orangepowered | Fri 25-Jan-13 09:52 AM |
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#48585, "RE: Deathblow Discussion"
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I wasn't trying to suggesting that non-rager warriors are meaner to ABS mages.
I was trying to suggest there are other things I'm normally more worried about on a ABS shifter then deathblow. Entwine. Crimson Scourge. Critical Hit. Bloodthirst. That is probably missing some of the ones elite players would list. A few extra hits for dismembers instead of wounds doesn't seem that big of a deal compared to the rest.
I suppose it depends on the mage, but having fought mostly shifters I feel like at least with them I can work them until they have no mana then retrieve. They aren't likely to permalag me. They can be dirt kicked/eye gouged without calling bloodthirst to get over it (unless I miss understand how this works). They can keep being engaged until they are out of wands or fight you without them.
I am not going to disagree that the premise is faulty, I think it probably is after reading everyone's posts. It is one of the reasons I posted this, to learn.
Any more I think the problem in my mind lies in that Nexus martial classes really don't seem equipped to handle ragers all that well. The bond is unreliable to have, and vanguard does some but not enough. Basically, if you are in Nexus and destroying RBW you would probably be doing it without Nexus. When Nexus rolls villagers, it seems like it is because of superior numbers or power builds (or super skilled players).
As far as ABS mages, I do feel the pain there as if you aren't a power build your not going to stack up well against them. I suppose that is also some of my frustration, feeling pushed into power builds to actually compete. Who doesn't want to be the one to discover a new build and do well with it? I suppose it just isn't likely.
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Deathblow Discussion
[View all] , orangepowered, Tue 22-Jan-13 06:11 PM
There's a log on dios where vanguard falls mid battle. ,
jalbrin,
26-Jan-13 12:49 PM, #91
Links or it didn't happen. (N/t),
orangepowered,
26-Jan-13 02:25 PM, #92
Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduction...,
jalbrin,
02-Feb-13 02:53 PM, #103
RE: Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduc...,
orangepowered,
04-Feb-13 10:49 AM, #104
A couple things.,
TMNS,
04-Feb-13 01:39 PM, #105
RE: A couple things.,
orangepowered,
04-Feb-13 05:31 PM, #107
Wrap Up,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:50 PM, #87
RE: Wrap Up,
Daevryn,
26-Jan-13 01:04 AM, #88
Heal and run is unsatisfying,
Valkenar,
28-Jan-13 09:54 PM, #99
RE: Heal and run is unsatisfying,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-13 10:45 PM, #101
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Malakhi,
24-Jan-13 10:00 PM, #35
Time investment and luck,
Artificial,
25-Jan-13 01:15 AM, #36
RE: Time investment and luck,
Illanthos,
25-Jan-13 11:13 AM, #43
It can be that bad,
incognito,
25-Jan-13 12:04 PM, #44
You don't need barrier to pk.,
Tesline,
28-Jan-13 12:40 PM, #97
If you're an obligate limited black necro/ap,
Artificial,
25-Jan-13 01:28 PM, #48
RE: If you're an obligate limited black necro/ap,
Illanthos,
25-Jan-13 02:00 PM, #52
don't agree with much of this,
incognito,
25-Jan-13 07:33 PM, #79
hard is a relative term,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 11:00 PM, #84
RE: hard is a relative term,
Illanthos,
26-Jan-13 01:28 AM, #89
stick a tampon in it,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 02:17 PM, #55
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Isildur,
25-Jan-13 08:19 AM, #37
A stupid suggestion that would solve this and above com...,
Tac,
25-Jan-13 10:00 AM, #39
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Marcus_,
25-Jan-13 10:04 AM, #40
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 09:52 AM #38
Some ways for Nexus to dominate Battle,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 10:07 AM, #41
RE: Some ways for Nexus to dominate Battle,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:41 PM, #61
you aren't understanding what is being said,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 04:14 PM, #62
That's exactly it.,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 04:45 PM, #66
RE: That's exactly it.,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:09 PM, #68
The point continues to elude you.,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 05:14 PM, #71
RE: The point continues to elude you.,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:15 PM, #72
I'll take a stab at it:,
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:46 PM, #82
RE: I'll take a stab at it:,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:36 PM, #85
Some thoughts,
lasentia,
25-Jan-13 12:16 PM, #47
RE: Some thoughts,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:36 PM, #59
you do know that parry/dodge > dam redux for dealing wi...,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 04:15 PM, #63
RE: you do know that parry/dodge > dam redux for dealin...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 04:30 PM, #64
On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the worst.,
TMNS,
25-Jan-13 01:45 PM, #50
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 02:51 PM, #56
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 03:07 PM, #58
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:40 PM, #60
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 04:33 PM, #65
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:08 PM, #67
You are assuming a bunch of things here and heavily ove...,
Amberion,
25-Jan-13 05:10 PM, #69
RE: You are assuming a bunch of things here and heavily...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:12 PM, #70
Well, like this:,
Amberion,
25-Jan-13 05:29 PM, #74
Thanks, super appreciated (n/t),
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:36 PM, #76
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:08 PM, #81
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:39 PM, #86
Only chars I play that "farm gold" are imperials...,
Amberion,
26-Jan-13 03:35 AM, #90
For the record,
Marcus_,
23-Jan-13 05:07 AM, #7
RE: For the record,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 09:33 AM, #13
RE: For the record,
Marcus_,
23-Jan-13 10:55 AM, #19
Cool, thanks for being reasonable. (n/t),
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 11:46 AM, #20
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Daevryn,
22-Jan-13 07:40 PM, #2
Yes, though not a RBW. (N/t),
orangepowered,
22-Jan-13 07:58 PM, #3
My experience with Krunk tells me RBW is hopelessy unde...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 09:07 AM, #9
I don't disagree with anything you said in the message,...,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 09:29 AM, #12
No, I'm pointing out your original post in a fallacy,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 10:19 AM, #17
RE: No, I'm pointing out your original post in a fallac...,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 10:22 AM, #18
You are doing something wrong.,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 02:31 PM, #25
RE: You are doing something wrong.,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 04:21 PM, #29
That is exactly what the first paragraph is saying...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 05:59 PM, #30
RE: That is exactly what the first paragraph is saying....,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 06:07 PM, #31
In Nabig's logs there's a mention of how underpowered d...,
highbutterfly,
24-Jan-13 03:05 AM, #32
The problem with this...,
Homard,
22-Jan-13 07:06 PM, #1
RE: The problem with this...,
Isildur,
22-Jan-13 07:59 PM, #4
That's not what I'm saying at all.,
Homard,
22-Jan-13 08:59 PM, #5
RE: That's not what I'm saying at all.,
Isildur,
23-Jan-13 08:29 AM, #8
FWIW I find villagers (especially berserkers) the easie...,
TMNS,
23-Jan-13 04:18 PM, #28
this is all so silly,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 09:09 AM, #10
RE: this is all so silly,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 10:07 AM, #14
You are over generalizing a little,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 12:23 PM, #21
How are you outdamaging them?,
Valkenar,
24-Jan-13 03:22 PM, #33
RE: How are you outdamaging them?,
Daevryn,
24-Jan-13 09:59 PM, #34
The log from the log board.,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 10:37 AM, #42
umm one example doesn't change the fact that bashing/cr...,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 12:05 PM, #45
RE: umm one example doesn't change the fact that bashin...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 12:11 PM, #46
That log wasn't typical in one way, but was very typica...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 01:45 PM, #49
having played a lot of tough villagers,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 02:08 PM, #54
Aye. It gets much much better for villagers when they a...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 05:31 PM, #75
I would upvote this if it was that kind of forum (n/t),
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:03 PM, #80
This is why i'm still a newb after many years of CF,
vorian,
27-Jan-13 11:17 AM, #93
RE: This is why i'm still a newb after many years of CF,
Daevryn,
27-Jan-13 11:39 AM, #94
With Eryndiahl ,
CD,
27-Jan-13 11:58 AM, #95
not that highly limited,
laxman,
28-Jan-13 10:00 AM, #96
I see, but ...,
vorian,
28-Jan-13 08:21 PM, #98
hitroll has virtually no value for a hero range warrior,
laxman,
29-Jan-13 05:12 PM, #102
RE: not that highly limited,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-13 10:41 PM, #100
Couldn't have said it better myself. NT,
TMNS,
04-Feb-13 01:42 PM, #106
RE: That log wasn't typical in one way, but was very ty...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 03:04 PM, #57
I am saying that berserker's powers don't need to have ...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 05:25 PM, #73
RE: I am saying that berserker's powers don't need to h...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 06:46 PM, #77
And why should ANY POWERS help against textbook kills?,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 07:27 PM, #78
you assume it was just db,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 10:53 PM, #83
Here's a better (set) of logs.,
TMNS,
25-Jan-13 01:53 PM, #51
Man do berserkers love ganging this guy outside of raid...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 02:02 PM, #53
RE: The problem with this...,
highbutterfly,
23-Jan-13 02:02 AM, #6
they can end the war you know,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 09:12 AM, #11
My experience is that villagers won't end a war,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 10:16 AM, #16
having been in many village wars thats bull,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 12:27 PM, #22
I reluctantly agree...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 02:31 PM, #26
RE: they can end the war you know,
Isildur,
23-Jan-13 12:31 PM, #23
you assume that having a mage leader is why they are at...,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 01:39 PM, #24
It would not be typical Maran RP,
Humbert,
23-Jan-13 04:13 PM, #27
The Village/Fort War is an unusual state of affairs.,
Homard,
23-Jan-13 10:15 AM, #15
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