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#64525, "RE: Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid po..."
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>Either that or you lie about playing a lot of conjurers.
I HAVE played a lot of conjurers, and that's why I know that the points I made are valid.
>Not having blockers mastered by 40?
I RARELY have defenses mastered by 40, conjurer or otherwise. I sincerely don't understand why you're shocked at this. Unless I'm playing an elf/drow who tanks all the time from character creation, or unless I sit down to play some day with the express purpose of mastering defenses, then it's very unlikely that I'll have them mastered by level 40. This is even more true on a mage, even a conjurer.
>Having only non-water shifters as groupmates?
MOST shapeshifters are non-water shifters, and shifters in general are one of, if not THE MOST, commonly played classes. So basically, this condition comes down to having a group composed of conjurer and two shifters. Why you think this is some ridiculous condition baffles me.
>Eating damage from EVIL ranking mobs at a pace when archon can't heal it?
Yes. Happens all the time. Granted this is mostly the case when I haven't taken the time to gather a decent set of +hp gear, but even with basic hp gear it can happen, especially when you can only get a luminous archon.
>Drawing up a picture of not being able to flash blind a frost giant in frigid wastelands?
This is you twisting words. I actually never said say anything about not being able to flash blind frost giants. I just said that frost giants can dirt kick archons as well, so it's yet another ranking area that is going to nerf a conjurer's ability to tank. When I posted that, I hadn't yet seen Umiron's post about mobs not being able to dirt kick someoe they're not already fighting. However, that being said, I'm pretty sure I've seen my archon drawn into battle even when the mob was blinded. Since I rarely log my sessions, I'll have to work on recreating the situation to get a log of it.
And since you brought it up, flashing frost giants as a goodie conjie is risky business because there are all those camouflaged trail rangers scattered around the area, and the trail rangers are all good-aligned. So any use of area spells runs the risk of hitting a goodie mob.
> >What kind of preconditions are those?
Very reasonable, common ones.
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Re: Archon and dirt kick from mobs
[View all] , Destuvius, Sun 14-Aug-16 07:48 PM
Thread locked.,
Umiron,
16-Aug-16 06:57 PM, #69
Clarification Within:,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 06:08 PM, #38
RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs,
conjurer (Anonymous),
14-Aug-16 08:37 PM, #3
Put it this way,
Bemused,
14-Aug-16 08:45 PM, #4
RE: Put it this way,
Umiron,
14-Aug-16 08:54 PM, #5
Fortunately, I am not Bemused or anyone like him,
conjurer (Anonymous),
14-Aug-16 09:15 PM, #6
RE: Put it this way,
Bemused,
14-Aug-16 10:14 PM, #7
You need to stop.,
Aereglen,
15-Aug-16 11:34 AM, #17
+1 (n/t),
N b M,
15-Aug-16 11:44 AM, #19
You know whats strange?,
Beront (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 11:57 AM, #20
RE: You know whats strange?,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 12:15 PM, #21
I'm talking on the subject, I don't need to read his of...,
Beront (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 12:23 PM, #22
It's Valg change, one that he was widely criticized for,
Kstatida,
15-Aug-16 12:42 PM, #23
The problem that it WAS WORKING but,
Beront (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 12:45 PM, #24
Easy,
Kstatida,
15-Aug-16 12:52 PM, #25
Look for ranking areas.,
Beront (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 01:01 PM, #26
This is just not true, at all,
conjurer (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 02:13 PM, #28
Didn't see Umiron's post about blind mobs,
conjurer (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 02:22 PM, #30
RE: Didn't see Umiron's post about blind mobs,
incognito,
16-Aug-16 11:16 AM, #55
I doubt that,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 12:26 PM, #57
Sounds like you don't know how to fight mobs?,
incognito,
15-Aug-16 04:01 PM, #32
RE: Sounds like you don't know how to fight mobs?,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 03:20 AM, #47
Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid point,
Kstatida,
15-Aug-16 05:00 PM, #33
RE: Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid po...,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 02:48 AM #45
Unfortunately,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 04:45 AM, #48
You're being very ridiculous in your arguments,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 05:56 AM, #50
RE: You're being very ridiculous in your arguments,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 09:28 AM, #52
RE: You're being very ridiculous in your arguments,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 09:33 AM, #53
The change is not recent,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 10:17 AM, #54
erroneous post nt.,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 12:33 PM, #58
How is this REMOTELY a good example of conjurer "god-mo...,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 12:34 PM, #59
Thank you for proving my point,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 12:46 PM, #61
I call BS,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 03:46 PM, #62
This,
mage,
15-Aug-16 12:58 PM, #27
RE: You know whats strange?,
N b M,
15-Aug-16 03:05 PM, #31
RE: You know whats strange?,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 05:15 PM, #34
Eh.,
Lhydia,
15-Aug-16 05:31 PM, #35
Only problem I have re: mob AI...,
TMNS,
15-Aug-16 07:24 PM, #39
You miss the point, again.,
Aereglen,
16-Aug-16 02:00 AM, #43
You started the Offtop,
Beront (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 02:53 AM, #46
Look again.,
Aereglen,
16-Aug-16 04:07 PM, #63
My congratulations,
Beront (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 05:03 PM, #64
Let me get this straight,
Bemused,
16-Aug-16 05:24 PM, #65
Look at what they said.,
Aereglen,
16-Aug-16 06:25 PM, #67
Your constant pandering to the immortals has made you n...,
Bemused,
16-Aug-16 06:55 PM, #68
This topic is not about bugs. n/t,
Lhydia,
16-Aug-16 05:57 PM, #66
RE: You need to stop.,
Bemused,
15-Aug-16 05:37 PM, #36
RE: You need to stop.,
Destuvius,
15-Aug-16 06:04 PM, #37
Oh, thats why you anathemed me?,
Beront (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 12:43 AM, #40
Sorry I RPed with you on an RP mud. nt,
Destuvius,
16-Aug-16 04:45 AM, #49
Hah,
N b M,
16-Aug-16 07:11 AM, #51
RE: You need to stop.,
Aereglen,
16-Aug-16 01:59 AM, #44
Question re: this change,
Tac,
15-Aug-16 10:42 AM, #14
Because that would make archon conjies unPKllable,
Kstatida,
15-Aug-16 11:07 AM, #15
So what's stopping you,
incognito,
15-Aug-16 01:28 AM, #9
Mobs also redirect now.,
TMNS,
15-Aug-16 02:19 AM, #10
Archon morale,
conjurer (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 05:44 AM, #11
Umiron, thiiiiiiiiiiiisssss! n/t,
Lhydia,
15-Aug-16 09:07 AM, #12
Well argued,
incognito,
16-Aug-16 01:28 AM, #41
RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 11:43 AM, #18
RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs,
Jormyr,
16-Aug-16 01:47 AM, #42
RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs,
stlucian1992,
16-Aug-16 12:26 PM, #56
I would 100% endorse this. n/t,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 12:39 PM, #60
erroneous post nt.,
conjurer (Anonymous),
14-Aug-16 08:35 PM, #2
Because it is stupid and makes the class mostly unplaya...,
Lhydia,
14-Aug-16 08:17 PM, #1
I played before and after the change and I like it.,
laxman,
14-Aug-16 10:16 PM, #8
Can NPCs target the archon while blind?,
lasentia,
15-Aug-16 09:18 AM, #13
RE: Can NPCs target the archon while blind?,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 11:21 AM, #16
RE: Can NPCs target the archon while blind?,
lasentia,
15-Aug-16 02:14 PM, #29
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