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Mekantos | Thu 30-Jun-05 05:44 PM |
Member since 06th Dec 2003
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#9271, "RE: Just my pros and cons list."
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I've always felt that the drawbacks of conjurers (evil in particular), regarding your own abilities causing your death, suck. Sure, from a pure RP standpoint it makes complete sense that powerful extraplanar beings would get pissed off and beat your ass, but mechanics/fun-wise it blows. I've played several evil and neutral conjurers, and I always felt like I couldn't depend on my own abilities to do ANYTHING. If the same level of uncertainty that conjurers have was applied to other classes, here are some possible outcomes:
As an Anti-Paladin:
(1000hp 800m 750mv) cleave mayesha
You attempt to cleave Mayesha in half, but miss entirely!
Your axe swings wildly out of control and you decapitate yourself!
You have been KILLED!!
As an Assassin:
(750hp 350m 630mv) assassinate sev
(750hp 350m 630mv)
You creep up behind Sevarecan with your dagger held tightly in hand,
but just before you reach him you trip over a rock and fall to the ground!
A sudden pain erupts in your chest as you accidentally drive your own dagger into your heart!
Oops!
You have been KILLED!!
As a Druid:
(825hp 800m 700mv) call of the wild
You call upon the wilds for aid!
Enraged by your presence in their domain, a pack of angry wolves breaks through the surrounding foliage to feast upon you!
(825hp 800m 700mv)
A pack of angry wolves' bite MANGLES you!
A pack of angry wolves' bite MASSACRES you!
A pack of angry wolves' bite MANGLES you!
A pack of angry wolves' bite MANGLES you!
(585hp 800m 700mv) flee
flee
flee
flee
(585hp 800m 700mv) flee
A pack of angry wolves' bite MANGLES you!
A pack of angry wolves' bite MASSACRES you!
A pack of angry wolves' bite MASSACRES you!
A pack of angry wolves' bite MASSACRES you!
As a Necromancer
(700hp 1025m 700mv) c 'power word kill' velkurah
(700hp 825m 700mv)
You point a finger at Velkurah and say 'Die.'
Velkurah's will to live is too strong, and the negative energy of your spell disperses through you!
You feel a sudden, intense stabbing pain as your mind is vaporized.
You have been KILLED!!
See, it just seems like this game offers enough of a challenge without making those challenges come from your own class ability set. Does anyone else feel the same way?
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 Conjurer Summer Cleaning!
[View all] , nepenthe , Thu 23-Jun-05 12:55 AM
  im curious,,
rulanit,
25-Aug-05 02:09 AM, #78
  RE: im curious,,
nepenthe,
25-Aug-05 07:10 AM, #79
Another conjie idea.,
Pocomax,
07-Aug-05 12:04 PM, #77
I was thinking...,
rulanit,
02-Aug-05 12:47 PM, #76
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Isengrim,
16-Jul-05 11:07 PM, #72
Demons and devils and mongoose, oh my!,
nepenthe,
17-Jul-05 10:33 PM, #73
Crazy ideas.,
Mekantos,
15-Jul-05 04:12 PM, #65
You've got some seriously good points,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:18 PM, #66
Woah, wait, I just had an epiphany,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:23 PM, #67
Erm..,
Valguarnera,
15-Jul-05 05:29 PM, #68
Thought they were summoned.,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:37 PM, #71
Oooh, ooh!,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:36 PM, #70
RE: Crazy ideas.,
nepenthe,
15-Jul-05 05:33 PM, #69
I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor make a...,
incognito,
13-Jul-05 02:13 PM, #49
RE: I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor ma...,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 02:28 PM, #50
I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts,
incognito,
13-Jul-05 07:57 PM, #52
RE: I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts,
SPN,
14-Jul-05 12:02 AM, #53
They worked well for me,
incognito,
14-Jul-05 02:30 AM, #56
you know what kills me?,
rulanit,
14-Jul-05 01:09 AM, #55
Alternatively..,
Balrahd,
14-Jul-05 11:30 AM, #57
What I always wondered...,
Aodh,
14-Jul-05 03:09 PM, #58
RE: What I always wondered...,
nepenthe,
14-Jul-05 03:18 PM, #59
The capricious expert abductors,
SPN,
14-Jul-05 11:53 PM, #61
Cool... so lets make...,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 02:43 PM, #63
RE: What I always wondered...,
nebel,
14-Jul-05 04:19 PM, #60
bit of both, but,
incognito,
15-Jul-05 01:48 AM, #62
You seriously think nightgaunts are overpowered for goo...,
KoeKhaos,
15-Jul-05 02:49 PM, #64
Try playing an ap, and not being gaunted when you are a...,
incognito,
18-Jul-05 04:13 AM, #74
Totally agree,
Narissa,
18-Jul-05 05:40 AM, #75
My comments,
Perma Evil Mage,
30-Jun-05 11:29 PM, #46
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Jhyrbian,
30-Jun-05 09:12 PM, #45
Any chance of getting your familiar earlier?,
Wilhath,
30-Jun-05 06:03 PM, #43
Ideas for Angels,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #41
Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:,
nepenthe,
29-Jun-05 10:58 PM, #31
Morosa, because...,
GinGa,
30-Jun-05 05:19 AM, #34
Morosa, Mors Gravis,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 11:14 AM, #35
RE: Morosa, Mors Gravis,
nepenthe,
30-Jun-05 12:23 PM, #38
RE: Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:,
Brian S,
30-Jun-05 12:07 PM, #36
Lots of codeing for the Harmentia, but I like it. nt,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 12:15 PM, #37
Just my pros and cons list.,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 12:53 PM, #39
RE: Just my pros and cons list.,
Mekantos,
30-Jun-05 05:44 PM #42
I agree and a note.,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 08:29 PM, #44
I agree totally, this has kept me from playing higher t...,
rulanit,
14-Jul-05 01:00 AM, #54
Challegha Demon Idea & My Answer,
wretchedmongrel,
01-Jul-05 12:01 AM, #47
Some more:,
nepenthe,
27-Jun-05 10:23 AM, #26
Marry me, Neppy? (~),
vargal,
27-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #27
RE: Some more:,
Splntrd,
27-Jun-05 02:34 PM, #28
RE: Some more:,
Isildur,
29-Jun-05 11:52 PM, #32
RE: Some more:,
nepenthe,
30-Jun-05 12:44 AM, #33
A buggish thing I've been meaning to report on this cla...,
jasmin,
26-Jun-05 06:04 PM, #25
One more cosmetic request for Nepenthe,
jasmin,
25-Jun-05 09:35 PM, #23
Great job.,
Alhambra,
23-Jun-05 07:51 PM, #15
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Isildur,
23-Jun-05 04:12 PM, #11
Thank you.,
Aiekooso,
23-Jun-05 03:49 PM, #9
Devils,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #10
Maybe one extra spell to give people a *chance*,
jasmin,
23-Jun-05 05:37 PM, #12
A Devil Idea...,
wretchedmongrel,
23-Jun-05 06:21 PM, #13
RE: Devils,
Aiekooso,
23-Jun-05 08:33 PM, #16
Whoops.,
Aiekooso,
24-Jun-05 06:23 PM, #18
RE: Devils,
vargal,
24-Jun-05 06:45 PM, #19
RE: Devils,
DurNominator,
25-Jun-05 04:55 AM, #22
FYI:,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 01:27 PM, #48
Angels!,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 02:34 PM, #51
Your the man!,
jasmin,
23-Jun-05 09:02 AM, #4
Sounds hard to fix...,
GinGa,
23-Jun-05 09:04 AM, #5
I hereby declare bouncers someone else's problem.,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 09:31 AM, #6
For coding excellence, I award Nepenthe Miss Carrionfie...,
GinGa,
25-Jun-05 04:39 AM, #21
Nep is a guy :-) n/t,
Sandello,
29-Jun-05 03:35 PM, #29
This is true, but,
nepenthe,
29-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #30
Do you sense a blackjack or summon/sleep coming on or w...,
Tharena,
27-Aug-05 09:10 AM, #80
I like the limitations on conjurers in the Inn. nt,
Splntrd,
24-Jun-05 04:49 PM, #17
If that was all, I would agree.,
jasmin,
24-Jun-05 11:02 PM, #20
Ah, I didn't realize.,
Splntrd,
26-Jun-05 12:12 AM, #24
Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
GinGa,
23-Jun-05 09:01 AM, #3
RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 09:32 AM, #7
yes, they are that hard to beat,
incognito,
23-Jun-05 10:16 AM, #8
Those vampires are bitches.,
wretchedmongrel,
23-Jun-05 06:26 PM, #14
RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 01:01 PM, #40
Thumbs UP,
ORB,
23-Jun-05 01:07 AM, #1
Totally second-ed,
Narissa,
23-Jun-05 02:21 AM, #2
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