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nepentheFri 28-Jul-06 12:52 AM
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>2. They are the least versatile of all the mage classes.

Don't forget you still have some spells, wands, staves, scrolls, and all the tricks a humanoid character is capable of. It would be a stupid (or very intentionally role-hampered) shifter who regularly ran around trying to whip people in human form, but a well-played shifter will know when to make decisive use of it.

Consider that even offense/defense (probably the most boring shifter choice possible) can brandish a staff at a key moment or, much more frequently, revert and word away from any of many situations in the game that make fleeing difficult or impossible. A warrior has to burn a legacy to have even the poor man's version of that.

Versatility or lack thereof is a function of foci choice, too. A utility major has an excellent chance of having a good use for every form they have at hero. Defense/air, not so much. Not to say that every shifter should be a utility major, but if versatility is what you really want, maybe you should be.

>3. Not being able to speak is possibly the worst set back to
>any classes power. Ever.

It depends on the character. It means a lot less to, say, a Maran shifter, who shouldn't really get slept by necromancers and anti-paladins very much. It means nothing to a purely solo uncaballed character.

I'll readily agree, though, that it's much worse of a drawback than most players give it credit for.

>4. While their strengths/weaknesses vary with combo's, this
>remains true - Shifters have more vulnerabilities tactically
>than any other class.

I don't agree with this.

>Every single class out there bar healers, has the ability to
>cripple a shifter.

Eh. I don't necessarily agree with that; even when it's true, it generally comes at a painful opportunity cost. For example, maybe I can really screw you with a certain sequence of maledictions and insure you can't win if you stick around past round six, but I run out of hit points in round four.

  

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HOT TopicWhy not.. [View all] , Gaenlin, Wed 26-Jul-06 11:46 PM
Reply RE: Why not.., nepenthe, 27-Jul-06 10:45 AM, #7
Reply RE: Why not.., Grurk Muouk, 27-Jul-06 08:16 AM, #1
     Reply Not to agree with the poster..., Kamuela_, 27-Jul-06 08:33 AM, #2
          Reply RE: Not to agree with the poster..., Grurk Muouk, 27-Jul-06 08:47 AM, #3
               Reply RE: Not to agree with the poster..., Gaenlin, 27-Jul-06 09:09 AM, #4
               Reply Though they are weaker than any mage class..., Lightmage, 27-Jul-06 09:21 AM, #5
                    Reply I don't agree with that. (n/t), nepenthe, 27-Jul-06 10:43 AM, #6
                         Reply After my one time shifter experiment..., GinGa, 27-Jul-06 05:34 PM, #8
                              Reply RE: After my one time shifter experiment..., Alenysi, 27-Jul-06 06:41 PM, #9
                              Reply RE: After my one time shifter experiment..., nepenthe, 28-Jul-06 12:52 AM #10
                              Reply Something people would like..., GinGa, 28-Jul-06 04:13 AM, #11
                                   Reply Addendum., GinGa, 28-Jul-06 07:33 AM, #12
                                        Reply RE: Addendum., nepenthe, 28-Jul-06 08:16 AM, #13
                                             Reply I'm not looking to overpower., GinGa, 28-Jul-06 08:44 AM, #14
                                             Reply DASH? txt, Larcat, 28-Jul-06 09:05 AM, #15
                                             Reply RE: DASH? txt, nepenthe, 28-Jul-06 09:31 AM, #16
                                                  Reply Partly because of the syntax, incognito, 28-Jul-06 10:06 AM, #19
                                                  Reply Agreed TXT, Larcat, 28-Jul-06 11:15 AM, #20
                                                  Reply Lore isn't broken, Tac, 28-Jul-06 01:18 PM, #23
                                                       Reply RE: Lore isn't broken, nepenthe, 28-Jul-06 02:48 PM, #24
                                                       Reply I beleive the point of that post was different, Tac, 28-Jul-06 03:09 PM, #28
                                                       Reply RE: I beleive the point of that post was different, Karel, 28-Jul-06 03:24 PM, #31
                                                            Reply Fair point, Tac, 28-Jul-06 03:36 PM, #32
                                                                 Reply RE: Fair point, Karel, 28-Jul-06 03:38 PM, #34
                                                                      Reply Hardly..., Tac, 28-Jul-06 03:52 PM, #36
                                                                      Reply RE: Hardly..., Karel, 28-Jul-06 04:03 PM, #39
                                                                      Reply Well..., Tac, 28-Jul-06 04:44 PM, #43
                                                                      Reply RE: Well..., Karel, 28-Jul-06 05:01 PM, #45
                                                       Reply Haha! Classic! n/t, Sandello, 31-Jul-06 11:20 PM, #49
                                                       Reply Har Har /nt, Rodriguez, 02-Aug-06 09:06 AM, #50
                                                       Reply RE: Lore isn't broken, Karel, 28-Jul-06 02:49 PM, #25
                                                            Reply This post is near enough the truth., GinGa, 28-Jul-06 03:00 PM, #27
                                                            Reply RE: This post is near enough the truth., Karel, 28-Jul-06 03:20 PM, #29
                                                            Reply RE: This post is near enough the truth., nepenthe, 28-Jul-06 03:50 PM, #35
                                                                 Reply One shifter isn't fearsome., GinGa, 28-Jul-06 04:08 PM, #40
                                                            Reply RE: Lore isn't broken, Tac, 28-Jul-06 03:23 PM, #30
                                                            Reply RE: Lore isn't broken, Karel, 28-Jul-06 03:37 PM, #33
                                                            Reply RE: Lore isn't broken, nepenthe, 28-Jul-06 03:56 PM, #37
                                                                 Reply RE: Lore isn't broken, Tac, 28-Jul-06 04:33 PM, #41
                                                            Reply RE: Lore isn't broken, nepenthe, 28-Jul-06 04:44 PM, #42
                                                                 Reply RE: Lore isn't broken, Karel, 28-Jul-06 04:52 PM, #44
                                                                 Reply I think this is the answer I wanted., GinGa, 29-Jul-06 06:45 AM, #46
                                                                 Reply Will a couple two-fours of Coors Light do?, Gaenlin, 29-Jul-06 11:43 AM, #48
                                             Reply RE: Addendum., Gaenlin, 28-Jul-06 12:17 PM, #21
                                                  Reply RE: Addendum., incognito, 28-Jul-06 12:25 PM, #22
                                                  Reply RE: Addendum., nepenthe, 28-Jul-06 02:56 PM, #26
                              Reply RE: After my one time shifter experiment..., DurNominator, 28-Jul-06 09:39 AM, #17
                                   Reply Awesome., GinGa, 28-Jul-06 10:01 AM, #18
                                        Reply RE: Awesome., Karel, 28-Jul-06 04:00 PM, #38
                                             Reply The reason I play alot of shifters...., Lightmage, 29-Jul-06 08:10 AM, #47
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