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GinGaFri 12-Jan-07 02:16 PM
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#927, "Blatantly false accusations. (and some foot stamping)"


  

          

Like "The UN is corrupt!".

Branches of the UN have been abused, the same way branches of the American government have. You cannot then take the entire system and say 'It is corrupt.'

I can, however, look at the Somalian government for the past ten years and say 'Yeah, thats corrupt. Where it isn't, its entirely powerless.'

Others might not even dain to call that a government. The UN isn't a government. What it is, is a democratic cooperative. The US walks in, with all its power, issues the UN with powers it believes just in a democratic world then justifies not following them itself by saying 'But we donate so much!'. There is no democracy to that, its called a farce.

Who creates that farce? The US and the UK when they turn their backs on the power they use to oppress 'corrupt' countries. They do it for money and power, for their own benefit and at the expense of everyone else.

Example? Take Somalia again. The UN couldn't defend food convoys and the US said they'd come help by assassinating the warlords hijacking them. They sent a measley number of troops for the job, that failed in a spectacular (and tragic) way. They pulled out when they lost a number of lives.

Now, as soon as oil is in the equation, the US not only sends out a huge number of troops for a full scale occupation, but has the cheek to send more when it knows its failing. Their loses are far greater and the fact they think its worth those lives when it wasn't before gives you a good clue as to their motives.

The truth: That isn't charity. The only ones being charitable are the soldiers that are following orders and actually are in there fighting. I count their lives as they give them away and I wish I'd had a chance to teach them about politics. I wish I could have shown them the fight that goes on behind the scenes. How men and woman argue daily against a stubborn world and have no ideal examples to turn to. No examples that haven't thrown in their virtue for money and power.

There are definite, hard ways to change the world with less war - and they stop working when you pick up your gun for the wrong reasons.

Yhorian.

  

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HOT TopicLike there wasn't enough to worry about [View all] , Marcus_, Fri 05-Jan-07 08:31 AM
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Vortex Magus, 10-Jan-07 11:21 AM, #14
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Marcus_, 11-Jan-07 04:45 AM, #19
     Reply Ummm, DurNominator, 11-Jan-07 07:18 AM, #20
          Reply Are you serious?, Chuntog, 11-Jan-07 09:45 AM, #21
               Reply RE: Are you serious?, Rodriguez, 11-Jan-07 01:45 PM, #22
                    Reply RE: Are you serious?, Chuntog, 12-Jan-07 08:59 AM, #27
                         Reply Well, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 12:58 PM, #28
                              Reply RE: Hiroshima and Nagasaki:, Valguarnera, 12-Jan-07 01:47 PM, #29
                                   Reply I think Dresden might be a poor example., GinGa, 12-Jan-07 02:21 PM, #31
                                   Reply RE: I think Dresden might be a poor example., Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 03:09 PM, #33
                                        Reply The emphasis was meant on the target., GinGa, 12-Jan-07 04:41 PM, #38
                                             Reply Sorry, was a misunderstanding. /nt, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 04:53 PM, #39
                                   Reply I am not a military expert,, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 03:08 PM, #32
                                        Reply RE: I am not a military expert,, Daevryn, 12-Jan-07 03:27 PM, #34
                                             Reply RE: I am not a military expert,, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 04:00 PM, #35
                                                  Reply Isn't this one of the 10%?, Valguarnera, 12-Jan-07 04:26 PM, #36
                                                  Reply No, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 05:41 PM, #40
                                                       Reply RE: No, Valguarnera, 13-Jan-07 09:49 AM, #43
                                                            Reply RE: No, Rodriguez, 13-Jan-07 11:01 AM, #44
                                                                 Reply RE: No, Daevryn, 13-Jan-07 11:51 AM, #45
                                                                 Reply RE: No, DurNominator, 13-Jan-07 12:21 PM, #46
                                                                 Reply Over a million., Valguarnera, 13-Jan-07 12:56 PM, #47
                                                                      Reply If the war continued like it did before, yes maybe., Rodriguez, 13-Jan-07 01:39 PM, #48
                                                                           Reply Question:, Daevryn, 13-Jan-07 03:21 PM, #49
                                                                           Reply In that case it truly would make no difference. /nt, Rodriguez, 13-Jan-07 04:30 PM, #50
                                                                           Reply Japan, Chuntog, 15-Jan-07 12:58 PM, #51
                                                                                Reply It's also worth mentioning..., Daevryn, 15-Jan-07 01:46 PM, #52
                                                                                Reply RE: It's also worth mentioning..., Valguarnera, 15-Jan-07 02:06 PM, #53
                                                                                Reply ...or try to invade Swizerland, Rodriguez, 15-Jan-07 03:28 PM, #54
                                                                                Reply Hmm, thats a good point... /nt, Rodriguez, 15-Jan-07 03:29 PM, #55
                                                                                Reply Militarily Unneccessary, Linolaques, 15-Jan-07 11:07 PM, #56
                                                  Reply RE: I am not a military expert,, Daevryn, 12-Jan-07 04:30 PM, #37
                                                       Reply Sounds good in theorie, Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 05:52 PM, #41
                                                            Reply RE: Sounds good in theorie, Daevryn, 12-Jan-07 06:03 PM, #42
Reply I play with bacillus anthracis all the time..., Sapphire_Eyes (Anonymous), 08-Jan-07 11:56 PM, #10
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, somebody, 08-Jan-07 05:10 PM, #4
Reply RE: Biological Weapons:, Valguarnera, 08-Jan-07 05:58 PM, #5
Reply RE: Biological Weapons:, somebody, 08-Jan-07 09:01 PM, #6
     Reply RE: Biological Weapons:, Daevryn, 08-Jan-07 10:15 PM, #8
          Reply Just forget it, somebody, 08-Jan-07 10:24 PM, #9
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Igsoeh, 08-Jan-07 09:46 PM, #7
     Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Rodriguez, 09-Jan-07 05:53 AM, #11
          Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Igsoeh, 09-Jan-07 06:17 PM, #12
          Reply Hmm, Rodriguez, 10-Jan-07 08:47 AM, #13
               Reply RE: Hmm, Igsoeh, 11-Jan-07 11:52 PM, #24
          Reply We have world police. The UN., GinGa, 10-Jan-07 04:56 PM, #15
               Reply So true, its sad. /nt, Rodriguez, 10-Jan-07 05:28 PM, #17
               Reply RE: We have world police. The UN., Igsoeh, 11-Jan-07 11:34 PM, #23
                    Reply RE: We have world police. The UN., DurNominator, 12-Jan-07 03:54 AM, #25
                    Reply RE: We have world police. The UN., Rodriguez, 12-Jan-07 05:08 AM, #26
                    Reply Blatantly false accusations. (and some foot stamping), GinGa, 12-Jan-07 02:16 PM #30
Reply RE: Like there wasn't enough to worry about, Valguarnera, 05-Jan-07 10:27 AM, #1
     Reply What is your job? n/t, Stunna, 08-Jan-07 10:41 AM, #2
     Reply From below:, Valguarnera, 08-Jan-07 02:39 PM, #3
     Reply Two things I'd like to ask you, GinGa, 10-Jan-07 05:10 PM, #16
          Reply RE: Two things I'd like to ask you, Valguarnera, 10-Jan-07 06:10 PM, #18
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