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#128027, "RE: incorrect"
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Having played a provost or three, and one of the more lethal ones:
It was drilled into me by the immortals running the cabal, and something that I drilled into every single magistrate when interviewing them. The concept of Jurisdiction. The laws only apply within the jurisdiction you have. The example I typically used:
Scenario 1 - You are a magistrate of Galadon. You are protecting the Spire against a warranted outlander. They flee to Galadon and a healer there heals them. Can you warrant them?
Scenario 2 - Same as above, but they flee to the Weald. Can you warrant them?
The answers are Yes and No respectively. This is because in the first case you have jurisdiction, and in the second you do not. It is the same thing with a provost and his guards, or a vindicator and his guards. If either chases a criminal outside of a city using their guards, the criminal and his friends are allowed to strike the provost, the vindicator, the guards, or do whatever. It's not a protected area, so the laws of the spire do not apply. Basically, if you can't stand in the location and give them a warrant, then you don't have jurisdiction to enforce laws there.
The logical extension of your view is that once a character is warranted and retreats to their cabal, anyone who defends that cabal should then be warranted.
That, and having known your character through a few iterations, I think you should have ben OE, not ON. OE uses the laws for their own advantage.
Oh, and yes, all these provosts I mentioned are from within the past 20 years, so I don't know quite what you're talking about when you speak of this being the case for decades. This is a new development from my own experience through at least a half dozen magistrates in the past decade.
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(DELETED) [None] Qinsa Rhee the Dai Sensei of the Miyam...
[View all] , Death_Angel , Tue 10-May-16 11:16 PM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Hey Qinsa,,
Relio,
20-May-16 10:51 AM, #84
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I want to add...,
Banned,
20-May-16 11:36 AM, #85
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) In the context of CF,
Relio,
20-May-16 11:55 AM, #86
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Matey Law Cat!,
Osdryn (Anonymous),
13-May-16 08:55 AM, #79
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Thanks for interacting with lowbies!,
Abatoor (Anonymous),
12-May-16 05:08 PM, #73
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Goodbyes to Nexus. will be short,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 01:33 PM, #62
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Oooh, you were Balindorf?,
Murphy,
12-May-16 01:56 PM, #68
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Goodbyes to Empire,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 11:23 AM, #51
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Goodbyes to Empire,
Darvoderis (Anonymous),
12-May-16 02:48 PM, #70
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Goodbyes to Empire,
Caecilius (Anonymous),
13-May-16 06:59 PM, #80
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) "To hell with the same cookie cutters over and over aga...,
Lhydia,
13-May-16 09:12 PM, #82
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Made my day as well,
Kstatida,
15-May-16 02:32 PM, #83
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [None] Qinsa Rhee the Dai Sensei of the M...,
uerlante (Anonymous),
11-May-16 10:34 PM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) mm,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 08:28 AM, #35
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I just want to say one thing,
Hallanaphas (Anonymous),
11-May-16 10:27 PM, #30
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) understand your situation,
qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 08:26 AM, #34
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) See there you go again,
Hallanaphas (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:04 AM, #36
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) yes I did.,
qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:06 AM, #40
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) We didn't speak once at hero,
Hallanaphas (Anonymous),
12-May-16 10:33 AM, #49
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) mm,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 01:35 PM, #63
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Nope,
Hallanaphas (Anonymous),
12-May-16 07:27 PM, #76
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Whiney like this flame out on the officials? (n/t),
N b M,
12-May-16 10:47 AM, #50
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) yeah. Too many people like you posting. n/t,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 01:35 PM, #64
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [None] Qinsa Rhee the Dai Sensei of the M...,
Destuvius ,
11-May-16 06:59 PM, #22
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Great @#$@#!! opponent.,
Quixotic re Myriani (Anonymous),
11-May-16 09:10 PM, #27
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Great @#$@#!! opponent.,
qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:03 AM, #38
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Then why post?,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:00 AM, #37
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It is up to Vindicator to declare war? lolwut?,
Lhydia,
12-May-16 09:04 AM, #39
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: It is up to Vindicator to declare war? lolwut?,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:13 AM, #41
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I still love you.,
Lhydia,
12-May-16 09:18 AM, #43
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: It is up to Vindicator to declare war? lolwut?,
N b M,
12-May-16 09:20 AM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) WOW. please read,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:29 AM, #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) A lot of your trouble is your insistence that you're ri...,
Jormyr,
12-May-16 02:24 PM, #69
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) first part, goodbyes and words to outlanders. More to c...,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
11-May-16 01:51 PM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Unless I'm mistaken,
incognito,
11-May-16 04:59 PM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: first part, goodbyes and words to outlanders. More ...,
Horner (Anonymous),
11-May-16 05:11 PM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'll just refute the lies since you have no concept of ...,
Gwildaththea (Anonymous),
11-May-16 05:55 PM, #20
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Sounds like it's both IC and OOC contempt,
Murphy,
11-May-16 09:24 PM, #28
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) But elf druid! She'd have to RP to get that build right...,
Lhydia,
11-May-16 09:49 PM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Unfortunately, you have a very limited insight into my ...,
Gwildaththea (Anonymous),
12-May-16 08:20 AM, #33
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Similarly you have a very limited insight into Heralds ...,
Murphy,
12-May-16 12:22 PM, #54
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: first part, goodbyes and words to outlanders. More ...,
Drehir,
12-May-16 11:54 AM, #52
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) hugs and explanation. Sort of high on meds right now so...,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 12:56 PM, #56
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: hugs and explanation. Sort of high on meds right no...,
Drehir,
12-May-16 09:36 PM, #78
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Goodbye, Provost,
Tanzer (Anonymous),
13-May-16 08:22 PM, #81
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Honestly...,
k-b,
11-May-16 12:59 PM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) having people despise you does not make you a success,
silat,
11-May-16 01:50 PM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) this one,
qinsa (Anonymous),
11-May-16 02:06 PM, #14
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Probably the sort of character who was loved, or hated.,
Raltevio ,
11-May-16 12:08 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Will respond to this one now. Just got back from the st...,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
11-May-16 03:35 PM, #15
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Will respond to this one now. Just got back from th...,
Kalvin (Anonymous),
11-May-16 05:00 PM, #17
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) ...,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
11-May-16 06:46 PM, #21
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) You are wrong. I liked Qinsa too.,
Lhydia,
11-May-16 07:47 PM, #25
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: You are wrong. I liked Qinsa too.,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:18 AM, #42
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Okay let me break it down a little further then..,
Lhydia,
12-May-16 09:44 AM, #48
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) incorrect,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 12:43 PM, #55
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Yeah. You're wrong and people have been uninducted for ...,
Lhydia,
12-May-16 01:09 PM, #59
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: incorrect,
Arkellin (Anonymous),
12-May-16 01:14 PM #60
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'm in the exact same boat.,
Lhydia,
12-May-16 01:25 PM, #61
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) nope,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 01:39 PM, #65
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: nope,
N b M,
12-May-16 01:41 PM, #66
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The line can be drawn farther or closer but,
Murphy,
12-May-16 01:51 PM, #67
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: incorrect,
Callixa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 02:53 PM, #71
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) If funnyone was Thelatheao then it's his best RP'd char...,
TMNS,
11-May-16 07:15 PM, #23
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It wasn't Funnyone. Thel RP'd and didn't melt down when...,
Lhydia,
11-May-16 07:48 PM, #26
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) mm,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 12:58 PM, #57
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I don't know where to start in the post but I guess I'l...,
Thelathelao (Anonymous),
12-May-16 03:49 PM, #72
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) He was Grija,
KaguMaru,
21-May-16 04:25 AM, #87
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Was?,
Murphy,
21-May-16 05:20 AM, #88
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Long post there.,
Raltevio ,
12-May-16 12:11 AM, #32
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Long post there.,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:24 AM, #45
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [None] Qinsa Rhee the Dai Sensei of the M...,
Ardish (Anonymous),
11-May-16 11:52 AM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Good riddance,
Sertius,
11-May-16 08:42 AM, #8
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Good riddance,
Callixa (Anonymous),
11-May-16 05:02 PM, #18
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Dude, try being one of two evil tribs when Gaspare was ...,
TMNS,
11-May-16 07:21 PM, #24
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Damn you!,
Abra (Anonymous),
11-May-16 06:07 AM, #6
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) THUMBS DOWN,
Kstatida,
11-May-16 03:34 AM, #4
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Just could not bring myself to like you...,
Welverin,
11-May-16 05:39 AM, #5
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) There's no reason not to stick it out when you're that ...,
Aerafr Mistwalker (Anonymous),
11-May-16 02:20 AM, #3
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: There's no reason not to stick it out when you're t...,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 09:26 AM, #46
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Being uninducted means losing power, no?,
Aerafr Mistwalker (Anonymous),
12-May-16 11:55 AM, #53
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) steaks and potatoes,
Qinsa (Anonymous),
12-May-16 01:08 PM, #58
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) ROFL,
Kstatida,
12-May-16 06:01 PM, #74
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It is better to think of CF gods....,
Vonzamir,
12-May-16 06:31 PM, #75
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It was pretty big of him to give you a warning.,
Lhydia,
12-May-16 08:17 PM, #77
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) You was the best groupmate i ever had in my many years ...,
Aesoakob (Anonymous),
11-May-16 02:08 AM, #2
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [None] Qinsa Rhee the Dai Sensei of the M...,
Umiron ,
11-May-16 12:06 AM, #1
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [None] Qinsa Rhee the Dai Sensei of the M...,
robdarken_,
11-May-16 07:51 AM, #7
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