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conjurer (Anonymous)Tue 16-Aug-16 02:48 AM
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#64525, "RE: Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid po..."


          

>Either that or you lie about playing a lot of conjurers.

I HAVE played a lot of conjurers, and that's why I know that the points I made are valid.


>Not having blockers mastered by 40?

I RARELY have defenses mastered by 40, conjurer or otherwise. I sincerely don't understand why you're shocked at this. Unless I'm playing an elf/drow who tanks all the time from character creation, or unless I sit down to play some day with the express purpose of mastering defenses, then it's very unlikely that I'll have them mastered by level 40. This is even more true on a mage, even a conjurer.

>Having only non-water shifters as groupmates?

MOST shapeshifters are non-water shifters, and shifters in general are one of, if not THE MOST, commonly played classes. So basically, this condition comes down to having a group composed of conjurer and two shifters. Why you think this is some ridiculous condition baffles me.

>Eating damage from EVIL ranking mobs at a pace when archon can't heal it?

Yes. Happens all the time. Granted this is mostly the case when I haven't taken the time to gather a decent set of +hp gear, but even with basic hp gear it can happen, especially when you can only get a luminous archon.

>Drawing up a picture of not being able to flash blind a frost giant in frigid wastelands?

This is you twisting words. I actually never said say anything about not being able to flash blind frost giants. I just said that frost giants can dirt kick archons as well, so it's yet another ranking area that is going to nerf a conjurer's ability to tank. When I posted that, I hadn't yet seen Umiron's post about mobs not being able to dirt kick someoe they're not already fighting. However, that being said, I'm pretty sure I've seen my archon drawn into battle even when the mob was blinded. Since I rarely log my sessions, I'll have to work on recreating the situation to get a log of it.

And since you brought it up, flashing frost giants as a goodie conjie is risky business because there are all those camouflaged trail rangers scattered around the area, and the trail rangers are all good-aligned. So any use of area spells runs the risk of hitting a goodie mob.

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>What kind of preconditions are those?

Very reasonable, common ones.

  

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HOT Locked TopicRe: Archon and dirt kick from mobs [View all] , Destuvius, Sun 14-Aug-16 07:48 PM
Reply Thread locked., Umiron, 16-Aug-16 06:57 PM, #69
Reply Clarification Within:, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 06:08 PM, #38
Reply RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs, conjurer (Anonymous), 14-Aug-16 08:37 PM, #3
Reply Put it this way, Bemused, 14-Aug-16 08:45 PM, #4
Reply RE: Put it this way, Umiron, 14-Aug-16 08:54 PM, #5
     Reply Fortunately, I am not Bemused or anyone like him, conjurer (Anonymous), 14-Aug-16 09:15 PM, #6
     Reply RE: Put it this way, Bemused, 14-Aug-16 10:14 PM, #7
     Reply You need to stop., Aereglen, 15-Aug-16 11:34 AM, #17
          Reply +1 (n/t), N b M, 15-Aug-16 11:44 AM, #19
          Reply You know whats strange?, Beront (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 11:57 AM, #20
          Reply RE: You know whats strange?, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 12:15 PM, #21
          Reply I'm talking on the subject, I don't need to read his of..., Beront (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 12:23 PM, #22
          Reply It's Valg change, one that he was widely criticized for, Kstatida, 15-Aug-16 12:42 PM, #23
               Reply The problem that it WAS WORKING but, Beront (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 12:45 PM, #24
                    Reply Easy, Kstatida, 15-Aug-16 12:52 PM, #25
                    Reply Look for ranking areas., Beront (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 01:01 PM, #26
                    Reply This is just not true, at all, conjurer (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 02:13 PM, #28
                         Reply Didn't see Umiron's post about blind mobs, conjurer (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 02:22 PM, #30
                         Reply RE: Didn't see Umiron's post about blind mobs, incognito, 16-Aug-16 11:16 AM, #55
                              Reply I doubt that, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 12:26 PM, #57
                         Reply Sounds like you don't know how to fight mobs?, incognito, 15-Aug-16 04:01 PM, #32
                         Reply RE: Sounds like you don't know how to fight mobs?, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 03:20 AM, #47
                         Reply Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid point, Kstatida, 15-Aug-16 05:00 PM, #33
                              Reply RE: Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid po..., conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 02:48 AM #45
                                   Reply Unfortunately, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 04:45 AM, #48
                                        Reply You're being very ridiculous in your arguments, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 05:56 AM, #50
                                             Reply RE: You're being very ridiculous in your arguments, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 09:28 AM, #52
                                                  Reply RE: You're being very ridiculous in your arguments, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 09:33 AM, #53
                                                       Reply The change is not recent, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 10:17 AM, #54
                                                       Reply erroneous post nt., conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 12:33 PM, #58
                                                       Reply How is this REMOTELY a good example of conjurer "god-mo..., conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 12:34 PM, #59
                                                       Reply Thank you for proving my point, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 12:46 PM, #61
                                                       Reply I call BS, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 03:46 PM, #62
                    Reply This, mage, 15-Aug-16 12:58 PM, #27
          Reply RE: You know whats strange?, N b M, 15-Aug-16 03:05 PM, #31
               Reply RE: You know whats strange?, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 05:15 PM, #34
                    Reply Eh., Lhydia, 15-Aug-16 05:31 PM, #35
                    Reply Only problem I have re: mob AI..., TMNS, 15-Aug-16 07:24 PM, #39
          Reply You miss the point, again., Aereglen, 16-Aug-16 02:00 AM, #43
               Reply You started the Offtop, Beront (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 02:53 AM, #46
                    Reply Look again., Aereglen, 16-Aug-16 04:07 PM, #63
                         Reply My congratulations, Beront (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 05:03 PM, #64
                         Reply Let me get this straight, Bemused, 16-Aug-16 05:24 PM, #65
                         Reply Look at what they said., Aereglen, 16-Aug-16 06:25 PM, #67
                              Reply Your constant pandering to the immortals has made you n..., Bemused, 16-Aug-16 06:55 PM, #68
                         Reply This topic is not about bugs. n/t, Lhydia, 16-Aug-16 05:57 PM, #66
          Reply RE: You need to stop., Bemused, 15-Aug-16 05:37 PM, #36
               Reply RE: You need to stop., Destuvius, 15-Aug-16 06:04 PM, #37
               Reply Oh, thats why you anathemed me?, Beront (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 12:43 AM, #40
                    Reply Sorry I RPed with you on an RP mud. nt, Destuvius, 16-Aug-16 04:45 AM, #49
                         Reply Hah, N b M, 16-Aug-16 07:11 AM, #51
               Reply RE: You need to stop., Aereglen, 16-Aug-16 01:59 AM, #44
     Reply Question re: this change, Tac, 15-Aug-16 10:42 AM, #14
          Reply Because that would make archon conjies unPKllable, Kstatida, 15-Aug-16 11:07 AM, #15
Reply So what's stopping you, incognito, 15-Aug-16 01:28 AM, #9
Reply Mobs also redirect now., TMNS, 15-Aug-16 02:19 AM, #10
Reply Archon morale, conjurer (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 05:44 AM, #11
     Reply Umiron, thiiiiiiiiiiiisssss! n/t, Lhydia, 15-Aug-16 09:07 AM, #12
     Reply Well argued, incognito, 16-Aug-16 01:28 AM, #41
Reply RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 11:43 AM, #18
     Reply RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs, Jormyr, 16-Aug-16 01:47 AM, #42
          Reply RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs, stlucian1992, 16-Aug-16 12:26 PM, #56
               Reply I would 100% endorse this. n/t, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 12:39 PM, #60
Reply erroneous post nt., conjurer (Anonymous), 14-Aug-16 08:35 PM, #2
Reply Because it is stupid and makes the class mostly unplaya..., Lhydia, 14-Aug-16 08:17 PM, #1
     Reply I played before and after the change and I like it., laxman, 14-Aug-16 10:16 PM, #8
          Reply Can NPCs target the archon while blind?, lasentia, 15-Aug-16 09:18 AM, #13
               Reply RE: Can NPCs target the archon while blind?, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 11:21 AM, #16
                    Reply RE: Can NPCs target the archon while blind?, lasentia, 15-Aug-16 02:14 PM, #29
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