One thing that really bothered me was that there were no young marans. I know that Shokai likes to wait and induct people, but the biggest problem I had was the fact I would raid take the scepter. Little scions raid take it back. Then I would repeat the process I usually tried to raid three or four times, but after that I got tired. Shokai if you get the chance I'd also like to hear comments from you since I think you watched me a hell of a lot. I don't know why but I just always had that feeling that someone was looking over my shoulder. Pohanad I also felt I was right about that sword, but I knew it wasn't an arguement I could win. I'd like Nepenthe's opinion on it though since it was his area. I did learn from that mistake though and figured out a crafty way to gather it.