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ScrimbulWed 04-Jul-12 07:03 PM
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#46312, "10 affinity"
Edited on Wed 04-Jul-12 07:11 PM

  

          

Means the spell you are thinking of using should be perfected before you even consider this.

Daevryn isn't saying it happens 24/7 as a lowbie invoker, he is saying that when you are fighting an invoker the amount of commands it takes to win/survive the fight for both sides allows for an extremely low margin of error. It is your responsibility therefore to perfect your damage spells (which will always 9 times out of 10 happen faster than some idiot at mist wraiths at level 15 if you put any sort of effort into it with a 23+ int character.)

A conjurer at level 27 kills people the same way an invoker does, the trick is to not tackle the first rager or village applicant you see who is ALSO hunting for free kills, with your crappy regear. You kill whoever got a lucky pit loot and work your way up slowly until you can nuke the other career lowbie playerkillers.

Finally, Daevryn won't say it outright but this will only work on a certain set of targets that slowly expands dependent on your gear, available damage reduction and whether you can squeeze a rescue in between a missed bash to extend the length of the fight by 1 or 2 commands.

The counter to this exact tactic against invokers and muters is wearing between -20 and -30 svs spell and keeping enough gold on hand to heal. Then roflstomp them as normally. When you are below 40, people with more than -20 svs spell are exceedingly rare (I myself have probably been zapped by Daevryn before, and I was probably one of the individuals with a return potion and a minimum of -15). It's the same reason transmuters can use neuro at all on the majority of the population, svs paralysis simply isn't a consideration for the vast majority of the population. There's too many other straight laggers to gear for it.

  

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HOT TopicTrip/Bash...lag moves [View all] , The Heretic, Mon 02-Jul-12 02:31 PM
Reply I quasi-regularly get tooled by lag (like most of us)., Homard, 02-Jul-12 03:10 PM, #1
     Reply An addition, Tsunami, 02-Jul-12 03:27 PM, #2
          Reply A double-edges sword, The Heretic, 02-Jul-12 05:18 PM, #3
               Reply Too simple, Tsunami, 02-Jul-12 05:36 PM, #4
               Reply I'm not worried about lowbie mages..., The Heretic, 02-Jul-12 08:51 PM, #5
                    Reply ah, I see., Tsunami, 02-Jul-12 11:26 PM, #6
               Reply RE: A double-edges sword, GoTeamUnderdog, 03-Jul-12 02:43 AM, #7
                    Reply I have to disagree, lasentia, 03-Jul-12 07:52 AM, #8
                         Reply RE: I have to disagree, KrunkTheOrc (Anonymous), 03-Jul-12 08:53 AM, #9
                         Reply One command?, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 09:24 AM, #10
                         Reply So you wait for echos to land when fighting a bard?, KrunkTheOrc (Anonymous), 03-Jul-12 10:01 AM, #12
                              Reply RE: So you wait for echos to land when fighting a bard?, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 10:19 AM, #14
                                   Reply RE: So you wait for echos to land when fighting a bard?, Daevryn, 03-Jul-12 10:25 AM, #15
                                        Reply Chance?, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 10:32 AM, #16
                                             Reply RE: Chance?, Daevryn, 03-Jul-12 12:09 PM, #19
                                                  Reply RE: Chance?, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 01:25 PM, #21
                                                       Reply RE: Chance?, GoTeamUnderdog, 03-Jul-12 01:30 PM, #22
                                                       Reply RE: Chance?, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 01:56 PM, #23
                                                       Reply RE: Chance?, Daevryn, 03-Jul-12 02:03 PM, #24
                                                            Reply No chance, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 02:23 PM, #25
                                                                 Reply Are you talking straight melee with no commands entered..., Homard, 03-Jul-12 02:32 PM, #26
                                                                 Reply Decent warrior, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 02:42 PM, #28
                                                                 Reply Incorrect, Tsunami, 03-Jul-12 02:41 PM, #27
                                                                 Reply Run the numbers, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 02:45 PM, #29
                                                                      Reply And roll for initiative..., The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 02:48 PM, #30
                                                                           Reply I've played both, Tsunami, 03-Jul-12 03:00 PM, #31
                                                                           Reply Are you aware there isn't an initiative roll in the gam..., Alston, 06-Jul-12 09:43 PM, #50
                                                                           Reply RE: Are you aware there isn't an initiative roll in the..., Daevryn, 06-Jul-12 10:06 PM, #51
                                                                           Reply Unless you are me. When I surprise people, Alston, 07-Jul-12 07:49 AM, #52
                                                                 Reply RE: No chance, Daevryn, 03-Jul-12 03:13 PM, #32
                                                                      Reply Invokers are OP, The Heretic, 03-Jul-12 03:53 PM, #33
                                                                           Reply Complete command denial., Homard, 03-Jul-12 04:16 PM, #34
                                                                           Reply RE: Complete command denial., The Heretic, 04-Jul-12 08:09 AM, #39
                                                                           Reply What are you thinking needs to be done., Homard, 04-Jul-12 09:07 AM, #40
                                                                           Reply That's fair,, Tsunami, 04-Jul-12 01:51 PM, #44
                         Reply Krunk is a fine example., lasentia, 03-Jul-12 09:25 AM, #11
                              Reply My last since Krunk is still an active char..., KrunkTheOrc (Anonymous), 03-Jul-12 10:13 AM, #13
                                   Reply Fair enough, lasentia, 03-Jul-12 10:58 AM, #17
                         Reply RE: I have to disagree, GoTeamUnderdog, 03-Jul-12 11:10 AM, #18
                              Reply RE: I have to disagree, Daevryn, 03-Jul-12 12:16 PM, #20
                              Reply So baffld, Valkenar, 03-Jul-12 08:33 PM, #35
                              Reply I agree with this. I'm confused., Zephon, 03-Jul-12 09:25 PM, #36
                              Reply It's a numbers game, spend 40 hours at rank 20, laxman, 03-Jul-12 11:28 PM, #37
                              Reply Explanation, GoTeamUnderdog, 03-Jul-12 11:45 PM, #38
                              Reply Elf or dark-elf, Tsunami, 04-Jul-12 01:58 PM, #45
                              Reply RE: So baffld, Daevryn, 04-Jul-12 09:11 AM, #41
                                   Reply Every time I try this, Artificial, 04-Jul-12 09:57 AM, #42
                                   Reply 10 affinity, Scrimbul, 04-Jul-12 07:11 PM #46
                                   Reply I can see it, TJHuron, 04-Jul-12 10:27 AM, #43
                              Reply I do this on occassion..., Akresius, 05-Jul-12 09:10 AM, #47
                                   Reply Me too :) I had an arial invoker recently..., TMNS, 05-Jul-12 01:52 PM, #49
                              Reply Cranial killed me more than bash, but yeah...., TMNS, 05-Jul-12 01:50 PM, #48
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