Valguarnera![](./images/team_imm.gif) | Mon 26-Sep-05 10:36 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#10405, "Yup."
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1) I can't think of a cabal Outlander should be less chummy with than Scion. Empire's goals of dominion and Tribunal's goals of keeping a few selected cities safe pale before the prospect of a group of conjurers who are interested in opening otherplanar rifts, plunge the world into darkness, and reign over the remnants (*).
2) Ditto Scions. Battle and Outlander oppose the tools necessary to complete their goals. If conjuration is weak/suppressed they are powerless to influence the outcomes. A strong Outlander is a bad Outlander.
3) Scion's relationship with their Nightwalkers has always been framed as an edgy alliance built around common ends. Scion dogma basically states that prophecies foretell that the Nightwalker race/plane is coming to Thera, and it's just a matter of time. If otherdimensional doom is coming, better to be among the few who are spared.
It has never been framed as a master/servant relationship. There have been suggestions that because the Scions risk becoming servants on the day the gates are thrown open, they will need to control the process (i.e. cause the gates to open, controlling and maintaining them) rather than be passive observers (i.e., wait around for the Nightwalkers to figure out how to throw them open themselves). But it's never been the case that Scions could abuse the Nightwalkers without it eventually catching up with them.
Standing around with your thumb in your butt when a (recently-ex) Outlander crispy-fries your Nightwalker has never been a good plan. The simplest solution for an evil PC in that situation would have been: Crispy-fry the offending Outlander. That would have easily been reward-worthy if done unprompted. Done after being prompted: Meh. Stand around after being prompted: Someone's going to pay.
All around, it was one of the clearer examples of Team Evil mentality in recent memory.
4) The only difference between this occuring in Hell and this occurring on Eastern Road is that you're a lot more likely to be watched, and therefore get caught (or in the alternate scenario, rewarded), in Hell. It certainly doesn't exempt you from roleplay standards.
valguarnera@carrionfields.com
(*) All oversimplified but sufficiently accurate for the purposes of Outlander/Scion not getting along.
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HELLS! they've lost their minds
[View all] , Odrirg, Mon 26-Sep-05 10:36 AM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Yup.,
Valguarnera ,
25-Sep-05 02:16 PM #26
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Hey, Valg? How does it feel to be the new unofficial C...,
Tharena,
25-Sep-05 10:36 PM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Ugh, unofficial Cador?,
Kazadan,
26-Sep-05 01:17 AM, #23
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Note on notes:,
Valguarnera ,
26-Sep-05 01:21 AM, #24
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Yup.,
Eskelian,
25-Sep-05 11:57 PM, #19
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Amen, brother! Preach on, preach on! (n/t),
Tharena,
24-Sep-05 09:25 PM, #12
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Dear God, I couldn't agree more.........,
Charade,
24-Sep-05 01:21 AM, #3
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Dear God, I couldn't agree more.........,
Eskelian,
24-Sep-05 06:21 PM, #7
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Then...,
SPN,
24-Sep-05 06:50 PM, #8
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I've had enough.,
Meakanera,
24-Sep-05 08:16 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Yes.,
Odrirg,
24-Sep-05 08:25 PM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Once again I concur......,
Charade,
24-Sep-05 11:25 PM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Once again I concur......,
Eskelian,
25-Sep-05 03:16 AM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) FWIW,
Balrahd,
24-Sep-05 10:32 PM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Then...,
Eskelian,
25-Sep-05 03:43 AM, #17
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Then...,
Valguarnera ,
26-Sep-05 12:36 AM, #20
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Then...,
Eskelian,
26-Sep-05 12:57 AM, #21
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Then...,
Valguarnera ,
26-Sep-05 12:59 AM, #22
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Then...,
Valguarnera ,
26-Sep-05 01:18 AM, #25
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Not sure which is more funny.,
Odrirg,
24-Sep-05 08:00 PM, #9
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Not sure which is more funny.,
Eskelian,
25-Sep-05 03:13 AM, #15
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: HELLS! they've lost their minds,
Isildur,
23-Sep-05 11:34 PM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) it sounds like you think the attack on the walker was a...,
jasmin,
24-Sep-05 10:59 AM, #5
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: HELLS! they've lost their minds,
Eskelian,
24-Sep-05 06:18 PM, #6
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Let me add something,
Odrirg,
23-Sep-05 11:28 PM, #1
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I haven't read the log,
incognito,
24-Sep-05 03:38 AM, #4
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