Valkenar | Fri 16-Sep-11 06:19 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1203 posts
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#40191, "Your answer was fine"
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>Valeknar specifically asked me why I thought tells were >verbal. I told him.
Yeah, it was pretty dumb of me to not immediately think of deafness. I don't think that sleep has anything to do with it though, since group chat does work despite unconsciousness.
In point of fact, I really dislike emotes in tells either, but I don't think that tells are so well-defined that you can say that they're categorically invalid.
>The fact that tells don't work while deaf is clear-cut proof >that tells require hearing to work, isn't it?
Not really. There are a lot of vague approximations in this game and how the various forms of deafness work is one. I do agree that tells are mostly auditory, but I think it's a mistake to pretend like there isn't more to it than purely sonic mechanisms.
To use logic similar to your own, doesn't the fact that you know whether they're able to hear you, and sometimes why (because of deafness or sleeping, or being in Organia) show that there's more to it than sound alone? If it was just sound you wouldn't get that feedback. And you can't have it both ways and say that those things are just side-effects of technical limitations but the rest of the stuff you cited isn't.
I'll take back that tells could have a visual component, but I'd still argue that they have a mental-link component, and an empty or, uh, elliptical (?) tell is perfectly logical within the context of the game and has meaning.
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So I bahleted Voth.
[View all] , Voth (Anonymous), Tue 13-Sep-11 03:02 PM
What title did you get?nt,
Artificial,
13-Sep-11 04:51 PM, #1
This.,
Alston,
13-Sep-11 10:49 PM, #2
Dude, that's nothing.,
TMNS,
13-Sep-11 11:03 PM, #3
Didn't you play Jindicho who melted on here with a wall...,
Oldril,
17-Sep-11 12:05 AM, #54
you mad bro? nt,
Artificial,
17-Sep-11 12:12 AM, #56
keep stalkin bro,
Oldril,
17-Sep-11 12:20 AM, #57
y u mad tho? nt,
Artificial,
17-Sep-11 12:33 AM, #58
This isn't dio's, dude.,
Rayihn,
17-Sep-11 06:11 AM, #60
Are you irritated? n/t,
Lhydia,
22-Sep-11 03:45 PM, #69
You're kind of a douche. NT,
TMNS,
17-Sep-11 01:13 AM, #59
What a pansy.,
Artificial,
13-Sep-11 11:05 PM, #4
Stupid,
Explosion,
14-Sep-11 02:31 AM, #5
Any title is a perk.,
lasentia,
14-Sep-11 07:34 AM, #6
The Pray:,
Rayihn,
14-Sep-11 08:02 AM, #7
Don't worry, I won't do it again. n/t,
Alston,
14-Sep-11 08:15 AM, #9
Huh? That was a fun prayer and a fun title response,
MoetEtChandon,
14-Sep-11 12:07 PM, #25
Yes it was and no it wasnt. n/t,
Alston,
15-Sep-11 06:26 PM, #38
I'd have titled him for *night laugh*.,
lasentia,
15-Sep-11 10:09 AM, #29
"That made me laugh",
Java,
15-Sep-11 11:41 AM, #31
I'm pretty much in agreement.,
lasentia,
15-Sep-11 01:55 PM, #32
RE: "...",
TheDude,
15-Sep-11 02:37 PM, #33
I'd bet,
Tsunami,
15-Sep-11 04:35 PM, #34
Correct.,
Java,
15-Sep-11 04:53 PM, #35
I do that to denote a "Beat" or pause in response to so...,
Alston,
15-Sep-11 05:24 PM, #36
RE: I do that to denote a ,
Java,
16-Sep-11 04:46 AM, #43
Where are you getting that?,
Valkenar,
16-Sep-11 07:14 AM, #45
RE: Where are you getting that?,
Java,
16-Sep-11 07:44 AM, #46
I'm actually ...'d by your take on this.,
Alston,
16-Sep-11 05:02 PM, #48
Huh?,
Java,
16-Sep-11 05:30 PM, #49
It's not clear cut proof.,
Alston,
16-Sep-11 05:43 PM, #50
Have you ever had to deal with it in game?,
Java,
16-Sep-11 06:14 PM, #51
Your answer was fine,
Valkenar,
16-Sep-11 06:19 PM #52
RE: Your answer was fine,
Bajula,
16-Sep-11 06:43 PM, #53
RE: smiling & tells,
Quixotic,
17-Sep-11 07:51 AM, #61
You can "hear" a lack of sound,
incognito,
17-Sep-11 05:18 PM, #63
I really like that actually,
Valkenar,
15-Sep-11 07:08 PM, #41
I'm guilty of using this too,
Rayihn,
15-Sep-11 07:55 PM, #42
Question...,
Oldril,
17-Sep-11 12:10 AM, #55
I just don't think that way.,
Alston,
14-Sep-11 08:22 AM, #8
If you don't want something, don't ask for it. (n/t),
Daevryn,
14-Sep-11 08:19 AM, #10
You two are married, I get it.,
Alston,
14-Sep-11 08:33 AM, #11
RE: You two are married, I get it.,
Daevryn,
14-Sep-11 08:49 AM, #12
Because the title said.,
Alston,
14-Sep-11 08:56 AM, #14
If I may...,
Bajula,
14-Sep-11 11:42 AM, #24
RE: You two are married, I get it.,
Isildur,
14-Sep-11 09:21 AM, #18
This is the best response to my thread yet.,
Alston,
15-Sep-11 06:28 PM, #39
Second Aside:,
Daevryn,
14-Sep-11 08:50 AM, #13
Fair enough! :) n/t,
Alston,
14-Sep-11 08:56 AM, #15
Pretend, for a moment...,
Nreykre,
14-Sep-11 08:57 AM, #16
That would have been fun and IC.,
Alston,
14-Sep-11 09:26 AM, #19
RE: That would have been fun and IC.,
Nreykre,
14-Sep-11 10:01 AM, #20
Except the title was an OOC barb. ,
Alston,
15-Sep-11 06:25 PM, #37
Again, persecution complex. nt ,
Artificial,
15-Sep-11 06:53 PM, #40
I think you have a persecution complex,
Artificial,
14-Sep-11 10:11 AM, #21
Man, you remind me of Pro. But seriously...,
TMNS,
14-Sep-11 12:35 PM, #26
RE: Man, you remind me of Pro. But seriously...,
Daevryn,
14-Sep-11 03:29 PM, #27
marked as a ####wad,
Scarabaeus,
14-Sep-11 09:04 AM, #17
RE: marked as a ####wad,
Daevryn,
14-Sep-11 10:15 AM, #22
don't look at me, I'm hideous!,
Scarabaeus,
14-Sep-11 10:24 AM, #23
All wains and bairns are crabbit. It's the nature of th...,
Abernyte,
15-Sep-11 10:05 AM, #28
with groaning trencher...,
Scarabaeus,
15-Sep-11 11:33 AM, #30
I hope it was a good single malt!,
Abernyte,
16-Sep-11 05:50 AM, #44
I only drank good, single malt whisky,
Scarabaeus,
16-Sep-11 02:46 PM, #47
That is a shame,
Abernyte,
17-Sep-11 09:45 AM, #62
RE: That is a shame,
Scarabaeus,
17-Sep-11 05:36 PM, #64
RE: That is a shame,
Abernyte,
17-Sep-11 05:43 PM, #65
RE: That is a shame,
The-me,
17-Sep-11 06:01 PM, #66
Heh, loved them all with the exception of Gloucester~,
Abernyte,
18-Sep-11 02:45 PM, #67
RE: That is a shame,
GrahamC,
22-Sep-11 02:46 PM, #68
Let me sing you a song about a .....,
The-me,
23-Sep-11 08:54 PM, #70
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