Isengrim | Sat 16-Jul-05 11:07 PM |
Member since 17th Aug 2003
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#9445, "RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!"
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Ok I havent played conjies in a while but I have read logs and kept up on the forum reading. So here is what I am getting from evil conjies.. its not that they are bad its just that they are not very user friendly. Evil conjies played by competant characters have been devastating in the past and its the mediocre and newbie people that suffer the most. So here go a couple ideas that I think would work.
First of all the difference in demons, I know we tinkered with challegha's a lot and they turned out pretty good. My take on evil conjurers is that perhaps we fall into the bigger better system that goodies have going for them. More mana = more power and better protection healing, better offense on angels etc etc. Other than the croaker, Ive seen very little difference between the other three. Got challegha that is almost an invoker demon. So would it take too much away from the other classes if the other demons were class specific? A demon that did warrior stuff (maybe even have it come up with weapons and a random spec, demon that did necro stuff?
As for devils, I like devils I think the quick fix to devils would be for them to cast more than one defensive spell on you. Like a devil that will cast aura, another casts aura and shield, and then lesser ice casts shield and barrier. For most players mostly you will still want to carry your own wands because sometimes you just cant afford to wait for the devil to cast on you but it makes conjies a little more forgiving to the newbies. Another way to go is to perhaps let a conjurer gain inherent spells from having a devil under control. Each devil grants maybe one or two spells. If evil conjies are supposed to be total beasties on offense this would make sense. The game balance issues can be easily tackled by the spells or skills you guys decide to assign to each devil. Again this follows the devil/demon for every season thing cause hey maybe you want the cool skill on the abishai but now you have to give up the barrier shield you'd get from the lesser ice. Just a few ideas feel free to shoot them down.
Whatcha think neppy?
Parv
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Conjurer Summer Cleaning!
[View all] , nepenthe, Thu 23-Jun-05 12:55 AM
im curious,,
rulanit,
25-Aug-05 02:09 AM, #78
RE: im curious,,
nepenthe,
25-Aug-05 07:10 AM, #79
Another conjie idea.,
Pocomax,
07-Aug-05 12:04 PM, #77
I was thinking...,
rulanit,
02-Aug-05 12:47 PM, #76
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Isengrim,
16-Jul-05 11:07 PM #72
Demons and devils and mongoose, oh my!,
nepenthe,
17-Jul-05 10:33 PM, #73
Crazy ideas.,
Mekantos,
15-Jul-05 04:12 PM, #65
You've got some seriously good points,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:18 PM, #66
Woah, wait, I just had an epiphany,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:23 PM, #67
Erm..,
Valguarnera,
15-Jul-05 05:29 PM, #68
Thought they were summoned.,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:37 PM, #71
Oooh, ooh!,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:36 PM, #70
RE: Crazy ideas.,
nepenthe,
15-Jul-05 05:33 PM, #69
I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor make a...,
incognito,
13-Jul-05 02:13 PM, #49
RE: I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor ma...,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 02:28 PM, #50
I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts,
incognito,
13-Jul-05 07:57 PM, #52
RE: I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts,
SPN,
14-Jul-05 12:02 AM, #53
They worked well for me,
incognito,
14-Jul-05 02:30 AM, #56
you know what kills me?,
rulanit,
14-Jul-05 01:09 AM, #55
Alternatively..,
Balrahd,
14-Jul-05 11:30 AM, #57
What I always wondered...,
Aodh,
14-Jul-05 03:09 PM, #58
RE: What I always wondered...,
nepenthe,
14-Jul-05 03:18 PM, #59
The capricious expert abductors,
SPN,
14-Jul-05 11:53 PM, #61
Cool... so lets make...,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 02:43 PM, #63
RE: What I always wondered...,
nebel,
14-Jul-05 04:19 PM, #60
bit of both, but,
incognito,
15-Jul-05 01:48 AM, #62
You seriously think nightgaunts are overpowered for goo...,
KoeKhaos,
15-Jul-05 02:49 PM, #64
Try playing an ap, and not being gaunted when you are a...,
incognito,
18-Jul-05 04:13 AM, #74
Totally agree,
Narissa,
18-Jul-05 05:40 AM, #75
My comments,
Perma Evil Mage,
30-Jun-05 11:29 PM, #46
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Jhyrbian,
30-Jun-05 09:12 PM, #45
Any chance of getting your familiar earlier?,
Wilhath,
30-Jun-05 06:03 PM, #43
Ideas for Angels,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #41
Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:,
nepenthe,
29-Jun-05 10:58 PM, #31
Morosa, because...,
GinGa,
30-Jun-05 05:19 AM, #34
Morosa, Mors Gravis,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 11:14 AM, #35
RE: Morosa, Mors Gravis,
nepenthe,
30-Jun-05 12:23 PM, #38
RE: Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:,
Brian S,
30-Jun-05 12:07 PM, #36
Lots of codeing for the Harmentia, but I like it. nt,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 12:15 PM, #37
Just my pros and cons list.,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 12:53 PM, #39
RE: Just my pros and cons list.,
Mekantos,
30-Jun-05 05:44 PM, #42
I agree and a note.,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 08:29 PM, #44
I agree totally, this has kept me from playing higher t...,
rulanit,
14-Jul-05 01:00 AM, #54
Challegha Demon Idea & My Answer,
wretchedmongrel,
01-Jul-05 12:01 AM, #47
Some more:,
nepenthe,
27-Jun-05 10:23 AM, #26
Marry me, Neppy? (~),
vargal,
27-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #27
RE: Some more:,
Splntrd,
27-Jun-05 02:34 PM, #28
RE: Some more:,
Isildur,
29-Jun-05 11:52 PM, #32
RE: Some more:,
nepenthe,
30-Jun-05 12:44 AM, #33
A buggish thing I've been meaning to report on this cla...,
jasmin,
26-Jun-05 06:04 PM, #25
One more cosmetic request for Nepenthe,
jasmin,
25-Jun-05 09:35 PM, #23
Great job.,
Alhambra,
23-Jun-05 07:51 PM, #15
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Isildur,
23-Jun-05 04:12 PM, #11
Thank you.,
Aiekooso,
23-Jun-05 03:49 PM, #9
Devils,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #10
Maybe one extra spell to give people a *chance*,
jasmin,
23-Jun-05 05:37 PM, #12
A Devil Idea...,
wretchedmongrel,
23-Jun-05 06:21 PM, #13
RE: Devils,
Aiekooso,
23-Jun-05 08:33 PM, #16
Whoops.,
Aiekooso,
24-Jun-05 06:23 PM, #18
RE: Devils,
vargal,
24-Jun-05 06:45 PM, #19
RE: Devils,
DurNominator,
25-Jun-05 04:55 AM, #22
FYI:,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 01:27 PM, #48
Angels!,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 02:34 PM, #51
Your the man!,
jasmin,
23-Jun-05 09:02 AM, #4
Sounds hard to fix...,
GinGa,
23-Jun-05 09:04 AM, #5
I hereby declare bouncers someone else's problem.,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 09:31 AM, #6
For coding excellence, I award Nepenthe Miss Carrionfie...,
GinGa,
25-Jun-05 04:39 AM, #21
Nep is a guy :-) n/t,
Sandello,
29-Jun-05 03:35 PM, #29
This is true, but,
nepenthe,
29-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #30
Do you sense a blackjack or summon/sleep coming on or w...,
Tharena,
27-Aug-05 09:10 AM, #80
I like the limitations on conjurers in the Inn. nt,
Splntrd,
24-Jun-05 04:49 PM, #17
If that was all, I would agree.,
jasmin,
24-Jun-05 11:02 PM, #20
Ah, I didn't realize.,
Splntrd,
26-Jun-05 12:12 AM, #24
Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
GinGa,
23-Jun-05 09:01 AM, #3
RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 09:32 AM, #7
yes, they are that hard to beat,
incognito,
23-Jun-05 10:16 AM, #8
Those vampires are bitches.,
wretchedmongrel,
23-Jun-05 06:26 PM, #14
RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 01:01 PM, #40
Thumbs UP,
ORB,
23-Jun-05 01:07 AM, #1
Totally second-ed,
Narissa,
23-Jun-05 02:21 AM, #2
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