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ValguarneraSat 13-Jan-07 09:49 AM
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Do you think that every weapon is ok as long as there is no
other way of winning with less casualty's?


I think in the situation in question, the first atomic weapon was the best choice. The rest of the question is a slippery slope question, and not relevant-- the answer would be "case by case".

How many Japanese civilians died due to US attacks and how many US civilians died due to attacks from Japan?

That's completely irrelevant, since Japan lacked the air and sea power to attack the U.S. mainland, and lost the ability to reach Hawaii right after Pearl Harbor. In every country they could reach, they inflicted massive civilian casualties. (They're responsible for upwards of 7,000,000 Chinese civilian casualties, and 4,000,000 civilian deaths during their occupation and forced labor programs within Indonesia.)

The Japanese lost an estimated 600,000 civilians during the war, almost all in the late push in Spring/Summer 1945, after repeated refusals to surrender. Again, the Allies exhausted other options, barring a conventional invasion, before the decision was made to use the atomic weapon.

How would you have ended the war, then? It's a fair question if you criticize the US for using atomic weapons there. What's the alternative? Everything I can think of would have cost a lot more lives.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

  

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HOT TopicLike there wasn't enough to worry about [View all] , Marcus_, Fri 05-Jan-07 08:31 AM
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Vortex Magus, 10-Jan-07 11:21 AM, #14
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Marcus_, 11-Jan-07 04:45 AM, #19
     Reply Ummm, DurNominator, 11-Jan-07 07:18 AM, #20
          Reply Are you serious?, Chuntog, 11-Jan-07 09:45 AM, #21
               Reply RE: Are you serious?, Rodriguez, 11-Jan-07 01:45 PM, #22
                    Reply RE: Are you serious?, Chuntog, 12-Jan-07 08:59 AM, #27
                         Reply Well, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 12:58 PM, #28
                              Reply RE: Hiroshima and Nagasaki:, Valguarnera, 12-Jan-07 01:47 PM, #29
                                   Reply I think Dresden might be a poor example., GinGa, 12-Jan-07 02:21 PM, #31
                                   Reply RE: I think Dresden might be a poor example., Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 03:09 PM, #33
                                        Reply The emphasis was meant on the target., GinGa, 12-Jan-07 04:41 PM, #38
                                             Reply Sorry, was a misunderstanding. /nt, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 04:53 PM, #39
                                   Reply I am not a military expert,, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 03:08 PM, #32
                                        Reply RE: I am not a military expert,, Daevryn, 12-Jan-07 03:27 PM, #34
                                             Reply RE: I am not a military expert,, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 04:00 PM, #35
                                                  Reply Isn't this one of the 10%?, Valguarnera, 12-Jan-07 04:26 PM, #36
                                                  Reply No, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 05:41 PM, #40
                                                       Reply RE: No, Valguarnera, 13-Jan-07 09:49 AM #43
                                                            Reply RE: No, Rodriguez, 13-Jan-07 11:01 AM, #44
                                                                 Reply RE: No, Daevryn, 13-Jan-07 11:51 AM, #45
                                                                 Reply RE: No, DurNominator, 13-Jan-07 12:21 PM, #46
                                                                 Reply Over a million., Valguarnera, 13-Jan-07 12:56 PM, #47
                                                                      Reply If the war continued like it did before, yes maybe., Rodriguez, 13-Jan-07 01:39 PM, #48
                                                                           Reply Question:, Daevryn, 13-Jan-07 03:21 PM, #49
                                                                           Reply In that case it truly would make no difference. /nt, Rodriguez, 13-Jan-07 04:30 PM, #50
                                                                           Reply Japan, Chuntog, 15-Jan-07 12:58 PM, #51
                                                                                Reply It's also worth mentioning..., Daevryn, 15-Jan-07 01:46 PM, #52
                                                                                Reply RE: It's also worth mentioning..., Valguarnera, 15-Jan-07 02:06 PM, #53
                                                                                Reply ...or try to invade Swizerland, Rodriguez, 15-Jan-07 03:28 PM, #54
                                                                                Reply Hmm, thats a good point... /nt, Rodriguez, 15-Jan-07 03:29 PM, #55
                                                                                Reply Militarily Unneccessary, Linolaques, 15-Jan-07 11:07 PM, #56
                                                  Reply RE: I am not a military expert,, Daevryn, 12-Jan-07 04:30 PM, #37
                                                       Reply Sounds good in theorie, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 05:52 PM, #41
                                                            Reply RE: Sounds good in theorie, Daevryn, 12-Jan-07 06:03 PM, #42
Reply I play with bacillus anthracis all the time..., Sapphire_Eyes (Anonymous), 08-Jan-07 11:56 PM, #10
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, somebody, 08-Jan-07 05:10 PM, #4
Reply RE: Biological Weapons:, Valguarnera, 08-Jan-07 05:58 PM, #5
Reply RE: Biological Weapons:, somebody, 08-Jan-07 09:01 PM, #6
     Reply RE: Biological Weapons:, Daevryn, 08-Jan-07 10:15 PM, #8
          Reply Just forget it, somebody, 08-Jan-07 10:24 PM, #9
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Igsoeh, 08-Jan-07 09:46 PM, #7
     Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Rodriguez, 09-Jan-07 05:53 AM, #11
          Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Igsoeh, 09-Jan-07 06:17 PM, #12
          Reply Hmm, Rodriguez, 10-Jan-07 08:47 AM, #13
               Reply RE: Hmm, Igsoeh, 11-Jan-07 11:52 PM, #24
          Reply We have world police. The UN., GinGa, 10-Jan-07 04:56 PM, #15
               Reply So true, its sad. /nt, Rodriguez, 10-Jan-07 05:28 PM, #17
               Reply RE: We have world police. The UN., Igsoeh, 11-Jan-07 11:34 PM, #23
                    Reply RE: We have world police. The UN., DurNominator, 12-Jan-07 03:54 AM, #25
                    Reply RE: We have world police. The UN., Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 05:08 AM, #26
                    Reply Blatantly false accusations. (and some foot stamping), GinGa, 12-Jan-07 02:16 PM, #30
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Valguarnera, 05-Jan-07 10:27 AM, #1
     Reply What is your job? n/t, Stunna, 08-Jan-07 10:41 AM, #2
     Reply From below:, Valguarnera, 08-Jan-07 02:39 PM, #3
     Reply Two things I'd like to ask you, GinGa, 10-Jan-07 05:10 PM, #16
          Reply RE: Two things I'd like to ask you, Valguarnera, 10-Jan-07 06:10 PM, #18
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