Isildur | Fri 30-Dec-11 12:43 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#42239, "RE: my attempt at a solution (long)"
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>Crazy as it sounds to you, I kind of think that IS the main >balancing purpose of the current system. :p
Possibly. I didn't design it so I can't speak to the intent of the designers. Though, if that's the case, then I think it's a bad way to attempt to "balance" the "unbalancedness" of a mage who has found all of his sleek wands.
If mortals having the "slay" command would be unbalanced, then it would be unbalanced even if it were only given to 10% of them randomly and then only for the last 50 hours of the character's life.
>I mean, let me know if you played >one and disagree with me - it'd be nice to hear a different >view from someone who can PK.
None of my mages ever find their wands, so I can't comment. Your description sounds pretty accurate. Players who aren't that good at PK will still die with ASB. Good players will still (rarely) die with ASB (usually up against a huge gang). But it makes a huge difference. I'm not disputing that.
>I agree your way maintains the exploration element and I wish >it wasn't buried in tongi's thread, but I think it makes >full-time ABS even easier.
"Easier" is the wrong word. It makes it less likely that some mages will be without ASB because they just can't find the damn things. It makes it less likely that players will roll mages, find their wands, then delete because they perceive their locations to represent a severe disadvantage (relative to other mages w/ easier locations).
If you think "mage who has found ASB" is too powerful, then consider upping the repop timers on sleek wands so that even mages who have found their locations are forced to use the charges judiciously.
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Wand lists, etc.
[View all] , tongni12, Tue 03-Jan-12 03:22 PM
A suggestion,
Krathreal,
04-Jan-12 02:54 AM, #138
Don't worry...,
Jhyrbian,
03-Jan-12 02:56 AM, #136
RE: Don't worry...,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:59 AM, #144
Don't worry...,
Zulghinlour,
29-Dec-11 07:54 PM, #100
Rolling a rager. nt,
Artificial,
29-Dec-11 07:58 PM, #2
Right on lets do dis #### nt,
Runaktla,
31-Dec-11 10:07 PM, #107
Ah, the Napalm strategy.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 07:59 PM, #3
I'm not joking...,
Zulghinlour,
29-Dec-11 08:04 PM, #4
On the contrary, it's a win/win,
Tsunami,
29-Dec-11 08:07 PM, #6
I love you, so please don't take this as argumentative.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:11 PM, #7
RE: I love you, so please don't take this as argumentat...,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 08:36 PM, #13
Again, this involves treating the symptoms, not the dis...,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:53 PM, #16
RE: Again, this involves treating the symptoms, not the...,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 09:01 PM, #17
Sulye would have been nerfed or denied under what I pro...,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:04 AM, #35
RE: Sulye would have been nerfed or denied under what I...,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:47 AM, #42
Forgive me. I was drunk last night. Thank god I didn'...,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:21 PM, #78
I like this idea,
Elerosse,
29-Dec-11 08:24 PM, #10
Depends:,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 08:40 PM, #14
RE: Depends:,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:19 AM, #28
And you say we players are emotional.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:09 AM, #36
Its like the doomsday switch,
Oldril,
31-Dec-11 05:36 PM, #101
Best. Santa Zulg. Ever.,
Scrimbul,
29-Dec-11 11:15 PM, #24
Yep,
AXera,
29-Dec-11 11:53 PM, #26
This is assuming a LOT.,
Tesline,
04-Jan-12 01:42 PM, #139
How is this any better than just making the prep knowle...,
Gaplemo,
29-Dec-11 11:41 PM, #25
RE: How is this any better than just making the prep kn...,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:18 AM, #27
RE: How is this any better than just making the prep kn...,
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 12:49 AM, #29
Of course,
Gaplemo,
30-Dec-11 01:21 AM, #32
Why not just stop all the secrecy then?,
Oldril,
31-Dec-11 05:37 PM, #102
That's naive,
incognito,
01-Jan-12 07:08 AM, #110
Of course.,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 12:54 AM, #120
RE: Of course.,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:03 PM, #133
It's about damn time,
Grudan,
30-Dec-11 05:01 AM, #34
I like this idea IF.... You leave the store bought prep...,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:06 AM, #45
RE: I'm not joking...,
The Heretic,
30-Dec-11 04:08 PM, #91
Longer fights,
Lightmage,
02-Jan-12 11:44 AM, #130
Please see my newbie boosts on Gameplay,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:28 PM, #135
Please remove preps for a week or two.,
Void,
25-Jan-12 09:44 PM, #140
RE: I'm not joking...,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:48 AM, #142
It doesn't sound like a horrible idea.,
Lhydia,
29-Dec-11 08:15 PM, #8
DO IT,
Gaspar,
29-Dec-11 08:17 PM, #9
I like that people race for it,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 03:48 PM, #131
Hahaha!,
Conundrum,
29-Dec-11 10:31 PM, #22
Please come back. We miss you Panda.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:10 AM, #37
Please don't punish us for a few jerks :(,
highbutterfly,
30-Dec-11 03:55 AM, #33
I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 07:19 AM, #39
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 09:16 AM, #41
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Elerosse,
30-Dec-11 09:50 AM, #43
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:51 AM, #44
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 10:31 AM, #52
Actually, I'm not sarcastic. ,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 10:49 AM, #55
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
JoeCloud,
30-Dec-11 01:12 PM, #77
What about strengthening detect artifact?,
JoeCloud,
30-Dec-11 04:03 PM, #90
Add more wand locations and the advantage of having a w...,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #49
Horrible idea,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 01:40 PM, #84
I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Amberion,
30-Dec-11 10:48 AM, #54
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 10:57 AM, #57
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Elerosse,
30-Dec-11 12:04 PM, #70
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Kamuela_,
31-Dec-11 08:41 PM, #104
As someone who likes to play elves and dark elves,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 03:52 PM, #132
Umm,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:17 PM, #134
RE: Umm,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 05:11 AM, #145
I endorse this solution.,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:44 AM, #141
Wow, this whole thing really got out of hand.,
TripHitNdip (Anonymous),
30-Dec-11 07:02 PM, #97
The only time people complain about sleeks ...,
Bell,
30-Dec-11 04:58 PM, #93
More solutions,
Anghwyr,
30-Dec-11 04:25 PM, #92
Another solution,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Dec-11 01:32 PM, #81
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #60
Ok, I'll bite.,
tongni12,
30-Dec-11 11:43 AM, #68
RE: Ok, I'll bite.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:00 PM, #76
No, but I remember them,
tongni12,
30-Dec-11 01:28 PM, #80
RE: No, but I remember them,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:41 PM, #85
Both those were clouds I thought.,
lasentia,
30-Dec-11 06:04 PM, #96
RE: Both those were clouds I thought.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:24 PM, #99
RE: Ok, I'll bite.,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 11:59 AM, #137
It has been a great run.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 12:08 PM, #71
Hah CF on Ebay!,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 12:10 PM, #72
I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 12:20 PM, #73
RE: I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:24 PM, #74
RE: I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:24 PM, #79
I blame Isildur! And a lack of Imm fest!,
lasentia,
30-Dec-11 06:00 PM, #95
RE: I blame Isildur! And a lack of Imm fest!,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:23 PM, #98
#### a college fund, Zulg needs beer money :),
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:33 PM, #82
RE: Hah CF on Ebay!,
Grudan,
30-Dec-11 01:59 PM, #86
Please don't give up on CF,
Valkenar,
30-Dec-11 03:08 PM, #89
I think your premise is wrong...,
Tac,
30-Dec-11 05:03 PM, #94
Not to sound like a jerk but....,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:53 AM, #143
my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #50
Thumbs up from me,
Jad_Hoven,
30-Dec-11 10:47 AM, #53
Sleeks already have a level requirement,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 10:56 AM, #56
RE: Sleeks already have a level requirement,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:20 AM, #64
With the illusionary change,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:22 AM, #65
RE: With the illusionary change,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:26 AM, #67
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #58
So if I want to completely ruin a strong char,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:01 AM, #59
RE: So if I want to completely ruin a strong char,
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:11 AM, #61
I can only think of a few items,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:19 AM, #63
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Knac,
30-Dec-11 11:15 AM, #62
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:25 AM, #66
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:59 AM, #69
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 12:43 PM #75
I agree with Malakhi.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:39 PM, #83
Don't like this.,
fist-law,
31-Dec-11 06:15 PM, #103
RE: Don't like this.,
Daevryn,
31-Dec-11 09:12 PM, #105
I say quit ####ing around and go for it. Threats and th...,
Lhydia,
31-Dec-11 09:17 PM, #106
That doesn't change the fact,
incognito,
01-Jan-12 07:06 AM, #111
Exactly. Which is why it won't ever actually happen and...,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 10:44 AM, #112
RE: Exactly. Which is why it won't ever actually happen...,
Rayihn,
01-Jan-12 11:06 AM, #113
You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 11:53 AM, #114
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Daevryn,
01-Jan-12 12:23 PM, #115
That makes sense on all counts. ,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 12:35 PM, #116
Listen to your condescending comments,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 01:07 AM, #123
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
N b M,
01-Jan-12 08:14 PM, #118
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Isildur,
02-Jan-12 12:25 AM, #119
Man you have an ego the size of a battleship Jalim,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 01:06 AM, #122
You are getting your worlds mixed up again. ,
Lhydia,
02-Jan-12 10:11 AM, #127
Except nobody is selling anything...,
Twist,
02-Jan-12 10:16 AM, #128
There you go again Twist, saying it better than me,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 10:48 AM, #129
~~ n/t,
Alston,
02-Jan-12 04:29 AM, #124
RE: Don't like this.,
Isildur,
01-Jan-12 12:07 AM, #108
Twist threw out his back. nt,
Artificial,
01-Jan-12 12:23 AM, #109
RE: Don't like this.,
Malakhi,
01-Jan-12 07:38 PM, #117
RE: Don't like this.,
fist-law,
02-Jan-12 04:33 AM, #125
RE: Don't like this.,
Malakhi,
02-Jan-12 04:55 AM, #126
I like this solution,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 03:04 PM, #88
ZULG: Please remember that we all love this game.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:16 AM, #48
Well said,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #51
I long ago decided mages do NOT need wands.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:13 AM, #47
RE: I long ago decided mages do NOT need wands.,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 02:46 PM, #87
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Ghuljun,
30-Dec-11 10:06 AM, #46
is anyone else annoyed,
laxman,
30-Dec-11 09:05 AM, #40
I've changed my view a bit,
incognito,
30-Dec-11 01:11 AM, #30
One thing that just seems odd to me from your post,
Puhguly,
29-Dec-11 09:55 PM, #20
RE: One thing that just seems odd to me from your post,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 10:34 PM, #23
I like to think I've competed,
incognito,
30-Dec-11 01:12 AM, #31
Not intended as a jab,
Puhguly,
30-Dec-11 05:32 AM, #38
My thoughts...,
Not An Imm,
29-Dec-11 09:25 PM, #19
I'm with this guy. Less lottery?,
Lhydia,
29-Dec-11 10:00 PM, #21
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 08:31 PM, #11
I'm really glad you started this thread.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 07:51 PM, #1
There isn't a problem,
Tsunami,
29-Dec-11 08:04 PM, #5
RE: I'm really glad you started this thread.,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 08:33 PM, #12
I can jive with your explanation.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:43 PM, #15
People see what they want to see:,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 09:23 PM, #18
This is a great great post!,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 12:56 AM, #121
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