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_Magus_Tue 08-Jan-08 05:25 PM
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#20180, "The problem with this is..."


          

Yeah, sure, you can say sit back and relax all you want. You're an Imm and probably haven't spent three characters worth of time trying to get suitable forms. Hell, if you wanted, you could roll up a shifter, hit one of the other implementor's up on IM, and ask what your forms are before you ever even start. You aren't in the same position as the players are in this respect, so to say relax, isn't really a fair or justifiable response. But thanks for trying to make me look like an ass, despite my efforts to say I do greatly appreciate the effort put forth on this shapeshifter overhaul.

That said, why should this option wait? Obviously it is something which seems to be intentionally implemented at some point or another. I don't think an option like this would be available if the staff truly believe that, even post revamp, the forms are balanced across the board. They aren't. I just got finished playing my third one. I am not just blowing smoke up people's asses here. It is a well known fact that there are inferior forms. And maybe inferior isn't even the right choice of word. It's a matter of player preference and player suitability. When the forms are completely random, you are forced as a player, to adjust to something you may not even want to play. You may be forced to adjust to a particular play style that doesn't fit your role. The list goes on.

So why not make this option available ahead of schedule, and give current or aspiring shapeshifters something to look forward to?

I admit that I was consumed by the allure of the shapeshifter revamp, thinking that the forms were going to be well rounded and well balanced. But after playing them, I've realized I don't like to be forced to play a certain way. I know that I, and probably others, would rather enjoy playing a shapeshifter, than putting up with being a shapeshifter. The class is cool. It's unique. But has serious limitations that no other class has to deal with. Unpredictability.

  

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HOT TopicLet shifters choose their forms [View all] , Dwoggurd, Mon 07-Jan-08 03:37 AM
Reply RE: Let shifters choose their forms, lumikant, 14-Jan-08 03:41 AM, #67
Reply RE: Let shifters choose their forms, Qaledus, 14-Jan-08 09:51 AM, #68
     Reply I think thats the first time an idea i've had wasn't sh..., lumikant, 14-Jan-08 04:43 PM, #69
Reply Randomness is good., Lightmage, 09-Jan-08 07:07 PM, #60
Reply Re: Quest Forms, Zulghinlour, 09-Jan-08 07:25 PM, #61
     Reply Put another rock in my crack pipe while you are at it....., Lightmage, 09-Jan-08 08:36 PM, #62
          Reply I shudder to think of the displacer now. nt, GinGa, 10-Jan-08 04:21 AM, #63
          Reply Too many rocks as is! Elemek dude, ELEMEK! *roll*, Abernyte, 10-Jan-08 04:34 AM, #64
Reply My biases against shapeshifters and their revamp, Quixotic, 09-Jan-08 05:42 PM, #58
Reply How about a compromise?, Mekantos, 09-Jan-08 05:35 PM, #57
Reply I'll add a little info about my own shifter thoughts an..., Mekantos, 09-Jan-08 05:50 PM, #59
Reply My take..., TheProphet, 09-Jan-08 09:56 AM, #41
Reply Minor correction, Dwoggurd, 09-Jan-08 10:37 AM, #42
     Reply I don't think it's a problem. That's the difference., TheProphet, 09-Jan-08 11:09 AM, #44
          Reply Powergaming and stuff, Dwoggurd, 09-Jan-08 11:14 AM, #45
               Reply RE: Powergaming and stuff, Daevryn, 09-Jan-08 11:28 AM, #46
               Reply Exactly, Dwoggurd, 09-Jan-08 12:19 PM, #49
               Reply Addiction, Dwoggurd, 09-Jan-08 12:58 PM, #50
               Reply RE: Powergaming and stuff, TheProphet, 09-Jan-08 11:47 AM, #47
                    Reply RE: Powergaming and stuff, Daevryn, 09-Jan-08 12:03 PM, #48
Reply RE: My thoughts on random forms..., Tac, 08-Jan-08 02:26 PM, #6
Reply Agree with everything you said, _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 03:06 PM, #7
     Reply RE: Agree with everything you said, Daevryn, 08-Jan-08 03:10 PM, #8
     Reply Always 5 steps behind you in this game..., Dragomir, 08-Jan-08 03:17 PM, #10
     Reply The problem with this is..., _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 05:25 PM #15
     Reply I believe Zulg said that option would not happen until...., Dragomir, 08-Jan-08 03:15 PM, #9
          Reply RE: I believe Zulg said that option would not happen un..., Daevryn, 08-Jan-08 03:20 PM, #12
               Reply I re-suggest it as a cheap shifter edge or every man's ..., DurNominator, 08-Jan-08 04:41 PM, #13
                    Reply RE: I re-suggest it as a cheap shifter edge or every ma..., Daevryn, 08-Jan-08 04:55 PM, #14
                         Reply RE: I re-suggest it as a cheap shifter edge or every ma..., DurNominator, 08-Jan-08 06:46 PM, #20
Reply RE: Let shifters choose their forms, Daevryn, 07-Jan-08 10:18 AM, #1
     Reply Hmm, Dwoggurd, 07-Jan-08 12:27 PM, #2
          Reply I personally have no interest in this..., Zulghinlour, 07-Jan-08 01:49 PM, #3
          Reply You know what, though?, _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 03:11 AM, #4
               Reply RE: You know what, though?, Zulghinlour, 08-Jan-08 12:30 PM, #5
          Reply RE: Hmm, Daevryn, 08-Jan-08 03:18 PM, #11
               Reply RE: Hmm, Tac, 08-Jan-08 05:26 PM, #16
               Reply Well said. Agree 100%. ~, _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 05:49 PM, #17
               Reply Damnit, stop that :P You aren't helping nt, Tac, 08-Jan-08 06:31 PM, #18
               Reply RE: Hmm, Daevryn, 08-Jan-08 08:16 PM, #21
                    Reply So every warrior and thief is a "winner." Gotcha. ~, _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 08:49 PM, #24
                         Reply I give., Daevryn, 08-Jan-08 09:20 PM, #25
                              Reply You know what I think the real problem is?, _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 09:31 PM, #26
                                   Reply I call ####, Zulghinlour, 08-Jan-08 11:22 PM, #27
                                   Reply RE: I call ####, _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 11:37 PM, #30
                                        Reply RE: I call ####, Zulghinlour, 09-Jan-08 12:37 AM, #32
                                   Reply RE: You know what I think the real problem is?, Qaledus, 08-Jan-08 11:23 PM, #29
                                        Reply But, Dwoggurd, 09-Jan-08 03:57 AM, #38
                                        Reply RE: But, Qaledus, 09-Jan-08 09:30 AM, #40
                                             Reply If we're going to be overdramatic just like the players..., Scrimbul, 09-Jan-08 01:06 PM, #51
                                                  Reply RE: If we're going to be overdramatic just like the pla..., Daevryn, 09-Jan-08 02:13 PM, #53
                                                  Reply RE: If we're going to be overdramatic just like the pla..., _Magus_, 09-Jan-08 02:22 PM, #55
                                                  Reply Let's be fair, ORB, 09-Jan-08 04:17 PM, #56
                                                  Reply RE: If we're going to be overdramatic just like the pla..., _Magus_, 09-Jan-08 02:19 PM, #54
                                        Reply RE: You know what I think the real problem is?, Elerosse, 09-Jan-08 01:13 PM, #52
                                        Reply This post is exactly how I feel too., napoleon, 11-Jan-08 06:55 PM, #65
               Reply Re, Dwoggurd, 08-Jan-08 06:32 PM, #19
                    Reply RE: Re, Daevryn, 08-Jan-08 08:17 PM, #22
                         Reply I'm not so sure..., _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 08:48 PM, #23
                              Reply I can make up statistics too (n/t), Zulghinlour, 08-Jan-08 11:23 PM, #28
                                   Reply How made up is this?, _Magus_, 08-Jan-08 11:43 PM, #31
                                        Reply Less so than the "guesstimates" you tossed out, Zulghinlour, 09-Jan-08 12:38 AM, #33
                                             Reply Heh, Dwoggurd, 09-Jan-08 01:07 AM, #34
                                                  Reply RE: Heh, Daevryn, 09-Jan-08 01:35 AM, #35
                                                       Reply Oh, and I'll add:, Daevryn, 09-Jan-08 01:40 AM, #36
                                                            Reply Hey man, Dwoggurd, 09-Jan-08 03:20 AM, #37
                                                                 Reply RE: Hey man, Valguarnera, 09-Jan-08 07:50 AM, #39
                                                                      Reply Anyway, Dwoggurd, 09-Jan-08 10:42 AM, #43
                                                                           Reply RE: Anyway, Eskelian, 12-Jan-08 01:37 AM, #66
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