_Magus_ | Tue 08-Jan-08 05:25 PM |
Member since 05th Dec 2006
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#20180, "The problem with this is..."
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Yeah, sure, you can say sit back and relax all you want. You're an Imm and probably haven't spent three characters worth of time trying to get suitable forms. Hell, if you wanted, you could roll up a shifter, hit one of the other implementor's up on IM, and ask what your forms are before you ever even start. You aren't in the same position as the players are in this respect, so to say relax, isn't really a fair or justifiable response. But thanks for trying to make me look like an ass, despite my efforts to say I do greatly appreciate the effort put forth on this shapeshifter overhaul.
That said, why should this option wait? Obviously it is something which seems to be intentionally implemented at some point or another. I don't think an option like this would be available if the staff truly believe that, even post revamp, the forms are balanced across the board. They aren't. I just got finished playing my third one. I am not just blowing smoke up people's asses here. It is a well known fact that there are inferior forms. And maybe inferior isn't even the right choice of word. It's a matter of player preference and player suitability. When the forms are completely random, you are forced as a player, to adjust to something you may not even want to play. You may be forced to adjust to a particular play style that doesn't fit your role. The list goes on.
So why not make this option available ahead of schedule, and give current or aspiring shapeshifters something to look forward to?
I admit that I was consumed by the allure of the shapeshifter revamp, thinking that the forms were going to be well rounded and well balanced. But after playing them, I've realized I don't like to be forced to play a certain way. I know that I, and probably others, would rather enjoy playing a shapeshifter, than putting up with being a shapeshifter. The class is cool. It's unique. But has serious limitations that no other class has to deal with. Unpredictability.
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Let shifters choose their forms
[View all] , Dwoggurd, Mon 07-Jan-08 03:37 AM
RE: Let shifters choose their forms,
lumikant,
14-Jan-08 03:41 AM, #67
RE: Let shifters choose their forms,
Qaledus,
14-Jan-08 09:51 AM, #68
I think thats the first time an idea i've had wasn't sh...,
lumikant,
14-Jan-08 04:43 PM, #69
Randomness is good.,
Lightmage,
09-Jan-08 07:07 PM, #60
Re: Quest Forms,
Zulghinlour,
09-Jan-08 07:25 PM, #61
Put another rock in my crack pipe while you are at it.....,
Lightmage,
09-Jan-08 08:36 PM, #62
I shudder to think of the displacer now. nt,
GinGa,
10-Jan-08 04:21 AM, #63
Too many rocks as is! Elemek dude, ELEMEK! *roll*,
Abernyte,
10-Jan-08 04:34 AM, #64
My biases against shapeshifters and their revamp,
Quixotic,
09-Jan-08 05:42 PM, #58
How about a compromise?,
Mekantos,
09-Jan-08 05:35 PM, #57
I'll add a little info about my own shifter thoughts an...,
Mekantos,
09-Jan-08 05:50 PM, #59
My take...,
TheProphet,
09-Jan-08 09:56 AM, #41
Minor correction,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jan-08 10:37 AM, #42
I don't think it's a problem. That's the difference.,
TheProphet,
09-Jan-08 11:09 AM, #44
Powergaming and stuff,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jan-08 11:14 AM, #45
RE: Powergaming and stuff,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-08 11:28 AM, #46
Exactly,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jan-08 12:19 PM, #49
Addiction,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jan-08 12:58 PM, #50
RE: Powergaming and stuff,
TheProphet,
09-Jan-08 11:47 AM, #47
RE: Powergaming and stuff,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-08 12:03 PM, #48
RE: My thoughts on random forms...,
Tac,
08-Jan-08 02:26 PM, #6
Agree with everything you said,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 03:06 PM, #7
RE: Agree with everything you said,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-08 03:10 PM, #8
Always 5 steps behind you in this game...,
Dragomir,
08-Jan-08 03:17 PM, #10
The problem with this is...,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 05:25 PM #15
I believe Zulg said that option would not happen until....,
Dragomir,
08-Jan-08 03:15 PM, #9
RE: I believe Zulg said that option would not happen un...,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-08 03:20 PM, #12
I re-suggest it as a cheap shifter edge or every man's ...,
DurNominator,
08-Jan-08 04:41 PM, #13
RE: I re-suggest it as a cheap shifter edge or every ma...,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-08 04:55 PM, #14
RE: I re-suggest it as a cheap shifter edge or every ma...,
DurNominator,
08-Jan-08 06:46 PM, #20
RE: Let shifters choose their forms,
Daevryn,
07-Jan-08 10:18 AM, #1
Hmm,
Dwoggurd,
07-Jan-08 12:27 PM, #2
I personally have no interest in this...,
Zulghinlour,
07-Jan-08 01:49 PM, #3
You know what, though?,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 03:11 AM, #4
RE: You know what, though?,
Zulghinlour,
08-Jan-08 12:30 PM, #5
RE: Hmm,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-08 03:18 PM, #11
RE: Hmm,
Tac,
08-Jan-08 05:26 PM, #16
Well said. Agree 100%. ~,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 05:49 PM, #17
Damnit, stop that :P You aren't helping nt,
Tac,
08-Jan-08 06:31 PM, #18
RE: Hmm,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-08 08:16 PM, #21
So every warrior and thief is a "winner." Gotcha. ~,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 08:49 PM, #24
I give.,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-08 09:20 PM, #25
You know what I think the real problem is?,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 09:31 PM, #26
I call ####,
Zulghinlour,
08-Jan-08 11:22 PM, #27
RE: I call ####,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 11:37 PM, #30
RE: I call ####,
Zulghinlour,
09-Jan-08 12:37 AM, #32
RE: You know what I think the real problem is?,
Qaledus,
08-Jan-08 11:23 PM, #29
But,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jan-08 03:57 AM, #38
RE: But,
Qaledus,
09-Jan-08 09:30 AM, #40
If we're going to be overdramatic just like the players...,
Scrimbul,
09-Jan-08 01:06 PM, #51
RE: If we're going to be overdramatic just like the pla...,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-08 02:13 PM, #53
RE: If we're going to be overdramatic just like the pla...,
_Magus_,
09-Jan-08 02:22 PM, #55
Let's be fair,
ORB,
09-Jan-08 04:17 PM, #56
RE: If we're going to be overdramatic just like the pla...,
_Magus_,
09-Jan-08 02:19 PM, #54
RE: You know what I think the real problem is?,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-08 01:13 PM, #52
This post is exactly how I feel too.,
napoleon,
11-Jan-08 06:55 PM, #65
Re,
Dwoggurd,
08-Jan-08 06:32 PM, #19
RE: Re,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-08 08:17 PM, #22
I'm not so sure...,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 08:48 PM, #23
I can make up statistics too (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
08-Jan-08 11:23 PM, #28
How made up is this?,
_Magus_,
08-Jan-08 11:43 PM, #31
Less so than the "guesstimates" you tossed out,
Zulghinlour,
09-Jan-08 12:38 AM, #33
Heh,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jan-08 01:07 AM, #34
RE: Heh,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-08 01:35 AM, #35
Oh, and I'll add:,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-08 01:40 AM, #36
Hey man,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jan-08 03:20 AM, #37
RE: Hey man,
Valguarnera,
09-Jan-08 07:50 AM, #39
Anyway,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jan-08 10:42 AM, #43
RE: Anyway,
Eskelian,
12-Jan-08 01:37 AM, #66
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