orangepowered | Mon 04-Feb-13 10:47 AM |
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#48813, "RE: Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduction from vanguard, on melee strikes"
Edited on Mon 04-Feb-13 10:49 AM
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Power, not powers. Bond is incredibly powerful if frequently not present. It frustrates me even further when you try to pamper and help shifters so you have people to bond with just to have them delete days later.
I reviewed the log. In this log it looks to be providing over 50% dam reduction. I would guess that some of this has to be because of Szzilizi being evil and vanguard potentially providing protection from evil. The *** Demo's he looks like he would normally be doing also would seem to be big enough hits for vanguard to be dropping them. This is legit damage reduction.
Had vanguard stayed up, who is your money on? Mine is still probably on Szzilizi.
I would like to do a comparison for a 1vs1 nexun warrior vs RBW warrior.
Village Powers Berserkers Resist which provides consistent damage reduction Deathblow which provides an amazing increase in damage production Bloodthirst which seems to provide haste, some protection against lag, protection against maledictions, protection against blindness, at a large risk to yourself Truesight - Detect invis, cure blindness Spellbane - Counter spells, save vs spells.
After some debate and trying to learn from the forums, these powers are awesome and fun and should stay the way they are.
Nexus Powers Eye - Free Detect Invis/Alignment/Ethos/Magic. Basically a power that is required to figured out who to fight. Gauge - Another power that is just required to figure out who to fight. Vanguard Protection vs strong alignment - This is helpful for everyone else, but largely not against ragers especially recently with how often light is strong and the rarity of goodie villagers. Damage Reduction against strong hits - I loved this against rangers and thieves. It was somewhat useful against berserkers. The problem really comes in that it does little against the warriors who are more about hitting you a lot for medium damage instead of a little for big damage.
Resist vs Vanguard - Not a bad comparison, but I would rather have consistent damage reduction than sometimes damage reduction. Truesight vs Eye - I suppose I would take truesight for the curing of blindness without having to always have potions on me to do it. Gauge vs ? - Gaining no benefit at all beyond knowing who to fight, I see nothing comparing to this. Deathblow vs ? - Keep dreaming Nexun. Bloodthirst vs ? - The general answer said is RUN AWAY. Woo, thats fun. Spellbane vs ? - Yeah that would be nice Nexun. At least you are not fighting mages all the time, wait you mean a-p's and necro's and transmuters still want to kill you to?
Ever present argument - Nexuns have the numbers! Yeah, so what if I am constantly outnumbered? Do I really have the numbers?
The truth is for a solo nexun vs RBW, your powers are just lame. One of your powers does something, woooo. It doesn't mean you have to lose, you can play smart and win. It doesn't mean there won't be successful nexun warriors, some builds are good enough or people are talented enough to pull it off. It doesn't change my mind that nexus powers are still lame.
The other counter is that the bond does make up for a lot of the short comings and can be rather fierce. I really don't feel like it is overpowered just because you have to have two people work perfectly together, which is frequently lacking.
So don't play them. Well, okay I really don't want to but I don't like any other cabal but villagers any better and I don't have the patience to play them constantly. Outlander - The last time I played it felt like a collection of independent people who had very little interest in one another, which bored me. Scion - I am not sure I have the talent or patience to pull this off honestly. Empire/Fort - I have enjoyed empire and fort in the past, but it just feels like the Fort/Empire wars cause people to be ugly and brutal to each other. I also hate the summoning traps and numbers on both sides. Tribunal - No patience for sitting on my butt for hours in town twiddling my thumbs. Battleragers - I love everything about them, you know, except for not having teleport potions . Herald - I enjoy more pk than rp, though do enjoy both so I don't see myself fitting in here. Nexus - At least you consistently have someone to fight and allies who want to work together.
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Deathblow Discussion
[View all] , orangepowered, Tue 22-Jan-13 06:11 PM
There's a log on dios where vanguard falls mid battle. ,
jalbrin,
26-Jan-13 12:49 PM, #91
Links or it didn't happen. (N/t),
orangepowered,
26-Jan-13 02:25 PM, #92
Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduction...,
jalbrin,
02-Feb-13 02:53 PM, #103
RE: Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduc...,
orangepowered,
04-Feb-13 10:49 AM #104
A couple things.,
TMNS,
04-Feb-13 01:39 PM, #105
RE: A couple things.,
orangepowered,
04-Feb-13 05:31 PM, #107
Wrap Up,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:50 PM, #87
RE: Wrap Up,
Daevryn,
26-Jan-13 01:04 AM, #88
Heal and run is unsatisfying,
Valkenar,
28-Jan-13 09:54 PM, #99
RE: Heal and run is unsatisfying,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-13 10:45 PM, #101
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Malakhi,
24-Jan-13 10:00 PM, #35
Time investment and luck,
Artificial,
25-Jan-13 01:15 AM, #36
RE: Time investment and luck,
Illanthos,
25-Jan-13 11:13 AM, #43
It can be that bad,
incognito,
25-Jan-13 12:04 PM, #44
You don't need barrier to pk.,
Tesline,
28-Jan-13 12:40 PM, #97
If you're an obligate limited black necro/ap,
Artificial,
25-Jan-13 01:28 PM, #48
RE: If you're an obligate limited black necro/ap,
Illanthos,
25-Jan-13 02:00 PM, #52
don't agree with much of this,
incognito,
25-Jan-13 07:33 PM, #79
hard is a relative term,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 11:00 PM, #84
RE: hard is a relative term,
Illanthos,
26-Jan-13 01:28 AM, #89
stick a tampon in it,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 02:17 PM, #55
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Isildur,
25-Jan-13 08:19 AM, #37
A stupid suggestion that would solve this and above com...,
Tac,
25-Jan-13 10:00 AM, #39
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Marcus_,
25-Jan-13 10:04 AM, #40
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 09:52 AM, #38
Some ways for Nexus to dominate Battle,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 10:07 AM, #41
RE: Some ways for Nexus to dominate Battle,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:41 PM, #61
you aren't understanding what is being said,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 04:14 PM, #62
That's exactly it.,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 04:45 PM, #66
RE: That's exactly it.,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:09 PM, #68
The point continues to elude you.,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 05:14 PM, #71
RE: The point continues to elude you.,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:15 PM, #72
I'll take a stab at it:,
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:46 PM, #82
RE: I'll take a stab at it:,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:36 PM, #85
Some thoughts,
lasentia,
25-Jan-13 12:16 PM, #47
RE: Some thoughts,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:36 PM, #59
you do know that parry/dodge > dam redux for dealing wi...,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 04:15 PM, #63
RE: you do know that parry/dodge > dam redux for dealin...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 04:30 PM, #64
On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the worst.,
TMNS,
25-Jan-13 01:45 PM, #50
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 02:51 PM, #56
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 03:07 PM, #58
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:40 PM, #60
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 04:33 PM, #65
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:08 PM, #67
You are assuming a bunch of things here and heavily ove...,
Amberion,
25-Jan-13 05:10 PM, #69
RE: You are assuming a bunch of things here and heavily...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:12 PM, #70
Well, like this:,
Amberion,
25-Jan-13 05:29 PM, #74
Thanks, super appreciated (n/t),
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:36 PM, #76
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:08 PM, #81
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:39 PM, #86
Only chars I play that "farm gold" are imperials...,
Amberion,
26-Jan-13 03:35 AM, #90
For the record,
Marcus_,
23-Jan-13 05:07 AM, #7
RE: For the record,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 09:33 AM, #13
RE: For the record,
Marcus_,
23-Jan-13 10:55 AM, #19
Cool, thanks for being reasonable. (n/t),
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 11:46 AM, #20
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Daevryn,
22-Jan-13 07:40 PM, #2
Yes, though not a RBW. (N/t),
orangepowered,
22-Jan-13 07:58 PM, #3
My experience with Krunk tells me RBW is hopelessy unde...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 09:07 AM, #9
I don't disagree with anything you said in the message,...,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 09:29 AM, #12
No, I'm pointing out your original post in a fallacy,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 10:19 AM, #17
RE: No, I'm pointing out your original post in a fallac...,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 10:22 AM, #18
You are doing something wrong.,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 02:31 PM, #25
RE: You are doing something wrong.,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 04:21 PM, #29
That is exactly what the first paragraph is saying...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 05:59 PM, #30
RE: That is exactly what the first paragraph is saying....,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 06:07 PM, #31
In Nabig's logs there's a mention of how underpowered d...,
highbutterfly,
24-Jan-13 03:05 AM, #32
The problem with this...,
Homard,
22-Jan-13 07:06 PM, #1
RE: The problem with this...,
Isildur,
22-Jan-13 07:59 PM, #4
That's not what I'm saying at all.,
Homard,
22-Jan-13 08:59 PM, #5
RE: That's not what I'm saying at all.,
Isildur,
23-Jan-13 08:29 AM, #8
FWIW I find villagers (especially berserkers) the easie...,
TMNS,
23-Jan-13 04:18 PM, #28
this is all so silly,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 09:09 AM, #10
RE: this is all so silly,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 10:07 AM, #14
You are over generalizing a little,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 12:23 PM, #21
How are you outdamaging them?,
Valkenar,
24-Jan-13 03:22 PM, #33
RE: How are you outdamaging them?,
Daevryn,
24-Jan-13 09:59 PM, #34
The log from the log board.,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 10:37 AM, #42
umm one example doesn't change the fact that bashing/cr...,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 12:05 PM, #45
RE: umm one example doesn't change the fact that bashin...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 12:11 PM, #46
That log wasn't typical in one way, but was very typica...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 01:45 PM, #49
having played a lot of tough villagers,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 02:08 PM, #54
Aye. It gets much much better for villagers when they a...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 05:31 PM, #75
I would upvote this if it was that kind of forum (n/t),
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:03 PM, #80
This is why i'm still a newb after many years of CF,
vorian,
27-Jan-13 11:17 AM, #93
RE: This is why i'm still a newb after many years of CF,
Daevryn,
27-Jan-13 11:39 AM, #94
With Eryndiahl ,
CD,
27-Jan-13 11:58 AM, #95
not that highly limited,
laxman,
28-Jan-13 10:00 AM, #96
I see, but ...,
vorian,
28-Jan-13 08:21 PM, #98
hitroll has virtually no value for a hero range warrior,
laxman,
29-Jan-13 05:12 PM, #102
RE: not that highly limited,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-13 10:41 PM, #100
Couldn't have said it better myself. NT,
TMNS,
04-Feb-13 01:42 PM, #106
RE: That log wasn't typical in one way, but was very ty...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 03:04 PM, #57
I am saying that berserker's powers don't need to have ...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 05:25 PM, #73
RE: I am saying that berserker's powers don't need to h...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 06:46 PM, #77
And why should ANY POWERS help against textbook kills?,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 07:27 PM, #78
you assume it was just db,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 10:53 PM, #83
Here's a better (set) of logs.,
TMNS,
25-Jan-13 01:53 PM, #51
Man do berserkers love ganging this guy outside of raid...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 02:02 PM, #53
RE: The problem with this...,
highbutterfly,
23-Jan-13 02:02 AM, #6
they can end the war you know,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 09:12 AM, #11
My experience is that villagers won't end a war,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 10:16 AM, #16
having been in many village wars thats bull,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 12:27 PM, #22
I reluctantly agree...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 02:31 PM, #26
RE: they can end the war you know,
Isildur,
23-Jan-13 12:31 PM, #23
you assume that having a mage leader is why they are at...,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 01:39 PM, #24
It would not be typical Maran RP,
Humbert,
23-Jan-13 04:13 PM, #27
The Village/Fort War is an unusual state of affairs.,
Homard,
23-Jan-13 10:15 AM, #15
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