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ValguarneraThu 14-Dec-06 01:51 PM
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#15596, "I think you're a good counterexample."


          

Now, we haven't always been the best of friends, Mr. Graatch. I think you're somewhat Battle-centric, but you don't see me posting stuff like "Graatch doesn't understand how CF works." If I did, I would get dogpiled by other players, even the ones who aren't the best of friends with you. CF's been around a log time, and people know who you are and what you're about.

I further recognize that having Battle-centric players is useful because they they're the canary in the coal mine if we change something that has a disproportionate negative impact on Battle. When we make that change, some sort of Bat-signal goes off over NYC, an emergency phone chain is activated, and you and Thinhallen and Abernyte and whoever else appear out of the (Eastern Road) woodwork and make sure Battle's still viable. I come in with some idea that you guys know what "viable" means in practice most of the time, and it often matches what we see in our statistics and what the game-balance-hawks on staff are telling me. I have some feeling that I'm speaking more with a lobbyist than a judge, but at least it's a sane lobbyist.

Credibility matters. Most arguments over CF aren't over black and white issues, but involve shades of gray like "too difficult", "too time-consuming", "underpowered", and the like. Rookies and veterans both use those phrases, but the latter are more likely to use it in a proper context.

I think Pro just plain doesn't understand how CF works. I'd honestly take advice from a 1st-day newbie before I took advice from someone that has done that much to convince me he has no clue how it works.

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HOT Locked TopicTeleportation [View all] , Nivek1, Wed 13-Dec-06 07:57 PM
Reply Locked on account of dogpiling. (n/t), Valguarnera, 18-Dec-06 09:59 AM, #73
Reply Nonsense., Eskelian, 15-Dec-06 01:19 AM, #58
Reply I demand Kaubris's teleport in replacement, Tac, 14-Dec-06 04:17 PM, #46
Reply I think you missed the point of this change., Scrimbul, 14-Dec-06 04:52 PM, #47
     Reply Oh I don't actually care..., Tac, 14-Dec-06 05:13 PM, #48
          Reply People have had them, Valkenar, 14-Dec-06 06:30 PM, #52
Reply I like this change, Valkenar, 14-Dec-06 11:35 AM, #32
Reply Additional suggestion, Marcus_, 14-Dec-06 07:19 AM, #23
Reply This is semi-true:, Daevryn, 14-Dec-06 08:27 AM, #24
     Reply I am! :) nt, Astillian, 14-Dec-06 02:00 PM, #38
          Reply Heh.. me too. Hollar!, Sebeok, 14-Dec-06 02:06 PM, #39
               Reply RE: Heh.. me too. Hollar!, terinth, 17-Dec-06 03:22 AM, #70
Reply RE: Teleportation, NNNick, 14-Dec-06 06:12 AM, #22
Reply I am now faced with walk and get assassinated or port a..., Abernyte, 14-Dec-06 06:04 AM, #21
Reply Heh, don't know about Nivek's minority...., Straklaw, 14-Dec-06 04:50 AM, #20
Reply There are no attractors., Valguarnera, 14-Dec-06 10:47 AM, #28
Reply I need a forum trigger., Valguarnera, 13-Dec-06 10:47 PM, #9
Reply You know..., Daevryn, 13-Dec-06 11:03 PM, #10
Reply RE: You know..., (NOT Pro), 14-Dec-06 01:29 AM, #14
Reply I wouldn't necessarily say that., TheLastMohican, 13-Dec-06 11:11 PM, #11
Reply Re: Time constraints:, Valguarnera, 13-Dec-06 11:36 PM, #13
Reply RE: I need a forum trigger., Nivek1, 13-Dec-06 11:20 PM, #12
Reply Well, well, well, TheDude, 13-Dec-06 08:53 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Well, well, well, Daevryn, 13-Dec-06 10:23 PM, #2
     Reply God for bid if you teleport into water!, (NOT Pro), 13-Dec-06 10:23 PM, #3
     Reply 99% sure you still can't. :P (n/t), Daevryn, 13-Dec-06 10:25 PM, #5
     Reply RE: Well, well, well, nebel, 13-Dec-06 10:24 PM, #4
     Reply What was wrong with having a spell, (NOT Pro), 13-Dec-06 10:33 PM, #6
          Reply RE: What was wrong with having a spell, Daevryn, 13-Dec-06 10:35 PM, #7
          Reply For what it's worth., (NOT Pro), 14-Dec-06 01:35 AM, #15
               Reply RE: For what it's worth., Daevryn, 14-Dec-06 01:53 AM, #17
               Reply Well then.., Sebeok, 14-Dec-06 10:41 AM, #26
               Reply RE: For what it's worth., (NOT Pro), 14-Dec-06 10:44 AM, #27
                    Reply RE: For what it's worth., Daevryn, 14-Dec-06 10:53 AM, #29
                    Reply And, hell, I'll elaborate on that., Daevryn, 14-Dec-06 11:01 AM, #31
                         Reply Wich still has nothing to do with my opinion, (NOT Pro), 14-Dec-06 12:58 PM, #34
                              Reply I think you're missing his point, Sebeok, 14-Dec-06 01:12 PM, #36
                              Reply You can be as angry as you like of course., (NOT Pro), 14-Dec-06 03:26 PM, #42
                                   Reply RE: You can be as angry as you like of course., Daevryn, 14-Dec-06 03:53 PM, #44
                                        Reply Why do you guys even bother arguing with Pro?, _Magus_, 14-Dec-06 06:12 PM, #51
                                        Reply RE: Why do you guys even bother arguing with Pro?, (NOT Pro), 15-Dec-06 01:18 AM, #57
                                        Reply I don't think you even know what I was saying originall..., (NOT Pro), 15-Dec-06 01:16 AM, #56
                                             Reply RE: I don't think you even know what I was saying origi..., Sebeok, 15-Dec-06 10:38 AM, #65
                                             Reply RE: I don't think you even know what I was saying origi..., Valkenar, 15-Dec-06 11:29 AM, #66
                                                  Reply Exactly., Daevryn, 15-Dec-06 11:54 AM, #67
                              Reply RE: Wich still has nothing to do with my opinion, BigJ, 14-Dec-06 06:41 PM, #53
                    Reply RE: For what it's worth., Valguarnera, 14-Dec-06 11:01 AM, #30
                         Reply WHAT?!?!, (NOT Graatch), 14-Dec-06 12:03 PM, #33
                         Reply I think you're a good counterexample., Valguarnera, 14-Dec-06 01:51 PM #37
                              Reply Stop it, you're making me blush., (NOT Graatch), 14-Dec-06 02:22 PM, #40
                              Reply What I'm confussed about., (NOT Pro), 14-Dec-06 03:31 PM, #43
                              Reply It isn't anti-Pro, it's anti-####tard, Tac, 14-Dec-06 04:15 PM, #45
                                   Reply This post rules too, _Magus_, 14-Dec-06 05:48 PM, #50
                                   Reply RE: This post rules too, (NOT Pro), 15-Dec-06 01:26 AM, #61
                                        Reply Emboldened?, _Magus_, 15-Dec-06 05:29 PM, #68
                                        Reply Pro: Please Help Yourself, vargal, 16-Dec-06 02:57 AM, #69
                                   Reply RE: It isn't anti-Pro, it's anti-####tard, (NOT Pro), 15-Dec-06 01:24 AM, #60
                              Reply This post rules. The Imm staff has always been on my A-..., _Magus_, 14-Dec-06 05:42 PM, #49
                         Reply Anonymous., (NOT Pro), 14-Dec-06 01:01 PM, #35
                              Reply RE: Anonymous., Valkenar, 14-Dec-06 07:00 PM, #54
                              Reply RE: Anonymous., (NOT Pro), 15-Dec-06 01:23 AM, #59
                              Reply RE: Anonymous., Rogue, 18-Dec-06 09:41 AM, #72
               Reply RE: For what it's worth., Mayaletha, 14-Dec-06 03:16 PM, #41
               Reply I'm not complaining about the changes to teleport., (NOT Pro), 15-Dec-06 01:30 AM, #62
                    Reply Like Nep said.., DurNominator, 15-Dec-06 09:38 AM, #64
               Reply This is a fine corner you've painted yourself into..., Wilhath, 14-Dec-06 07:07 PM, #55
               Reply RE: For what it's worth., DurNominator, 15-Dec-06 09:30 AM, #63
          Reply You don't read before you post do you?, Rogue, 18-Dec-06 09:26 AM, #71
     Reply Something in this I missed on the first pass..., Daevryn, 13-Dec-06 10:46 PM, #8
          Reply Ya mighta saved some heart ache, (NOT Pro), 14-Dec-06 01:36 AM, #16
          Reply Or you could figure it out?, GinGa, 14-Dec-06 03:15 AM, #18
               Reply RE: Or you could figure it out?, Daevryn, 14-Dec-06 08:30 AM, #25
          Reply Thanks for addressing our concerns a bit man, TheDude, 14-Dec-06 03:26 AM, #19
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