GoTeamUnderdog | Tue 03-Jul-12 02:21 AM |
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#46270, "RE: A double-edges sword"
Edited on Tue 03-Jul-12 02:43 AM
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Just a slight observation, fair warning I've only skimmed the top half of the post(s).
If bash didn't do command denial but instead did flee denial, or did a lesser form of command denial.
As almost any warrior, I'd legitimately be (seriously) scared of muters/invokers at every rank, and I mean every rank.
Lvl 20? Scared. Lvl 25? Really Scared.
And so on.
EDIT: Further thoughts on melee class interactions using the command/flee denial(I read the first post in detail)
Assassins are going to trump a lot of warriors most of the time if this change were to go through. I can't command deny an assassin? His defenses are good enough that it's only a matter of time before he gets a crippling kans/kote, despite my bashing.
Any martial class with a short lag damage skill (backhand/Sstrike/jab/sucker punch) becomes a lot better, if I'm reading you right.
As is stands now a lot of command denial is necessary in fights where you're winning in the round to round combat, but if your opponent were to get combat moves in, you're losing.
Just think of a polearm spec giant. Your bread and butter is complete command denial and flee denial while your polearm protects you and whittles them down so you can put down the kill-sealing chop. If your bash isn't effectively command denying them, a sword spec is going to eat you alive if he gets commands in. Ditto with an axe spec. Or a mace spec. Or any other spec, really. Not to mention the horror of fighting an assassin as said polearm spec.
And dear god. If I were an evil I wouldn't even touch Paladins. If they can even semi-occasionally get attack commands in (co wrath) through bash spam...ouch. Duergar warriors would be a thing of the past.
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Trip/Bash...lag moves
[View all] , The Heretic, Mon 02-Jul-12 02:31 PM
I quasi-regularly get tooled by lag (like most of us).,
Homard,
02-Jul-12 03:10 PM, #1
An addition,
Tsunami,
02-Jul-12 03:27 PM, #2
A double-edges sword,
The Heretic,
02-Jul-12 05:18 PM, #3
Too simple,
Tsunami,
02-Jul-12 05:36 PM, #4
I'm not worried about lowbie mages...,
The Heretic,
02-Jul-12 08:51 PM, #5
ah, I see.,
Tsunami,
02-Jul-12 11:26 PM, #6
RE: A double-edges sword,
GoTeamUnderdog,
03-Jul-12 02:43 AM #7
I have to disagree,
lasentia,
03-Jul-12 07:52 AM, #8
RE: I have to disagree,
KrunkTheOrc (Anonymous),
03-Jul-12 08:53 AM, #9
One command?,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 09:24 AM, #10
So you wait for echos to land when fighting a bard?,
KrunkTheOrc (Anonymous),
03-Jul-12 10:01 AM, #12
RE: So you wait for echos to land when fighting a bard?,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 10:19 AM, #14
RE: So you wait for echos to land when fighting a bard?,
Daevryn,
03-Jul-12 10:25 AM, #15
Chance?,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 10:32 AM, #16
RE: Chance?,
Daevryn,
03-Jul-12 12:09 PM, #19
RE: Chance?,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 01:25 PM, #21
RE: Chance?,
GoTeamUnderdog,
03-Jul-12 01:30 PM, #22
RE: Chance?,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 01:56 PM, #23
RE: Chance?,
Daevryn,
03-Jul-12 02:03 PM, #24
No chance,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 02:23 PM, #25
Are you talking straight melee with no commands entered...,
Homard,
03-Jul-12 02:32 PM, #26
Decent warrior,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 02:42 PM, #28
Incorrect,
Tsunami,
03-Jul-12 02:41 PM, #27
Run the numbers,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 02:45 PM, #29
And roll for initiative...,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 02:48 PM, #30
I've played both,
Tsunami,
03-Jul-12 03:00 PM, #31
Are you aware there isn't an initiative roll in the gam...,
Alston,
06-Jul-12 09:43 PM, #50
RE: Are you aware there isn't an initiative roll in the...,
Daevryn,
06-Jul-12 10:06 PM, #51
Unless you are me. When I surprise people,
Alston,
07-Jul-12 07:49 AM, #52
RE: No chance,
Daevryn,
03-Jul-12 03:13 PM, #32
Invokers are OP,
The Heretic,
03-Jul-12 03:53 PM, #33
Complete command denial.,
Homard,
03-Jul-12 04:16 PM, #34
RE: Complete command denial.,
The Heretic,
04-Jul-12 08:09 AM, #39
What are you thinking needs to be done.,
Homard,
04-Jul-12 09:07 AM, #40
That's fair,,
Tsunami,
04-Jul-12 01:51 PM, #44
Krunk is a fine example.,
lasentia,
03-Jul-12 09:25 AM, #11
My last since Krunk is still an active char...,
KrunkTheOrc (Anonymous),
03-Jul-12 10:13 AM, #13
Fair enough,
lasentia,
03-Jul-12 10:58 AM, #17
RE: I have to disagree,
GoTeamUnderdog,
03-Jul-12 11:10 AM, #18
RE: I have to disagree,
Daevryn,
03-Jul-12 12:16 PM, #20
So baffld,
Valkenar,
03-Jul-12 08:33 PM, #35
I agree with this. I'm confused.,
Zephon,
03-Jul-12 09:25 PM, #36
It's a numbers game, spend 40 hours at rank 20,
laxman,
03-Jul-12 11:28 PM, #37
Explanation,
GoTeamUnderdog,
03-Jul-12 11:45 PM, #38
Elf or dark-elf,
Tsunami,
04-Jul-12 01:58 PM, #45
RE: So baffld,
Daevryn,
04-Jul-12 09:11 AM, #41
Every time I try this,
Artificial,
04-Jul-12 09:57 AM, #42
10 affinity,
Scrimbul,
04-Jul-12 07:11 PM, #46
I can see it,
TJHuron,
04-Jul-12 10:27 AM, #43
I do this on occassion...,
Akresius,
05-Jul-12 09:10 AM, #47
Me too :) I had an arial invoker recently...,
TMNS,
05-Jul-12 01:52 PM, #49
Cranial killed me more than bash, but yeah....,
TMNS,
05-Jul-12 01:50 PM, #48
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