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shokaiSat 16-Feb-02 09:07 PM
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#4550, "Did I say you were a gear hoarder?"


  

          


...or was there some mystery flaming here, by my evil twin Floofi, that I missed. I didn't state that you hoarded gear. The example I used of a paladin hoarding gear...was not aimed at you.

As whoever first responded to your post stated, playing a true Paladin is nearly a myth. Heroes of legend and lore (not the damnned fairy tale ones mind you) almost all had character flaws. These character flaws can make the hero very interesting and fun to play.

You're talking classic 'tragic hero' here, right? Yeah, they all had flaws...and that flaw was ultimately what did them in, and what kept them from being perfect.

I believe that I got the short end of the stick here, and that you held me to a silly standard. Now I'm only speaking out of one perspective, of course. Yet still, I am required of myself to ask how I failed so miserably that I would get unempowered and given a discraceful title.

You haven't dealt with me much in the past have you? It may not be the best way, but it's the way that works for me, but I rarely give warnings...instead I do what I did with you, and then let you work yourself back. I'm big on redemption....maybe it's the recovering Catholic in me...but I've always thought it's far cooler for someone to fall and then pick themself back up...that for someone to start off perfect.

Now, lets say I'm going on a mission to the Inferno to explore some and to get some gear (hell, who goes down there not to at least get some gear?). Unless we make it all the way through (and I've never been down there, so I really don't know what I'm talking about), we're going to die. By logic, a very unShokai-paladin thing to do. Would I get unempowered for that as well?

Now you're being silly.

In a recent event, MaranHopeful and Maran1 raided the Chasm. In reports from a source undisclosed, Maran1 failed to act on numerous opportunities and as a result, MaranHopeful was killed. A very unShokai-paladin thing to do, I would imagine. I am no judge of Maran1's character, but would not this merit a warning, if my actions merited a severe 'warning'?

I'd have to know the specfics of what you're talking about to know what went down, and what, if anything I'd do about it. Failing to keep a fellow lightwalker alive during a raid and failure to keep a fellow alive while gathering gear...well, we're talking apples and oranges. Both, admittedly are mistakes, and who knows...maybe I just got the wrong impression of Ruairc's attitude IC when things went down than you meant to convey.


Now, before I start calling the kettle black, I'll state that I'm just a little confused, and feel a little cheated. Am I justified? I guess I'll never know. But character flaws are an ingrained part of human life, and I'm not talking about the silly quirks of a character. You must have known about all the bad things I did, and few of the good. Otherwise, I can find no reasonable arguement for the ground of my desmise, other than that you deemed it so. Which, sadly, is not enough for me.

Character flaws are fine, I like character flaws....character flaws that go against the basic nature of the character....when there isn't rp'd conflict....enh, that's a lot to swallow. Imagine if once or twice Ruairc had sat fretting in the guild greatly desiring Defiance...yet knowing that much blood would spill if he went for it...*that* is roleplaying a flaw. I'll also point out that it wasn't my intent for you to go to your grave unempowered and heinously titled....since as I've stated once or twice before, I dig redemption.



  

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HOT Topic(DEL) <None> Ruairc the Callous Guide, Obsessed by Gree... [View all] , Death_Angel, Thu 14-Feb-02 11:24 PM
Reply Good paladins, bad paladins, immortals and such things, Tom (Guest) (Guest), 16-Feb-02 09:25 AM, #26
Reply RE: Good paladins, bad paladins, immortals and such thi..., shokai, 17-Feb-02 02:47 AM, #47
Reply Shokai you cheater., Xanthrailles, 18-Feb-02 01:46 AM, #60
     Reply RE: Shokai you cheater., Falstaff, 20-Feb-02 04:59 PM, #75
Reply I don't even know why I'm bothering., nepenthe, 17-Feb-02 03:21 AM, #50
Reply and when a smugger assassinated you, you deleted! haha ..., Arolin (Guest) (Guest), 17-Feb-02 06:21 PM, #59
     Reply Heh. No., nepenthe, 18-Feb-02 11:04 AM, #62
Reply oww man.., Shinomori (Guest), 22-Feb-02 02:05 AM, #77
Reply Clarifications, Advice, and maybe even a witty remark....., shokai, 15-Feb-02 07:06 PM, #22
Reply RE: Clarifications, Advice, and maybe even a witty rema..., uncle bob (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 07:40 PM, #23
Reply More clarifications, important topic included., JAH (Guest), 16-Feb-02 12:06 AM, #24
     Reply RE: More clarifications, important topic included., Nicolette (Guest) (Guest), 16-Feb-02 02:44 AM, #25
     Reply RE: More clarifications, important topic included., JAH (Guest), 16-Feb-02 01:07 PM, #30
          Reply RE: More clarifications, important topic included., ORB, 16-Feb-02 02:41 PM, #31
               Reply Your simple-minded conclusion doesn't convince me., JAH (Guest), 16-Feb-02 03:02 PM, #32
                    Reply It was your conculsion not mine, read your first post a..., ORB, 16-Feb-02 03:36 PM, #33
                         Reply I'm almost out of piss, when does the contest end?, JAH (Guest), 16-Feb-02 04:17 PM, #34
     Reply Did I say you were a gear hoarder?, shokai, 16-Feb-02 09:07 PM #39
          Reply Cool, a response!, JAH (Guest), 16-Feb-02 10:17 PM, #42
          Reply and another!, shokai, 17-Feb-02 12:28 AM, #43
               Reply RE: and another!, Isildur (Guest) (Guest), 17-Feb-02 01:19 AM, #44
          Reply A small question for Yourself and Nepenthe., Xanthrailles, 18-Feb-02 01:50 AM, #61
Reply RE: (DEL) <None> Ruairc the Callous Guide, Obsessed by ..., Nydeikon (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 04:36 PM, #20
Reply We could have been Greed-Brothers!, Albaszn (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 03:39 PM, #14
Reply Clarification..., Isildur (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 09:33 AM, #10
Reply Consider it clarified..., Boldereth, 15-Feb-02 10:00 AM, #11
     Reply RE: Consider it clarified..., Isildur (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 03:59 PM, #15
          Reply RE: Consider it clarified..., Nicolette (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 04:21 PM, #17
          Reply This was my warning., JAH (Guest), 15-Feb-02 04:34 PM, #18
          Reply Oh, another thing..., JAH (Guest), 15-Feb-02 04:36 PM, #19
               Reply RE: Oh, another thing..., ArChaos (Guest) (Guest), 16-Feb-02 11:02 AM, #27
                    Reply RE: Oh, another thing..., Valguarnera, 16-Feb-02 12:00 PM, #28
                         Reply My bitter or ArChaos's?, JAH (Guest), 16-Feb-02 12:38 PM, #29
                         Reply How odd, I thought something was here just a second ago..., JAH (Guest), 16-Feb-02 07:30 PM, #35
                         Reply RE: How odd, I thought something was here just a second..., Valguarnera, 16-Feb-02 08:54 PM, #37
                         Reply RE: Oh, another thing..., Aubrey (Guest) (Guest), 16-Feb-02 08:54 PM, #36
                         Reply RE: Oh, another thing..., Valguarnera, 16-Feb-02 08:57 PM, #38
                         Reply Aubrey...shut up., shokai, 16-Feb-02 09:20 PM, #40
                         Reply RE: Aubrey...shut up., A newbie (Guest) (Guest), 17-Feb-02 03:40 AM, #51
                         Reply RE: Aubrey...shut up., Heh (Guest) (Guest), 18-Feb-02 01:47 PM, #63
                         Reply RE: Aubrey...shut up., Aubrey (Guest) (Guest), 18-Feb-02 06:01 PM, #67
                              Reply RE: Aubrey...shut up., Isildur, 18-Feb-02 06:09 PM, #68
                              Reply RE: Aubrey...shut up., Valguarnera, 18-Feb-02 06:57 PM, #70
                              Reply Hmmm, DwE (Guest) (Guest), 18-Feb-02 10:50 PM, #72
                              Reply RE: Aubrey...shut up., Falstaff, 20-Feb-02 10:21 AM, #74
                              Reply RE: Aubrey...shut up., Wemnar, 19-Feb-02 06:37 AM, #73
                              Reply Compulsive lie much?, nepenthe, 18-Feb-02 06:52 PM, #69
                         Reply Wake up!, Strohm (Guest) (Guest), 16-Feb-02 10:14 PM, #41
                              Reply Gotta respond to this..., Isildur (Guest) (Guest), 17-Feb-02 01:42 AM, #45
                              Reply RE: Gotta respond to this..., Valguarnera, 17-Feb-02 02:10 AM, #46
                                   Reply RE: Gotta respond to this..., Isildur, 17-Feb-02 03:01 AM, #48
                                   Reply RE: Gotta respond to this..., Valguarnera, 17-Feb-02 05:58 AM, #52
                                   Reply To Brotmin, Valg and Isildur., Strohm (Guest) (Guest), 17-Feb-02 06:09 AM, #53
                                        Reply RE: To Brotmin, Valg and Isildur., Isildur (Guest) (Guest), 17-Feb-02 10:41 AM, #55
                                        Reply RE: To Brotmin, Valg and Isildur., JAH (Guest), 17-Feb-02 01:30 PM, #56
                                        Reply RE: To Brotmin, Valg and Isildur., Falstaff, 20-Feb-02 05:22 PM, #76
                                        Reply I'd drop you a post that might encourage you, incognito, 17-Feb-02 03:04 PM, #57
                              Reply Cabal corruption, Brotmin, 17-Feb-02 03:20 AM, #49
                              Reply That goes for me too., Warborf (Guest) (Guest), 18-Feb-02 02:14 PM, #64
                              Reply Strohm I feel so sorry for you., Goapa (Guest) (Guest), 18-Feb-02 03:00 PM, #65
                                   Reply Well, Strohm (Guest) (Guest), 18-Feb-02 03:57 PM, #66
                         Reply Yes, but leika had an immortal in the past, haha, nothi..., Smugger (Guest) (Guest), 17-Feb-02 05:37 PM, #58
Reply RE: (DEL) <None> Ruairc the Callous Guide, Obsessed by ..., Thornheart (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 07:05 AM, #8
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Reply Well Sorry to see you go ya got me most of the way let ..., Salezan (Guest) (Guest), 14-Feb-02 11:51 PM, #3
Reply Damn was I greedy., JAH (Guest), 14-Feb-02 11:50 PM, #2
     Reply Oh yeah, my favorite round..., JAH (Guest), 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM, #1
     Reply Forgot me eh? heh, Ajoul (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 12:21 AM, #4
     Reply You bastard! And I thought it was Enbuergo all along....., JAH (Guest), 15-Feb-02 12:24 AM, #5
     Reply RE: Damn was I greedy., nepenthe, 15-Feb-02 02:59 AM, #6
     Reply RE: Damn was I greedy., ORB, 15-Feb-02 03:41 AM, #7
          Reply good paladins counted on one hand, jasmin (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 02:54 PM, #13
     Reply well, I didn't mind dying the FIRST time, Daurwyn (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 07:59 AM, #9
     Reply Callous? Greedy?, Anborankein (Guest) (Guest), 15-Feb-02 04:16 PM, #16
     Reply Thanks, JAH (Guest), 15-Feb-02 04:39 PM, #21
     Reply Considering your remark., Sancella (Guest) (Guest), 17-Feb-02 10:26 AM, #54
     Reply RE: Damn was I greedy., Fristapholin (Guest) (Guest), 18-Feb-02 08:56 PM, #71
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