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#64460, "RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs"
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RANT rant/ verb verb: rant; 3rd person present: rants; past tense: ranted; past participle: ranted; gerund or present participle: ranting
1. speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way. "she was still ranting on about the unfairness of it all" synonyms: fulminate, go on, hold forth, vociferate, sound off, spout, pontificate, bluster, declaim;
The log was literally only 3 rounds of combat (plus an echo from the Rip skill at the beginning, and one from Mountain Storm Kick in the middle) showing the mob dirt kicking the archon without the archon already being engaged in combat, which I posted for the sake of anyone who hasn't played a conjurer since this NPC behavior began.
And the "rant" as you called it was exactly 10 lines of text which covered exactly why I think it should be changed. The only thing that needed to be edited out of it was the part saying I wasn't sure if it was an intentional change or a bug.
So here's what I had to say, minus the one part about not being sure if it was a bug or an intentional change, and some added comments to justify each statement's purpose for being in my post, and why it's not ranting.
1.)The purpose of conjuring an archon is to allow the conjurer to actually tank something.
This really is the purpose of an archon. Therefore, not a ranting statement.
2.) It's totally legit for a PLAYER to dirt kick an archon to draw it into battle to prevent it from healing the conjurer as a tactic to PK said conjurer.
Acknowledgement of a valid tactic that I have no problems with, stated to show that I'm not asking for archons to be completely impervious to being drawn into combat.
3.) However, when common ranking mobs are doing this every fight, it TOTALLY ineffectualizes the conjurer as a tank for a ranking party, and makes archons completely useless for ranking; since the conjurer then has to flee, wait for the archon to leave the battle, and then return to keep on fighting.
Accurate description of what I have been experiencing with my recently rolled conjurer. If I was going to post solid proof of this, I would have posted the ENTIRE log of me fighting the ghasts in Eil Shaeria, which would have showed me having to flee from every single fight before the ghast could be killed.
I was there with an assassin who was a pretty solid tank in his own right (he tanked my elemental, blazing archon, phase wasp, and me earlier when he was trying to PK me, before we made peace and joined up, and was thoroughly kicking my archon's ass), but the ghasts were still beating him down pretty good. As for me, the archon was getting dirt kicked so often, we would have been better off with an angel and the assassin tanking than to have an archon along. As soon as the archon got drawn in, I'd promptly get my ass handed to me and have to flee, and hopefully not flee into more hostile ghasts.]
p.s. My original post had FAR less lines of text than this, and was more concise and to the point, but now I've had to add in more explanation of my points to demonstrate that my points were wholly valid, logical arguments, not a "rant" of "speaking or shouting at length in a wild, impassioned way."
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Re: Archon and dirt kick from mobs
[View all] , Destuvius, Sun 14-Aug-16 07:48 PM
Thread locked.,
Umiron,
16-Aug-16 06:57 PM, #69
Clarification Within:,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 06:08 PM, #38
RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs,
conjurer (Anonymous),
14-Aug-16 08:37 PM #3
Put it this way,
Bemused,
14-Aug-16 08:45 PM, #4
RE: Put it this way,
Umiron,
14-Aug-16 08:54 PM, #5
Fortunately, I am not Bemused or anyone like him,
conjurer (Anonymous),
14-Aug-16 09:15 PM, #6
RE: Put it this way,
Bemused,
14-Aug-16 10:14 PM, #7
You need to stop.,
Aereglen,
15-Aug-16 11:34 AM, #17
+1 (n/t),
N b M,
15-Aug-16 11:44 AM, #19
You know whats strange?,
Beront (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 11:57 AM, #20
RE: You know whats strange?,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 12:15 PM, #21
I'm talking on the subject, I don't need to read his of...,
Beront (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 12:23 PM, #22
It's Valg change, one that he was widely criticized for,
Kstatida,
15-Aug-16 12:42 PM, #23
The problem that it WAS WORKING but,
Beront (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 12:45 PM, #24
Easy,
Kstatida,
15-Aug-16 12:52 PM, #25
Look for ranking areas.,
Beront (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 01:01 PM, #26
This is just not true, at all,
conjurer (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 02:13 PM, #28
Didn't see Umiron's post about blind mobs,
conjurer (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 02:22 PM, #30
RE: Didn't see Umiron's post about blind mobs,
incognito,
16-Aug-16 11:16 AM, #55
I doubt that,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 12:26 PM, #57
Sounds like you don't know how to fight mobs?,
incognito,
15-Aug-16 04:01 PM, #32
RE: Sounds like you don't know how to fight mobs?,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 03:20 AM, #47
Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid point,
Kstatida,
15-Aug-16 05:00 PM, #33
RE: Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid po...,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 02:48 AM, #45
Unfortunately,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 04:45 AM, #48
You're being very ridiculous in your arguments,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 05:56 AM, #50
RE: You're being very ridiculous in your arguments,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 09:28 AM, #52
RE: You're being very ridiculous in your arguments,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 09:33 AM, #53
The change is not recent,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 10:17 AM, #54
erroneous post nt.,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 12:33 PM, #58
How is this REMOTELY a good example of conjurer "god-mo...,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 12:34 PM, #59
Thank you for proving my point,
Kstatida,
16-Aug-16 12:46 PM, #61
I call BS,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 03:46 PM, #62
This,
mage,
15-Aug-16 12:58 PM, #27
RE: You know whats strange?,
N b M,
15-Aug-16 03:05 PM, #31
RE: You know whats strange?,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 05:15 PM, #34
Eh.,
Lhydia,
15-Aug-16 05:31 PM, #35
Only problem I have re: mob AI...,
TMNS,
15-Aug-16 07:24 PM, #39
You miss the point, again.,
Aereglen,
16-Aug-16 02:00 AM, #43
You started the Offtop,
Beront (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 02:53 AM, #46
Look again.,
Aereglen,
16-Aug-16 04:07 PM, #63
My congratulations,
Beront (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 05:03 PM, #64
Let me get this straight,
Bemused,
16-Aug-16 05:24 PM, #65
Look at what they said.,
Aereglen,
16-Aug-16 06:25 PM, #67
Your constant pandering to the immortals has made you n...,
Bemused,
16-Aug-16 06:55 PM, #68
This topic is not about bugs. n/t,
Lhydia,
16-Aug-16 05:57 PM, #66
RE: You need to stop.,
Bemused,
15-Aug-16 05:37 PM, #36
RE: You need to stop.,
Destuvius,
15-Aug-16 06:04 PM, #37
Oh, thats why you anathemed me?,
Beront (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 12:43 AM, #40
Sorry I RPed with you on an RP mud. nt,
Destuvius,
16-Aug-16 04:45 AM, #49
Hah,
N b M,
16-Aug-16 07:11 AM, #51
RE: You need to stop.,
Aereglen,
16-Aug-16 01:59 AM, #44
Question re: this change,
Tac,
15-Aug-16 10:42 AM, #14
Because that would make archon conjies unPKllable,
Kstatida,
15-Aug-16 11:07 AM, #15
So what's stopping you,
incognito,
15-Aug-16 01:28 AM, #9
Mobs also redirect now.,
TMNS,
15-Aug-16 02:19 AM, #10
Archon morale,
conjurer (Anonymous),
15-Aug-16 05:44 AM, #11
Umiron, thiiiiiiiiiiiisssss! n/t,
Lhydia,
15-Aug-16 09:07 AM, #12
Well argued,
incognito,
16-Aug-16 01:28 AM, #41
RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 11:43 AM, #18
RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs,
Jormyr,
16-Aug-16 01:47 AM, #42
RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs,
stlucian1992,
16-Aug-16 12:26 PM, #56
I would 100% endorse this. n/t,
conjurer (Anonymous),
16-Aug-16 12:39 PM, #60
erroneous post nt.,
conjurer (Anonymous),
14-Aug-16 08:35 PM, #2
Because it is stupid and makes the class mostly unplaya...,
Lhydia,
14-Aug-16 08:17 PM, #1
I played before and after the change and I like it.,
laxman,
14-Aug-16 10:16 PM, #8
Can NPCs target the archon while blind?,
lasentia,
15-Aug-16 09:18 AM, #13
RE: Can NPCs target the archon while blind?,
Umiron,
15-Aug-16 11:21 AM, #16
RE: Can NPCs target the archon while blind?,
lasentia,
15-Aug-16 02:14 PM, #29
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