that knowing (and working on, or making decisions in) the game's underlying mechanics does wonders about attitude. If I decide to nerf a build in my MUD and it affects my own mortal character, do you think I'm going to care much? But players will care about theirs; your emotional investment goes into the whole world whereas they only have their character.
There's no unique guideline about making changes without alienating the playerbase. But, ffs, when you intend to nerf one thing, and buff another to compensate, implement the buff before you do the nerf.
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role/imm xp
[View all] , ibuki, Tue 02-Dec-14 08:02 PM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Comments,
Umiron ,
02-Dec-14 06:59 PM, #66
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Thanks for your time on this and the insight behind the...,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 11:27 PM, #74
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Thanks for the clarifying post,
lasentia,
03-Dec-14 10:48 AM, #78
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I may get lynched, but since Imm exp will be more impor...,
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 01:23 PM, #80
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) No. (nt),
Umiron ,
03-Jan-15 01:38 PM, #81
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) did you get my Christmas card big guy? ;-),
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 03:28 PM, #82
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) All you had to do was say you had a system in place,
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 04:48 PM, #83
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: All you had to do was say you had a system in place,
Straklaw,
03-Jan-15 09:34 PM, #84
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Because we love you, Quix:,
Rayihn,
04-Jan-15 07:22 PM, #85
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A few points.,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 01:43 PM, #49
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Great post, but I have some followup commentary.,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 02:19 PM, #50
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Great post, but I have some followup commentary.,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 07:24 PM, #68
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: A few points.,
N b M,
02-Dec-14 02:34 PM, #52
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Yeah, basically this.,
Calion,
02-Dec-14 03:20 PM, #57
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: A few points.,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 07:39 PM, #69
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) By the way..,
Mendos ,
03-Dec-14 03:43 AM, #75
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 03:05 PM #55
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 07:44 PM, #67
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I KNOW you're not trying to be bad guys.,
Murphy,
03-Dec-14 06:07 AM, #76
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It hasn't been ignored.,
Mendos ,
03-Dec-14 10:13 AM, #77
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Wholesale speculation...,
Tac,
02-Dec-14 04:25 PM, #58
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Wholesale speculation...,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 07:46 PM, #65
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: A few points.,
Bemused,
02-Dec-14 04:46 PM, #59
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: A few points.,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 06:43 PM, #63
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Excellent Points,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 06:09 PM, #60
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Eh I mean.,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 06:23 PM, #62
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Shifter question,
Pendragon_Surtr,
02-Dec-14 04:35 PM, #70
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Check Santa Umi.,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 06:47 PM, #64
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Thanks Mendos,
Pendragon_Surtr,
02-Dec-14 08:02 PM, #71
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) No problem.,
Mendos ,
02-Dec-14 08:05 PM, #72
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Feedback,
Tsunami,
02-Dec-14 09:45 AM, #44
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I can't decide whether to quit or,
Pendragon_Surtr,
01-Dec-14 07:24 PM, #28
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Tears are falling fast,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:24 AM, #42
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) If you're in a cabal and someone bothers to take your i...,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 09:33 AM, #43
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) hah, 90 hours played....,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 09:52 AM, #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Maybe don't play on the winning team. nt,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:58 AM, #47
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) As if!,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 02:21 PM, #51
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) If you really wanted an internet,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 02:45 PM, #53
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I probably just lost an internet...,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 03:00 PM, #54
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Its somewhere in here. Can't hear sound at work.,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 03:17 PM, #56
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Here it is.,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:50 PM, #73
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This depends on luck,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 10:00 AM, #48
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) i don't understand the general tone of changes lately.,
Athioles,
01-Dec-14 07:04 PM, #26
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Few things,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 07:59 AM, #38
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Players are funny.,
lasentia,
01-Dec-14 02:59 PM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) actually it empowers PK oriented players,
laxman,
01-Dec-14 03:16 PM, #20
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Players are funny.,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 03:39 PM, #21
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Some counters, just to consider.,
lasentia,
01-Dec-14 04:20 PM, #22
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Counter counters?,
Tac,
01-Dec-14 04:49 PM, #23
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Those who bitched,
Murphy,
01-Dec-14 05:14 PM, #24
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Re: Imm Favoratism,
Nythos (Anonymous),
01-Dec-14 06:50 PM, #25
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I like this change,
Treebeard,
01-Dec-14 11:30 AM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I too would love the 1 per every 10 levels method, with...,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 11:40 AM, #16
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I see what you're saying, and I think it comes down to ...,
Treebeard,
01-Dec-14 11:50 AM, #17
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I like getting my edges via PK personally,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 12:29 PM, #18
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I almost always agree with the Imms but even I do not u...,
polmier,
01-Dec-14 11:21 AM, #13
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) umm,
incognito,
01-Dec-14 11:15 AM, #12
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I do not like this change. Nor do I understand the des...,
Tac,
01-Dec-14 10:56 AM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: role/imm xp,
Bemused,
01-Dec-14 08:49 AM, #6
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Are the caps for observation, exploration, and commerce...,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 07:49 AM, #3
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The caps are the same.,
Umiron ,
01-Dec-14 08:19 AM, #4
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: The caps are the same.,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 10:35 AM, #8
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Re: Imm XP Requirements,
Umiron ,
01-Dec-14 07:40 AM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Please explain the 'good' reason behind these requireme...,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 08:26 AM, #5
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It basically just makes the game more grind and less fu...,
Lhydia,
01-Dec-14 09:42 AM, #7
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) This..,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 10:59 AM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: This..,
Hutto,
01-Dec-14 11:39 AM, #15
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I didn't even think of commerce xp.,
Athioles,
01-Dec-14 07:19 PM, #27
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Stop trying to game the system,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:04 AM, #39
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: It basically just makes the game more grind and les...,
Akresius,
01-Dec-14 08:12 PM, #29
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Sweet. Thanks. n/t,
Lhydia,
01-Dec-14 08:21 PM, #30
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'd be pretty OK with this change if there were now oth...,
TJHuron,
01-Dec-14 08:34 PM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I'd be pretty OK with this change if there were now...,
Akresius,
01-Dec-14 09:01 PM, #32
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 05:38 AM, #33
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Destuvius ,
02-Dec-14 06:15 AM, #
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) There is a bigger..unmentioned issue underlying this al...,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 07:53 AM, #36
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Counterpoints,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:10 AM, #41
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Invalid,
Tsunami,
02-Dec-14 09:51 AM, #45
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Good points. nt,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 06:11 PM, #61
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Destuvius ,
02-Dec-14 06:15 AM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I guess I play those builds that rely on edges to work ...,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 06:51 AM, #35
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I agree 100% dude.,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 07:59 AM, #37
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Beware imm exp farming,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:07 AM, #40
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I quadrupled my xpadds in December.,
Akresius,
01-Jan-15 11:20 AM, #79
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Not a good change.,
xrus,
01-Dec-14 11:12 AM, #11
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Also emote for familiars and emote in form. n/t,
Shifter/Conjie (Anonymous),
01-Dec-14 07:00 AM, #1
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