Mon Feb 24 05:03:20 2003


10 o''clock PM, Day of the Bull, 8th of the Month of the Dark Shades on the Theran calendar Xandrya perished, never to return.

This is by far one of the most difficult things I have ever tried to do. But I learned what I wanted to from it. I will probably not return any time soon. If ever.

Nurwon...Xandrya loved you, you big giant.
Kalmah...I can't even comment about right now. You were the reason Xandrya lived...and the reason she died. Enough said.
Zekasiq...you know how I feel about you.
Gastaad ...you were right, Kalmah was everything you said he was. I should have listened. Good luck to you and Aneriasha.
Sebastiano...find yourself a woman in Sentrynn Modan, maybe she'll even like you.

To all the rest of you who made this character's life a memorable one...thank you for the interaction.

Bria...I loved the visit with you and I actually was going to give you an answer to your question, but I couldn't stay alive long enough to make it back to your shrine.

Farewell to you all...may you enjoy killing each other forever. Personally I don't enjoy killing people so this is not the place for me.

*wave*

A: I don't know what you learned from this that means you will never return, but i'm interested.
B: If you don't like killing people i suggest you never set yourself up as the herald of a new empire which may be rather contentious.
C: Nothing personal with the notes ;o)

A. I learned that CF has a great bard skill and song system. Which was the reason I played to begin with and the reason I made a bard. I never dreamed that I would rank all the way to the 40th level or that I would get married. Or that I would become the hearld of a rising Empire. Why might I never play again? Simply because it is too time consuming and also because it becomes so immersive for me that it actually was giving me nightmares. Tells you how good it is, but also how bad it can be fo the health.


B. I would never have been the herald of the Empire if I hadn't married Kalmah. I did not know at the time I married him that he was going lead the Empire though I did know he had an interest in it. My role dictated that I support him in his cause, no matter what the consequences might be.

C.I didn't take your notes personnaly...actually found them to be kind of funny.

yeah if this is giving you nightmares, you need to back off for a bit. That or perhaps not take it so seriously. The key is moderation. Most of my characters don't see more than an hour or two a day, unless my wife is gone and I go on a binge for a day or two heh. Also I'd not recommend Scions if your were getting nightmares with your bard.

I have nightmares about the Silent Tower, and I'm entirely serious. Props to Nepenthe for that.

And Xandrya...a good effort. I saw you a lot in the guild, and I tried to be friendly towards you, but you may not have seen it. I get a lot of tells and I'm seldom just sitting around. I was proud of you, for all you did.

-Aenail

Hey,Aenail!

Yeah I saw you a lot too and really appreciated your tips. The one time I really ever saw a bard fight was when you and Kalmah were sparring. While I never was able to use what I learned from that in a Pk situation, it did help against hordes.

I always thought I would see you die of alcohol poisoning, but I guess you can hold your liquor pertty well.

And thanks for the props. It's nice to have someone say they were proud of me. I think I did darned well for character # 1.

I won't pretend I know what really happened, but whatever it was, you must be taking it too personal. Perhaps that is why I do not like IC marriages, but still, you shouldn't allow any other to influence your character so. If your husband turns out to be a filthy horned demon, roll with it.

You seemed to be a fun person, but I am sorry you didn't stick around longer. I really hope you get back with something different, perhps as a healer of peace if you don't like killing people? Anyhow, good luck with life and all that.

Ashok.

The marriage thing wasn't personal OOC, but it was very personal IC...for reasons dictated by Xandrya's role. And she was so con depleted it was time to give up, especially since someone decided she needed to die. That someone would make sure she did no matter what. So why waste time trying to save her when she was basically doomed anyway?

beecaauusee......you could have perhaps done a vitality quest by the IMMs. our roleplay seemed solid enough that they may have taken pity and allowed you to. AND if you woulda told me who tried to ensure your death, I coulda ensured THEIR death one way or another. *sighs* no one is never doomed, just in trouble and in need of help.

Nurwon Du'Roth

> our roleplay seemed solid enough that they may have taken pity and allowed you to.

meant to say YOUR roleplay but slipped on the y. my roleplay sucks

I really liked your character, but there are a lot of things going on right now that I'm not sure I like. (i.e. Kalmah) I don't think you should drop the mud so fast, especially when your a decent role player. I would try again with a different class, probably a hiding class. Also check out some of the older forum topics on how to stay alive, would probably help you a lot. See ya later.

You were one of my favorite characters to interact with.

Take good care of Shokai.

I will never forget the wedding ceremony that you did. It was GREAT! I loved the dagger and blood thing you did, and I even changed Xandrya's description to show the scar it left. Unfortunately that ceremony spelled the beginning of the end for me, for reasons I won't go into here.

I am having second thoughts about leaving for good. I might come back when I have the time perhaps on a Saturday if I'm bored.

ok.......I have no idea what I just read there. I'll reiterate what Ashok said and not take whatever crap happened with that marriage personally. I would really recommend that you reconsider quitting. a few things that seemed to go wrong in your life is A) people knew you were new to CF which kinda worked in and against your favor...good because people may take pity on you and not kill you or maybe even help you more. bad because now the multi-killing, gear hording newbie killers wanted some easy PK's. If you had made it a few ranks higher I would have assumed that things woulda turned out different but alas I couldn't help that much with Nurwon having the grove/village/scions/warlocks/maran upset with him at one point or another. At the title you were, all the hero goodies couldn't help you and that is a prime spot for level sitting evil bastards.

On the note of your char you RP kinda impressed me for a self proclaimed newbie but I was kinda unsure of this whole you having a "child" thing that turned out to be another player...I still can't believe you deleted before me..that day I in the inn where Nurwon seemed hopeless was my setup to delete, but between YOU and that smart mouthed cloud warrior I decided to live a bit a longer . some other things I'd say but don't wanna considering they're about chars that are still alive, but if you wanna email me I'm at Whitetiger2k2@msn.com

hope you don't quit for good, you just got a bad taste of CF

-Nurwon Du'Roth

I will send you an e-mail as there are lots of things I'd like to explain to you.

Not many people will roleplay with a pre-pk unempowered paladin.

But you had no problems with it, and for that I give you much thanks in helping me.

In my opinion there isn't anyone that is not worth roelplaying with. Each individual no matter how new has value and potential to become something great.

One of Xandrya's main themes in her discussions with people was that everyone had value. She often spoke about not being bigotted or prejudiced, and even about being forgiving and seeking peace with people. What amazes me is that she was so sweet and caring about others even though they often did nothing more than take advantage of her in one way or another. She was just too good for the situation she eventually ended up in, even though she would be the first to tell you she wasn't a saint.

Well, sad to see you go. I enjoyed each of our interactions, and I thought you were a very well played character. I remember first meeting you and thinking that you would just be a normal bard I saw a lot, but it ended up being more than that. I am curious about what happened the last week or so of Xandrya's life, because I wasn't around to experience it as my RP has dictated other things. Drop me an email some time, I'd like to hear more about the IC things that occurred.

dleaf27@hotmail.com

Gorth

I think I may have had somewhat of a hand in your bad time, but
there were reasons behind all of it. In all honesty as I was typin
away at my computer plotting your death I really felt kinda shitty
about the whole thing, because I knew that you were pretty new
to this game and werent really ready for the smack that others
tend to lay down. But you have to admit you kinda set yourself
up for it by jumpin on with Kalmah.

If I were you, before you think about quitting. Try out something else. Something a bit more friendly for newer people. A bard is a relatively easy class to play in the grand scheme of things, but
I find that groupmates of bards really expect a lot from you.

Oh hell this is gonna turn out too long.
If you want..contact me at davidaugist@yahoo.com.

Like I said I shoulda listened to you. I just could never tell who was lieing and it just always seemed morelikely that it was you.

I'll send you an e-mail and explain further.

We didn't interract that much as I would like to.
What can I say... a shame that I missed the squabble. I have no doubt that it wouldn't happen.
Now, don't be angry on others. They are playing characters, and sometimes they have to betray/kill/lie. Even to a wifes.
Take a deep breath. Think of them - bastards! Make a character and kill, kill, KILL THEM!
(damned mask. Always drives me mad.)

I would have liked to have interacted with you more too.

If you read my reply to Kalmah, you'll see that Xandrya was really in support of the Empire. I would have loved to continue being the scribe and trying to convince people to join us. Kalmah wasn't the best diplomat and as his character began to change, I could see where MAYBE Xandrya could be somewhat the diplomatic arm of our group while Kalmah was more the defender/warrior type. But I guess my "loving" husband didn't see it that way. *sigh* I think between Zekasiq and I, we were able to talk poeple into at least listening to our story, whether it turned out to be true or not remains anyone's guess. If I hadn't deleted, I might still have been in Empire if you had wanted me to be. But I don't know how you really felt about Xandrya, maybe you agreed with Kalmah that she was weak and should be eliminated. *shrug*

Damnit, Xandrya!

At least you could speak to me or Zekasiq before delete, and most likely your fate would be different.

About Kalmah... I cannot speak of him now, and recommend you not to reveal so much. There are many players, who didn't interract with him yet, and they can form a false impression due to your words.
When our characters die, I'll be happy to dicsuss his character's personality.

Don't give up, and, by the way, are you male of female behind the character? I'd say, female. Ready to bet... bet... bet 1,000 gold coins.

I can't bet with you because I don't have 1,000 gold coins and you would win!

Kalmah, youre dumb, you lost so pretty chick!
No offense.

And Xandrya, I won't call you back, since real life is much better. But when you have a lot of time, or when you are on the work and have nothing else to do but play some MUD, damnit, play that MUD.

And, Kalmah turned to another woman. That happens all the time, and mostly, in RL. What, you are going to delete youreself should your boyfriend leave you? Nah. You would be pissed off, but would not rage delete (at least, I hope you are not stupid enough for that, since in RL you won't have anti-rage-deletion feature).

I think you allready regretting for your deletion. Suffer, suffer, next time you won't do it!

Good luck. I quit the flame, it's time to... no, I won't tell you.

What is that...did I miss it. I guess I did...maybe I should have used it huh? Yeah Oh well. And yes I am definitely regretting my hasty decision. *sigh*

So yeah well I'll be back.

As I know, if you relogin (or if you didn't delete twice (i.e. typed delete;delte, relogined, and did it again), you have a week to change your mind and to return.
Am I correct?

And immortals, how do you think, in this situation it is too late for Xandrya to return? And if so (or not), would you explain your opinion perhaps?

As I know, if you relogin (or if you didn't delete twice (i.e. typed delete;delte, relogined, and did it again), you have a week to change your mind and to return.
Am I correct?

Nope. The grace period only kicks in if you delete right after a death. Xandrya will remain dead.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

I didn't delete so much because of the divorce/getting dumped for another woman. That part of it I could handle both IC and OOC. But rather I seriously thought Kalmah wanted me dead and was going to have me pk'd into oblivion by Yurtag and whoever else he might decide to have hunt me. That I really didn't want to deal with. Like I said though I definitely am regretting it now.

*kicks self in butt*

Hey. I hadn't even checked this board till I checked my in-game notes today. I really must say I *need* to find out what the hell went on here. That'll all be dealt with IC, as everything should, but I can say now that I'm not liking it, I guess.

At any rate... You did really well with this character. I was very impressed with your RP. Your problem was that you were a newbie that took on way too much and drew attention to yourself. If you would not have married Kalmah, I think your life would have been a lot longer. By doing that you already drew lines and showed affiliation which, although the marriage part was really good RP-wise I'm sure, caused you to have instant enemies.

Speaking about your character itself, and you as a player, you are a fantastic RPer. CF is a HARSH, HARSH game when it comes to being a good RPer and bad PKer. You simply can't survive long enough to go from Galadon to the Inn to RP if you don't know how to stay alive at all. I think that you should try a different character combination and run with it. Maybe try not to draw as much attention to yourself... ( i.e. NO MARRIAGES! )

Anyway, I hope you make another character.

You better!

...or else.

I learned a lot and only you know exactly how much.

Yeah the marriage thing was fun at first, but put me into a situation I wasn't really ready for. Had I been ranked higher when we married, it might have been a different story.

Or if I had had some really good tips, training , whatever on how to survive the pk environment as a bard. I'm still trying to figure that one out.

You know me...I'll get over it and be back.

I really didn't see you around much, such a shame. I was really hoping to plunge depper into some interaction with you.
'Luck with your next.

was it good for you?
I thought it was fun.

You made me laugh so HARD! You were really funny...and probably one of the pk deaths I didn't mind so much because there was a good RP reason for it. I loved our little chats...despite the fact that Xandrya found them rather unnerving.

Sorry about the whole attempted Multi-Kill thing, I attacked you once, and killed you on my own terms. Then once you were dead I was bombarded by tells from various heros telling me to "DO IT AGAIN!", was kind of hard for Yurtag to refuses all the possible rewards for killing you, especially since he couldn't find a reason not to kill you. As a player, I didn't want to do it, as Yurtag, he loved it.

You have the *potential to do really well, don't quit, roll a Paladin, then you can sit around the Inn all you want and never have to fear PK, or you can take vengence on those evil, evil heros. Just leave the Mino.

Good luck with whatever you do, mud or not.


* I've met and interacted with you with characters before this.

*mutters something about political correctness* ok what I meant to say is... (looks to IMMS for the ok to continue) I abhor the thoughts that our hero characters are encouraging the multi-killing of a newbie. regardless of role or whatnot this information should be taken into account. and by doing so I had reccomended that they would pay a closer examination of their rectums but apparently this is not ok to say so I would just like to tell them to reconsider their actions...thank you have a nice day

-Quiddie

1) I certainly wouldn't bust down a minotaur warrior for being brutal. I'd probably hand them free XP if they did it with style while I was watching.

2) Xandrya isn't an innocent bystander. She made herself the voice of an organization with goals that would impact a lot of people. If you're going to write lots of notes telling people how they better play ball or face forced subjugation, you should accept that some characters are well within bounds to bash you into next Friday.

Those who seek to destroy the orderly lives of Thera's peoples and those who are by nature opposed to civilized society will likely oppose the rise of the Empire and, while we view this as most unfortunate, bloodshed will occur.

A veiled threat is still a threat.

One of the cooler things about Carrion Fields being a PK-allowed MUD is that when your enemy talks about conquering the world, you can give them an axe-flavored reality check. Otherwise, you're just having an emote-fight off in some corner, and that gets old fast. It's the same philosophy I use when running quests- it's one thing to hang around and chat, and I have fun doing that as well, but for the more serious rewards, I'm going to put you in harm's way and/or make you puzzle out some real dilemmas.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

as having a character that saw Xandrya on a fairly regular basis, all I saw was a newbie that seemed to have a knack(sp) for RPing but just needed tips on how to PK.

I know all about the importance of RP and how this new empires gonna stir the pot, but all that goes off topic from what I mean. I saw her get married to Kalmah and thus getting sucked into this whole empire thing. she tried to RP with it a bit but all that seemed to happen was her becoming a widely known name thus making her a target...which can be extremely harsh on someone thats new.

So I was just flaming (thats right I admit it was just a flame) all those that had 100% knowlege of her skill and time spent in CF, then just going and multikilling her anyway.

Does that mean, that should I make a minotaur, I'll be allowed, or even more, rewarded for multikilling?
I don't see how minotaur race is related to the rules.
But who am I, just a player, who plays YOUR game, dear owner.
Anarchy!

I don't see how minotaur race is related to the rules.

Could you cite the rule that he violated by killing Xandrya more than once, given that he had good reason to? I can't find it.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

I just re-readed rules, and found them remade since I've read them last time. Good. Now I can kill just unghosted maran, track him down, and kill again - I have a good reason.
Or, if I'm a lich, I'll kill kill kill just unghosted people. I would have a good reason - phylacteries my character would need!

its just a shitty thing to do, but far from against the rules. else all of Scion/Maran/and Sylvan would be banned right now

And I knew one person who got his character denied for that. A rager, who slew mage at the pit four times. (not I, though, hell!)

You're either on drugs or thinking of another mud.

No offense.

I've been around since year one and I can't ever remember CF having such a rule, though many of its imitators apparently did.

'? MUD?

I remember Scarabaeus sitting in the Realm of Dead there and cursing them for now letting him in with his real name. If it was him, of course... lol.

Then, we all got our characters deleted, for mass kill, I believe.

Hey, perhaps we shall repeat it one day? CF team agains... well.. which MUD is on top? Would be an epic story.

Returning to the question. I'm pretty sure it happened in CF. I'll try to find a log, though I doubt I saved it (I don't store logs of the non-hero characters or of non-successful caracters (i.e. non-funny)).

Drugs, you say? Not yet. ;P

I was playing *gasp* a battlerager-wannabe assassin. I tripped this gnome mage into oblivion and he started to mouth off. I told him if he kept it up I was going to kill him again. He taunted so I killed him again. He taunted me again and I killed him. He taunted me again and I killed him. He taunted me again and I killed him. I think at the end of the day I took 2 con from him.

I then get shroomed up to the ROTD and told that if I don't stop I'll get myself denied. Now, either this gnome was an immortal's character, or an unofficial "no multi-killing" rule has been enforced in the past.

Outside of internal cabal rules, there's never been an official rule against multi-killing, just the social difficulties that come with it (getting the same treatment in return). Some cabals have frowned on it, others have commanded it, even shifting within the same cabal with leader changes or in regards to certain people.

So you weren't in a cabal, and an Immortal said to stop. Are you sure they didn't mean you to stop something else you were doing? If you're positive, then it does indeed look like someone was enforcing an unofficial rule against multikilling. I expect that Immortal is gone nowadays, as they apparently needed a better grasp of the rules they were trying to enforce. If they're still around, they certainly know their position better by now.

--Quislet,
I'm my own special brand of annoying.

No multikilling was in fact a rather brutally enforced rule in years gone by. It was right after the implementation of con lowering for deaths. The imm opinion at the time, best as I recall, was that multikilling was con targeting someone, and that was an OOC thing to be doing to someone IC. I got reamed out once for killing someone three times in one day, because he kept talking smack to me. As it stands now, three times in an hour is alright, but back then if you didn't have a REALLY solid excuse for anything over 2, odds are you were in for some time in good old 1212.

Not sure where you're getting this...

I've been around since CF has been around, and you might be LOOKED DOWN UPON by other people for "killing recently unghosted people"... but all is fair in love and war, is it not?

If you're playing sphere Honor, that might be the only exception.

that you should play your role and stick to it. those opposed to the imperials would be expected to slay Kalmah but I think they should have eased up on Xandrya. not all minos have to be multi-killing SOB's but my post was not referring to Yurtag. it was to those others that encouraged him to do it repeatedly to a newbie that landed in an unfortunate situation. *coughs in Thornarcrulls direction*

Not me, not me.
But Xandrya roleplayed very nice, and, trusting Kalmah's opinion, I let her in. Sorry Xandrya... I shouldn't, but you would post these notes anyways!

Read my reply to Kalmah.

Yes I didn't really expect to be in the middle of this storm of political intrigue. And yes it got me badly pk'd and beat up. But that ISN'T why I died. I actually liked the whole Empire thing.

What made rage-delete was the fact that Kalmah turned his back on me. Not only did he turn his back, but actually wanted me dead. When Yurtag told Xandrya that he was killing her because Kalmah told him too, that was basically the last straw. Had I gotten over my rage at the time...and not deleted I could have still moved forward one way or another. Either with the Empire or against it, or maybe just against Kalmah. Maybe I would have tried to win him back...there are lots of ways it could have gone...but now we'll never know.

*I've met and interacted with you with characters before this. ?????

This is my first character...unless you mean you had another character that interacted with Xandrya.

If so I'd be interested to know who it was.

Nooooooo! Damnit you will be missed. And you shall be avenged.
How could you forget to mention me? Vashka always considered you like a little sister. A shame your gone.

To be honest, when I deleted I was far to upset at the time to say much of anything about anyone.

Vashka was and is cool and was one of Xandrya's best friends. I know he was very close to Kalmah too before he became a power-hungry sob.

I was really hoping to go out ranking with you again soon and was also hoping I could talk you into joining the Empire. As it turned out Kalmah made that impossible by turning into a truly black-hearted jerk! Oh well, go give him hell for me!

Yeah, IC I am very pissed at Kalmah and the wheels are in motion. Still sad to see the person I saw as close as a sister go. I tried to get Yurtag for you after it happened but I cannot keep him from running, oh well, he will get his too.

Well, what can I say. You had a lovely character, very well-played.
Kalmah's intentions were to try and turn you into a bard war-machine, but it never worked out. It was my first marriage on CF, and it turned out to add to the RP experience, but detract from the action. The dependency Xandrya felt for Kalmah made it hard to denounce you, even as a player!

But that final step had to be made to seperate the ex-Herald, drunk Kalmah to the seemingly cold-hearted, Imperial Kalmah. A sweet and kind half-elf bard is not the ideal mate for a "power-hungry facist." The time you mentioned "Scotia" before our marriage got me a bit excited I almost slipped OOC to say I was from Ireland. Thought you were from Scotland or something.

I am sorry you did not have all that good a time, and for the Kalmah marriage that ended your life. But, hey, well done at the end there! So emotional and dramatic. Do come back.

Cheers

The Herald Kalmah was wonderful and he was the character that Xandrya fell in love with. You can be a REAL charmer! Getting to know him in the Inn and running around with him for gear, the proposal, marriage, and all of that was really fun. And it says a lot for your RP abilities that you are doing a geat job with changing him from the kind drunk fun guy to black-hearted power-monger.

What you failed to realize I think, is that Xandrya would have continued to back him no matter what, even when she started to see the changes in him. Her role was such that her whole life became dedicated to Kalmah and his cause whether it was good/evil/or indifferent, I don't think that you realized that though. She continued preaching the word for the Empire in hopes that people would believe her and rally to Kalmah's cause. If he had let her continue to be his diplomat he might have gained more people into the Empire. The pen truly can be mightier than the sword especially when it comes from a sweet beautiful bard that people trust. I was constantly getting tells from people who were interested and wanted to know more about it.

I also was really trying to gain ranks with her and would have...and in fact very SERIOUSLY wanted to fight along side you for the cause. She was only 723 exp from rank 41 at which level I could have gone learning with Nurwon and he would have helped me rank up. I suffered a lot of deaths though and it seemed like everyone who hated Kalmah was out to get Xandrya if they could. Multiple assassinations didn't help much at all. I probably would never have rage-deleted if you hadn't sicked Yurtag on her like that though.

Xandrya might have become the vengeful angry ex-wife and done all in her power to defeat Kalmah's little Empire scheme when he dumped her for Shil'Uzar OR she may have tried to win you back by becoming what you wanted her to be all along. But I was too upset OOC by the multiple pking by Yurtag and I figured you really wanted her dead and gone so that was why I deleted. Now Xandrya has become a martyr of sorts and I think you're going to find she had a lot of friends that aren't going to be happy with Kalmah. May they avenge her death a thousand times over!

I actually learned more than you think I did about being a bard. I'm certainly not the best at it by a long shot, but I can back a group quite well now. The sad thing is Xandrya was just at the point where I was finally using her songs very well in battle. Too bad you turned on her, because she really COULD have been an asset for you. I know I raged about getting killed a lot. Some of that was out of frustration OOC, but I tried to keep it IC when she got angry about it...but a lot of it was just Xandrya being a VERY emotional female.

And I knew you were from Ireland when we talked and Kalmah said he was from Erin. I am not personally from Scotland, but my grandmother was and I have a lot of heritage from there. Some day I want to visit Scotland if I can.

When Kalmah kicks the bucket, (and I do hope he gets his just desserts soon) I hope we'll get the chance to interact again with different characters, you can be a lot of fun.

Please don't feel bad about marrying Xandrya and trying to mold her. I do want you to understand that even though the whole marriage, political intrigue, empire thing probably ended up contributing to Xandrya's early demise, it also was what I enjoyed the most when playing. I just wish she had been higher ranked and I had been a little more experienced to deal with the pk aspect of it. So while it lead to death after death...the depth of the roleplaying I think was well worth it. Kalmah's interest in Xandrya taught me an awful lot actually. You took the time to help me find gear, helped me find people to rank with and tried your best early on to protect me. And you were just plain fun to be with too. (That kiss on the feasting room table was ...ummm yeah...yummy )

If Kalmah hadn't asked Xandrya to marry him, she may have hooked up with Gastaad, Moligant, Thelios or any other number of people and ended up in a similiar predicament. Though probably not so badly controversial. She was, for the most part, a lover not a fighter, and that was her downfall. My own fault for rage deleting which I'm kind of regretting now.

Also I HOPE I haven't revealed too much about your character here. (I tend to be verbose sometimes)

As I said before I think you're a great player and I'd like to interact with you in the future. Good Luck.

The one interaction I had with you that really stands out, was Mirdulad at the Crossroads. He had your group slept, and I came running in and killed him. Then some of the people you were with and I started discussing the morality of dealing death in the service of life. It was interesting. I liked interacting with you.

If you would, drop me an email at esmi02202@aol.com , I've got a few questions I'd like to ask you, and since some of it involves some things Esmi has going on currently, I don't want to ask on the forums. Thanks, and good luck with your next!

It was me, Cylenthalion, and Kalmah... I couldn't hit Mirdulad, but in you came and killed him before they even woke up. I didn't notice, but she could have been there as well. Though not with us I don't think...

Strange, I don't remember this at all. I don't think
that I play drunk..... jeez, I sure hope I don't.

I know it was kalmah for sure though. I figured it was the time we were going to arial city...

I don't remeber this at all. I don't think I was there.

What I DO remember is when Xandrya was really young and she was dating Silenius...she went with him to an interview with you about becoming one of the Dawn. I was really impressed with Esmi and tried to show her a lot of respect. I remember specifically asking Silenius what would happen if Xandrya left him, because he was telling you that she was part of his inspiration and reason for living or some such thing. I wanted him to know that she probably wasn't going to stick with him for too long, and that he'd better find a better reason than just his feelings for her, if he was going to be an Acolyte. His answer was quite good and showed that he really understood the whole Hope and Faith thing. I was really glad for him when he got accepted.

The memory becomes faulty at my age, heh. I know you were there for the discussion about the morality of killing, I could have SWORN you were a part of the group too. But then again, like I said it may be the memory playing tricks on me. Damn memory.

I remeber the discussion, but not the fight. If Kalmah and Cylenthalion were there I was probably just with them but not grouped, since they far outranked me then.

Oh, Cylenthalion doesn't even get an honorable mention? I always thought that you were a fairly new player, and was very impressed on how much you helped the Empire. I always felt bad that I couldn't help you fight off your attackers, and was hoping to make up for it when you ranked a bit higher, a shame, but great job on the char. You really shouldn't leave, I always enjoy it when I meet great RPer's

*Hugs Cylenthalion*

Your mention would most definitely be "honorable" and then some.

I just was soo upset when I deleted I didn't mention many people at all.

You were only the "noble" hero that Xandrya found to be the most attractive man in all of Thera. You did save her life at least twice that I recall and for that I thank you very much. I really wish we had had more chance to interact, you were always very nice to her.

I will be back...just had to get over a little rage. and I'm kicking myself all over the place for it now. Ah well too late, now though.

Good luck to you and don't break all the girl's hearts!

Now, I grant this was your first time around and everything, so this isn't a bash but a pointer:

Xandrya (if I'm remembering correctly) had this huge elaborate role. What it didn't do, is explain to me why this chaotic neutral sphere chaos bard was writing these Empire notes, or why she professed interest in this religion and then that one.

I think a lot of us were scratching our collective heads over that. Granted, I can guess at parts of it, but I think you probably could have neatly explained the Empire dealie in a one-sentence role addition. That's the kind of thing that typically helps us out a lot more as immortals than long backstories and the like.

Honest answer...her alighnment/ethos and shpere I pretty much randomly picked because being my first character at creation and level 10 brand newbie, I had no idea what would become of her life when I started her. I didn't even expect to get past level 20 to be honest. I had no idea what CF would be like ...what opportunities might open up for her..nothing to go on really.

I wanted to have her sphere changed to Love actually and talked to Bria about that. As I looked at things and how she lived her life in the early days she was searching for love...Then she found it with Kalmah. The Empire thing she did because basically she was asked to by Kalmah, who she loved, was married to, and wanted to support. Then she became convinced that it would be a good thing for all Therans. Bria had asked her to find out for herself what love was and come back and talk to her about it. I was going to have her do that, but killed her off before I did. So that's it basically. And yeah I should have updated her role about the Empire thing but didn't get around to it.

What can I say it was a fun time trying to assassinate someone that bar sits alot. But Hey I finnally got you. Shame you don't like the pk enviroment. But never know once you get use to it. and become a killer yourself, you might just like it. I suggest you try another class, before givning up completly.

With everything I've seen about you here and heard about you in game, I'm sorry I never made time to RP with you. I'm sure it would've been worthwhile. Although I'm sorry you're dead, I'm intrigued at the way RP is going among people your death has affected.

If that anti-rage delete option mentioned below is implemented, I'd suggest that your injured/unconscious body was found not-quite-dead by a nearby healer, and they've spent this time nursing your health back. Thus, like someone in the real world, rumors of your death have been greatly exaggerated. Or maybe you were simply dead for tax purposes. (see the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy trilogy for that reference)

--Quislet,
I'm my own special brand of annoying.

Actually it's better that she's dead at this point and that she remains dead. Her death has changed and influenced the whole RP environment for all the people she had an influence on.

It's absolutely amazing to me that she had so much influence on the lives of so many Therans. Actually I have Kalmah to thank for a lot of that. He introduced her to people she probably otherwise would never have gotten to know.

I know some people who think that CF is all about PKing. And for some players that may be true. But the fact that this uncabaled bard who never had even one PK could have this much influence on the lives of so many tells you what can be done purely through roleplaying.

In retrospect I have to say that most of it was really very fun.

Don't forget to thank Vashka and Nurwon too, they seem to be carrying on your memory quite well.

I prefer RP to PK myself, though it helps that you can try to kill people you'd have an IC reason to.

--Quislet,
I'm my own special brand of annoying.

I totally agree! Vashka and Nurwon were really great to rp with and were wonderful friends. And pking people with an IC reason too is fine. I just never got the hang of doing it with the bard skills I had...at least not alone. At level 40 I had songs that would have helped me do that if I had wanted to...mainly the song "when you don't see me" and "sleep". It actually took me that long to get really good at using the songs. If I had not deleted I probably would have tried gruoping with certain people who shall remain nameless and gone after other people who shall remain nameless. Because I would have had very good reasons to.

Really, I wasn't going to have you multi-killed. I do not believe in that, for that takes away any semblance of RP. It becomes solely hack and slash. In fact, if you had remained alive I would have liked to see what your charcacter became. My character is becoming mightily interesting, but I cannot reveal much here.

But, come to think about it, you had no real chance to finish the development of your character, with or without the Empire. Now you can move on with your experiences and make a decent shot for Hero!

As of yet, many of our friends have turned against me. I think they may have gotten too much information here, instead of letting my character try and manipulate them. Your words kind of took a step out of RPing the reasons. But, that is alright.

Good news is, I will probably not be able to control all of this hatred directed towards me. Well, perhaps I will. Time will tell.
And most definitely come to Ireland (or Scotland, I guess *mutters*) Beautiful, friendly.

Erin go Braugh!

From how quickly the rumor mill picked up on things after her death, it looks like you may have been rumored to be the cause of her death even before it was mentioned here. Even if it was begun by a forum reader mentioning it in game, the stories spread like wildfire. I'm afraid you've got some trouble on your hands, Kalmah.

I still have no clue IC or OOC if you really did anything to get her to die, but people IC sure think so.

--Quislet,
I'm my own special brand of annoying.

Again I'm kicking myself because it would have been kind of fun to see where I took her after our break up...but yeah I can live with starting a new one. And actually I didn't post anything about you here or what happened until after these things were brought out in game by at least some people. I probably did say more than I should have here though...and I am sorry about that.

I already have another character that I'm working on. We'll see how far she gets..actually I think I might have two, but I'm working on only one at a time.

I wonder if maybe you have an AIM handle or an e-mail address that I might contact you at? I know you can't talk about what's going on with Kalmah here, but I would like to know how things go for him if you're willing to share that with me.

If you use AOL or AIM my handle is XandryaDL

I would love to get in touch with you. For more information on your Chatting programs and such, my email is aaron@myway.com
Do hope to hear from you.

Wait, wait. My email is aaronwilson@myway.com
Sorry about that, lass!

Just so you know I got all my info ic I hadn't even been here yet when I talked with you.

n/t

That's enough on that particular subject, the post and response were up long enough to get your point across.

Getting a reputation for being a mudsexer can potentially make life hard for your character. So if you feel that's really something you have to do, then you should make absolutely sure that you don't do it anywhere that you might be found out.

If you are all quite finished, I get the picture and the point. As I said below I will not be doing any marriages or any other intimate realtionships anymore at CF.

For anyone else that even thinks about going this route with a character, I would suggest that you don't because there are no places that aren't "public". Even the remotest spots can be found and walked into by others, especially if they are hidden or invisible.

While this should all have been kept private as Quislet and "some person" so nicely pointed out, it wasn't and that ruins it.

So now that you have all publically humiliated me and Kalmah let it go already. It won't happen again I assure you.

Now, if the powers that be would like to remove this thread I would be most grateful, but even if they don't...lesson learned, enough said, please drop it.

Well said, Xandrya.

If you have something positive to post, feel free, or something constructive, feel free. Any posts on mudsex, any attempts at humor will be deleted. All the negative and supposedly 'constructive' posts were up long enough. They're deleted now. Let's keep it (relatively) clean. Xandrya, kudos to you for not stooping to the level of many who felt the need to sling mud.

Hey, I've tried it with a certain male shifter while playing a beautiful half-elven invoker Myrissalha. It was very interesting too. I mean he actually wooed me and started giving me trinkets to show his love. Can't remember if we married but we 'did' it in SilverWoods, previously called something else.

Yes, I am a guy in RL and married with a kid but I'm RPing my character. It was pure clean fun and RP in terms of Myrissalha character-building as would any male-female would happen in RL. Don't ever think my wife can swallow if she was behind me watching my screen. LOL!

Yes it is a bit gross is you are a male like I am, but all in good fun. I believe the Imms allow those who can pull it off for the privacy of 2 characters and allow it. I've also seen others doing it in Galadon bedroom while I was a thief. Heh... I just kept it to myself and walked away. It is something married couples should be doing or lovers.

Don't put off the good RP becoz of some players who can't take it.You are doing very well as Xandrya and I hope to see more of your kind of dedication to other of your characters. And yes my character has interacted with you before.

Thanks for the non-flame understanding. I hold somewhat the same point of view. Though to be honest, it can sometimes get out of hand and become more graphic than I like it to be. Xandrya was a character that was very sexy and searching for love so it would naturally follow that she would behave the way she did.

I happen to be a real romantic at heart and I enjoy playing romantic type characters. In that type of RP I really enjoy the wooing, dating, and affectionate stuff more than what might go on beyond that. I have to say that Kalmah was really good at being sweet, caring, affectionate, and all of that. Which is why I agreed to marry him.

I was reading the annotated Dragonlance chronicles (yes I know I'm a dork heh), and Tracy Hickman described it as a "boot scene". Every time Tanis and Kitiara were about to get it on they would pull off each other's boots, and it would flash to the next morning. It's much more entertaining/enjoyable if some or all is left up to the reader's imagination.