Sorry, didn't mean to leave you out. As for how long did I stick out deamelin, he con died, somewhere in the 400+hours. Deleting deamal wasn't just about forms, that was just a part. Of all the major forms, dillo is the one I dislike the most. It's a walking rock, you can beat on it all day and it won't feel much, but on the other hand it won't hit back. Panther is pretty decent. This particular character I wasn't having much fun with back at like the 25th rank when I was going to delete him first, but I decided to "stick it out" so to speak on the off chance I might actually grow to enjoy him. Didn't. Another factor, do scions really need another shifter hero?