Way to stick together, I especially like the multiple pats on the back as you give the 'Imm-take' on things.

The point was, in the past the Imms had the 'interest' in the cabal to give the 'players' (you remember who they are right?) the opportunity to rise to the occasion. That isn't the case in instant gratification cabal purges. I understand if the majority fall into this category, I don't feel that was the case with battle; at least that I saw. The gist of things is that as proven by such constructive and useful posts as what's his names, where the best he can offer up is that it's nolonger the "whine and cheese" chennel, you guys aren't working 'with' players to effect something better, you're making unilateral changes that suit 'your' immediate picture of how things should be. I'm not saying you all suck, though I think posts that equate to Imm's saying you're whiny or mine is bigger than yours prove that saying they suck is redundant. I'm saying that without the rp and immteraction that the mud was well-known for, it devolves into kill joe, loot corpse, get killed by hector, regear repeat add infinitum. Which makes for less fun for all involved. Imms I'd suspect would be better served by a patient weaving mindset rather than your typical 5 year old mentality of I want what I want and I want it now or I'm going to throw a fit. It makes for more fun, I'd think on everyone's part.

As a player, yeah I think the recent changes were ill-conceived. Obviously you all disagree, but likewise considering you would pretty much put a united face on kicking puppies and whatever else that one Imm did I don't of necessity grant carbon copy opinions much weight. Valguernera, I understand in the absence of a leader of your cabal that it's necessary to take your own steps, but rather than coming up with 5 or 6 cheesy gechos and booting everyone I 'know' you're imaginative enough to come up with a more insidious way of reaching the same end result. Insta changes are just as destructive to immersion into the group consensual rp of playing in a world like cf as someone who says AFK I need to drain the lizard. Why do I 'whine' about this? Because you're the Imms, you set the standards whether you like it or not, when I can name certain players who seem more in tune with these concepts than apparently several Imms then things are messed up. I won't play CF cause I don't like most of its Imm Staff, purely judging things on recent things I've seen. That being said, some of them I like a great deal and respect. The irony is that due to recent name changes it's altogether possible that some of those I 'think' I respect could very well be those who I presently totally dislike. In the end who cares? You don't play and do what you do to please me, nor I you no matter how much any one of you might think or expect otherwise. But, I do think that it was at least the intended goal of all who play, imm and player alike to try to jointly participate and create an atmosphere conducive to the fun, rp and so forth that make CF worthy of mention.

Laters,
Hysh