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IsengrimSat 16-Jul-05 11:07 PM
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#9445, "RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!"


          

Ok I havent played conjies in a while but I have read logs and kept up on the forum reading. So here is what I am getting from evil conjies.. its not that they are bad its just that they are not very user friendly. Evil conjies played by competant characters have been devastating in the past and its the mediocre and newbie people that suffer the most. So here go a couple ideas that I think would work.

First of all the difference in demons, I know we tinkered with challegha's a lot and they turned out pretty good. My take on evil conjurers is that perhaps we fall into the bigger better system that goodies have going for them. More mana = more power and better protection healing, better offense on angels etc etc. Other than the croaker, Ive seen very little difference between the other three. Got challegha that is almost an invoker demon. So would it take too much away from the other classes if the other demons were class specific? A demon that did warrior stuff (maybe even have it come up with weapons and a random spec, demon that did necro stuff?

As for devils, I like devils I think the quick fix to devils would be for them to cast more than one defensive spell on you. Like a devil that will cast aura, another casts aura and shield, and then lesser ice casts shield and barrier. For most players mostly you will still want to carry your own wands because sometimes you just cant afford to wait for the devil to cast on you but it makes conjies a little more forgiving to the newbies.
Another way to go is to perhaps let a conjurer gain inherent spells from having a devil under control. Each devil grants maybe one or two spells. If evil conjies are supposed to be total beasties on offense this would make sense. The game balance issues can be easily tackled by the spells or skills you guys decide to assign to each devil. Again this follows the devil/demon for every season thing cause hey maybe you want the cool skill on the abishai but now you have to give up the barrier shield you'd get from the lesser ice. Just a few ideas feel free to shoot them down.

Whatcha think neppy?

Parv

  

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HOT TopicConjurer Summer Cleaning! [View all] , nepenthe, Thu 23-Jun-05 12:55 AM
Reply im curious,, rulanit, 25-Aug-05 02:09 AM, #78
Reply RE: im curious,, nepenthe, 25-Aug-05 07:10 AM, #79
Reply Another conjie idea., Pocomax, 07-Aug-05 12:04 PM, #77
Reply I was thinking..., rulanit, 02-Aug-05 12:47 PM, #76
Reply RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!, Isengrim, 16-Jul-05 11:07 PM #72
Reply Demons and devils and mongoose, oh my!, nepenthe, 17-Jul-05 10:33 PM, #73
Reply Crazy ideas., Mekantos, 15-Jul-05 04:12 PM, #65
Reply You've got some seriously good points, GinGa, 15-Jul-05 05:18 PM, #66
Reply Woah, wait, I just had an epiphany, GinGa, 15-Jul-05 05:23 PM, #67
     Reply Erm.., Valguarnera, 15-Jul-05 05:29 PM, #68
     Reply Thought they were summoned., GinGa, 15-Jul-05 05:37 PM, #71
     Reply Oooh, ooh!, GinGa, 15-Jul-05 05:36 PM, #70
Reply RE: Crazy ideas., nepenthe, 15-Jul-05 05:33 PM, #69
Reply I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor make a..., incognito, 13-Jul-05 02:13 PM, #49
Reply RE: I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor ma..., nepenthe, 13-Jul-05 02:28 PM, #50
Reply I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts, incognito, 13-Jul-05 07:57 PM, #52
Reply RE: I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts, SPN, 14-Jul-05 12:02 AM, #53
     Reply They worked well for me, incognito, 14-Jul-05 02:30 AM, #56
Reply you know what kills me?, rulanit, 14-Jul-05 01:09 AM, #55
Reply Alternatively.., Balrahd, 14-Jul-05 11:30 AM, #57
     Reply What I always wondered..., Aodh, 14-Jul-05 03:09 PM, #58
     Reply RE: What I always wondered..., nepenthe, 14-Jul-05 03:18 PM, #59
     Reply The capricious expert abductors, SPN, 14-Jul-05 11:53 PM, #61
          Reply Cool... so lets make..., GinGa, 15-Jul-05 02:43 PM, #63
     Reply RE: What I always wondered..., nebel, 14-Jul-05 04:19 PM, #60
     Reply bit of both, but, incognito, 15-Jul-05 01:48 AM, #62
          Reply You seriously think nightgaunts are overpowered for goo..., KoeKhaos, 15-Jul-05 02:49 PM, #64
               Reply Try playing an ap, and not being gaunted when you are a..., incognito, 18-Jul-05 04:13 AM, #74
                    Reply Totally agree, Narissa, 18-Jul-05 05:40 AM, #75
Reply My comments, Perma Evil Mage, 30-Jun-05 11:29 PM, #46
Reply RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!, Jhyrbian, 30-Jun-05 09:12 PM, #45
Reply Any chance of getting your familiar earlier?, Wilhath, 30-Jun-05 06:03 PM, #43
Reply Ideas for Angels, SPN, 30-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #41
Reply Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:, nepenthe, 29-Jun-05 10:58 PM, #31
Reply Morosa, because..., GinGa, 30-Jun-05 05:19 AM, #34
Reply Morosa, Mors Gravis, SPN, 30-Jun-05 11:14 AM, #35
Reply RE: Morosa, Mors Gravis, nepenthe, 30-Jun-05 12:23 PM, #38
Reply RE: Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:, Brian S, 30-Jun-05 12:07 PM, #36
Reply Lots of codeing for the Harmentia, but I like it. nt, SPN, 30-Jun-05 12:15 PM, #37
Reply Just my pros and cons list., Eskelian, 30-Jun-05 12:53 PM, #39
Reply RE: Just my pros and cons list., Mekantos, 30-Jun-05 05:44 PM, #42
     Reply I agree and a note., Eskelian, 30-Jun-05 08:29 PM, #44
     Reply I agree totally, this has kept me from playing higher t..., rulanit, 14-Jul-05 01:00 AM, #54
Reply Challegha Demon Idea & My Answer, wretchedmongrel, 01-Jul-05 12:01 AM, #47
Reply Some more:, nepenthe, 27-Jun-05 10:23 AM, #26
Reply Marry me, Neppy? (~), vargal, 27-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #27
Reply RE: Some more:, Splntrd, 27-Jun-05 02:34 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Some more:, Isildur, 29-Jun-05 11:52 PM, #32
     Reply RE: Some more:, nepenthe, 30-Jun-05 12:44 AM, #33
Reply A buggish thing I've been meaning to report on this cla..., jasmin, 26-Jun-05 06:04 PM, #25
Reply One more cosmetic request for Nepenthe, jasmin, 25-Jun-05 09:35 PM, #23
Reply Great job., Alhambra, 23-Jun-05 07:51 PM, #15
Reply RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!, Isildur, 23-Jun-05 04:12 PM, #11
Reply Thank you., Aiekooso, 23-Jun-05 03:49 PM, #9
Reply Devils, nepenthe, 23-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #10
     Reply Maybe one extra spell to give people a *chance*, jasmin, 23-Jun-05 05:37 PM, #12
     Reply A Devil Idea..., wretchedmongrel, 23-Jun-05 06:21 PM, #13
     Reply RE: Devils, Aiekooso, 23-Jun-05 08:33 PM, #16
     Reply Whoops., Aiekooso, 24-Jun-05 06:23 PM, #18
     Reply RE: Devils, vargal, 24-Jun-05 06:45 PM, #19
     Reply RE: Devils, DurNominator, 25-Jun-05 04:55 AM, #22
     Reply FYI:, nepenthe, 13-Jul-05 01:27 PM, #48
          Reply Angels!, nepenthe, 13-Jul-05 02:34 PM, #51
Reply Your the man!, jasmin, 23-Jun-05 09:02 AM, #4
Reply Sounds hard to fix..., GinGa, 23-Jun-05 09:04 AM, #5
Reply I hereby declare bouncers someone else's problem., nepenthe, 23-Jun-05 09:31 AM, #6
Reply For coding excellence, I award Nepenthe Miss Carrionfie..., GinGa, 25-Jun-05 04:39 AM, #21
     Reply Nep is a guy :-) n/t, Sandello, 29-Jun-05 03:35 PM, #29
          Reply This is true, but, nepenthe, 29-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #30
               Reply Do you sense a blackjack or summon/sleep coming on or w..., Tharena, 27-Aug-05 09:10 AM, #80
Reply I like the limitations on conjurers in the Inn. nt, Splntrd, 24-Jun-05 04:49 PM, #17
     Reply If that was all, I would agree., jasmin, 24-Jun-05 11:02 PM, #20
          Reply Ah, I didn't realize., Splntrd, 26-Jun-05 12:12 AM, #24
Reply Got a tweak for those damned vampires?, GinGa, 23-Jun-05 09:01 AM, #3
Reply RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?, nepenthe, 23-Jun-05 09:32 AM, #7
     Reply yes, they are that hard to beat, incognito, 23-Jun-05 10:16 AM, #8
     Reply Those vampires are bitches., wretchedmongrel, 23-Jun-05 06:26 PM, #14
     Reply RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?, Eskelian, 30-Jun-05 01:01 PM, #40
Reply Thumbs UP, ORB, 23-Jun-05 01:07 AM, #1
     Reply Totally second-ed, Narissa, 23-Jun-05 02:21 AM, #2
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