Not An Imm | Thu 29-Dec-11 09:25 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#42182, "My thoughts..."
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I both love and hate the wand system.
Love it because I have hit the ABS lottery on a couple of characters, and it made those characters pretty successful I think. They could certainly hold their own and go into most PK situations without worrying too much about dying. These are the characters I played out to 400+ hours and kept me interested in the game.
I hate it, because on another 15 or so "unsuccessful" characters, I could only find 1 (or in some cases none) of my ABS wands, causing me to lose interest and give up on otherwise viable characters after frustration sets in at the 100 hour mark. For these characters, every fight was a struggle since I was always up against foes that had the damage resistance, while I had to burn limited wands or avoid them entirely. Or I can dump tons of points into attunement edges and feel like I crippled my character that way.
That's at least 1000 hours of being cursed with poor ABS locations, or no locations at all, and it really kills my desire to play considering my already limited time.
I didn't mind sinking that trial and error exploration time in when I was failing out of college and grouped with mortal versions Twist or Nep or even Strahd back in the old days, but nowadays I can't commit to the thousands of hours it would take to get me on par with the people who share the lists and have the knowledge about these kinds of secrets.
I'm not sure what the solution is, as it's a pretty big part about why we all love CF in that it's so rich in detail and rewarding of exploration and persistence. But to keep the interest and appeal of an aging and dwindling player base, I think eventually some compromises are going to have to be made to narrow the gap between the knowledgable "Elites" and the casual players who just need to escape from the real world a few hours a week.
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Wand lists, etc.
[View all] , tongni12, Tue 03-Jan-12 03:22 PM
A suggestion,
Krathreal,
04-Jan-12 02:54 AM, #138
Don't worry...,
Jhyrbian,
03-Jan-12 02:56 AM, #136
RE: Don't worry...,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:59 AM, #144
Don't worry...,
Zulghinlour,
29-Dec-11 07:54 PM, #100
Rolling a rager. nt,
Artificial,
29-Dec-11 07:58 PM, #2
Right on lets do dis #### nt,
Runaktla,
31-Dec-11 10:07 PM, #107
Ah, the Napalm strategy.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 07:59 PM, #3
I'm not joking...,
Zulghinlour,
29-Dec-11 08:04 PM, #4
On the contrary, it's a win/win,
Tsunami,
29-Dec-11 08:07 PM, #6
I love you, so please don't take this as argumentative.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:11 PM, #7
RE: I love you, so please don't take this as argumentat...,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 08:36 PM, #13
Again, this involves treating the symptoms, not the dis...,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:53 PM, #16
RE: Again, this involves treating the symptoms, not the...,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 09:01 PM, #17
Sulye would have been nerfed or denied under what I pro...,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:04 AM, #35
RE: Sulye would have been nerfed or denied under what I...,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:47 AM, #42
Forgive me. I was drunk last night. Thank god I didn'...,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:21 PM, #78
I like this idea,
Elerosse,
29-Dec-11 08:24 PM, #10
Depends:,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 08:40 PM, #14
RE: Depends:,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:19 AM, #28
And you say we players are emotional.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:09 AM, #36
Its like the doomsday switch,
Oldril,
31-Dec-11 05:36 PM, #101
Best. Santa Zulg. Ever.,
Scrimbul,
29-Dec-11 11:15 PM, #24
Yep,
AXera,
29-Dec-11 11:53 PM, #26
This is assuming a LOT.,
Tesline,
04-Jan-12 01:42 PM, #139
How is this any better than just making the prep knowle...,
Gaplemo,
29-Dec-11 11:41 PM, #25
RE: How is this any better than just making the prep kn...,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:18 AM, #27
RE: How is this any better than just making the prep kn...,
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 12:49 AM, #29
Of course,
Gaplemo,
30-Dec-11 01:21 AM, #32
Why not just stop all the secrecy then?,
Oldril,
31-Dec-11 05:37 PM, #102
That's naive,
incognito,
01-Jan-12 07:08 AM, #110
Of course.,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 12:54 AM, #120
RE: Of course.,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:03 PM, #133
It's about damn time,
Grudan,
30-Dec-11 05:01 AM, #34
I like this idea IF.... You leave the store bought prep...,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:06 AM, #45
RE: I'm not joking...,
The Heretic,
30-Dec-11 04:08 PM, #91
Longer fights,
Lightmage,
02-Jan-12 11:44 AM, #130
Please see my newbie boosts on Gameplay,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:28 PM, #135
Please remove preps for a week or two.,
Void,
25-Jan-12 09:44 PM, #140
RE: I'm not joking...,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:48 AM, #142
It doesn't sound like a horrible idea.,
Lhydia,
29-Dec-11 08:15 PM, #8
DO IT,
Gaspar,
29-Dec-11 08:17 PM, #9
I like that people race for it,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 03:48 PM, #131
Hahaha!,
Conundrum,
29-Dec-11 10:31 PM, #22
Please come back. We miss you Panda.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:10 AM, #37
Please don't punish us for a few jerks :(,
highbutterfly,
30-Dec-11 03:55 AM, #33
I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 07:19 AM, #39
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 09:16 AM, #41
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Elerosse,
30-Dec-11 09:50 AM, #43
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:51 AM, #44
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 10:31 AM, #52
Actually, I'm not sarcastic. ,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 10:49 AM, #55
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
JoeCloud,
30-Dec-11 01:12 PM, #77
What about strengthening detect artifact?,
JoeCloud,
30-Dec-11 04:03 PM, #90
Add more wand locations and the advantage of having a w...,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #49
Horrible idea,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 01:40 PM, #84
I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Amberion,
30-Dec-11 10:48 AM, #54
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 10:57 AM, #57
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Elerosse,
30-Dec-11 12:04 PM, #70
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Kamuela_,
31-Dec-11 08:41 PM, #104
As someone who likes to play elves and dark elves,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 03:52 PM, #132
Umm,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:17 PM, #134
RE: Umm,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 05:11 AM, #145
I endorse this solution.,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:44 AM, #141
Wow, this whole thing really got out of hand.,
TripHitNdip (Anonymous),
30-Dec-11 07:02 PM, #97
The only time people complain about sleeks ...,
Bell,
30-Dec-11 04:58 PM, #93
More solutions,
Anghwyr,
30-Dec-11 04:25 PM, #92
Another solution,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Dec-11 01:32 PM, #81
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #60
Ok, I'll bite.,
tongni12,
30-Dec-11 11:43 AM, #68
RE: Ok, I'll bite.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:00 PM, #76
No, but I remember them,
tongni12,
30-Dec-11 01:28 PM, #80
RE: No, but I remember them,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:41 PM, #85
Both those were clouds I thought.,
lasentia,
30-Dec-11 06:04 PM, #96
RE: Both those were clouds I thought.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:24 PM, #99
RE: Ok, I'll bite.,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 11:59 AM, #137
It has been a great run.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 12:08 PM, #71
Hah CF on Ebay!,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 12:10 PM, #72
I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 12:20 PM, #73
RE: I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:24 PM, #74
RE: I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:24 PM, #79
I blame Isildur! And a lack of Imm fest!,
lasentia,
30-Dec-11 06:00 PM, #95
RE: I blame Isildur! And a lack of Imm fest!,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:23 PM, #98
#### a college fund, Zulg needs beer money :),
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:33 PM, #82
RE: Hah CF on Ebay!,
Grudan,
30-Dec-11 01:59 PM, #86
Please don't give up on CF,
Valkenar,
30-Dec-11 03:08 PM, #89
I think your premise is wrong...,
Tac,
30-Dec-11 05:03 PM, #94
Not to sound like a jerk but....,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:53 AM, #143
my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #50
Thumbs up from me,
Jad_Hoven,
30-Dec-11 10:47 AM, #53
Sleeks already have a level requirement,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 10:56 AM, #56
RE: Sleeks already have a level requirement,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:20 AM, #64
With the illusionary change,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:22 AM, #65
RE: With the illusionary change,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:26 AM, #67
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #58
So if I want to completely ruin a strong char,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:01 AM, #59
RE: So if I want to completely ruin a strong char,
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:11 AM, #61
I can only think of a few items,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:19 AM, #63
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Knac,
30-Dec-11 11:15 AM, #62
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:25 AM, #66
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:59 AM, #69
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 12:43 PM, #75
I agree with Malakhi.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:39 PM, #83
Don't like this.,
fist-law,
31-Dec-11 06:15 PM, #103
RE: Don't like this.,
Daevryn,
31-Dec-11 09:12 PM, #105
I say quit ####ing around and go for it. Threats and th...,
Lhydia,
31-Dec-11 09:17 PM, #106
That doesn't change the fact,
incognito,
01-Jan-12 07:06 AM, #111
Exactly. Which is why it won't ever actually happen and...,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 10:44 AM, #112
RE: Exactly. Which is why it won't ever actually happen...,
Rayihn,
01-Jan-12 11:06 AM, #113
You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 11:53 AM, #114
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Daevryn,
01-Jan-12 12:23 PM, #115
That makes sense on all counts. ,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 12:35 PM, #116
Listen to your condescending comments,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 01:07 AM, #123
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
N b M,
01-Jan-12 08:14 PM, #118
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Isildur,
02-Jan-12 12:25 AM, #119
Man you have an ego the size of a battleship Jalim,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 01:06 AM, #122
You are getting your worlds mixed up again. ,
Lhydia,
02-Jan-12 10:11 AM, #127
Except nobody is selling anything...,
Twist,
02-Jan-12 10:16 AM, #128
There you go again Twist, saying it better than me,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 10:48 AM, #129
~~ n/t,
Alston,
02-Jan-12 04:29 AM, #124
RE: Don't like this.,
Isildur,
01-Jan-12 12:07 AM, #108
Twist threw out his back. nt,
Artificial,
01-Jan-12 12:23 AM, #109
RE: Don't like this.,
Malakhi,
01-Jan-12 07:38 PM, #117
RE: Don't like this.,
fist-law,
02-Jan-12 04:33 AM, #125
RE: Don't like this.,
Malakhi,
02-Jan-12 04:55 AM, #126
I like this solution,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 03:04 PM, #88
ZULG: Please remember that we all love this game.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:16 AM, #48
Well said,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #51
I long ago decided mages do NOT need wands.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:13 AM, #47
RE: I long ago decided mages do NOT need wands.,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 02:46 PM, #87
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Ghuljun,
30-Dec-11 10:06 AM, #46
is anyone else annoyed,
laxman,
30-Dec-11 09:05 AM, #40
I've changed my view a bit,
incognito,
30-Dec-11 01:11 AM, #30
One thing that just seems odd to me from your post,
Puhguly,
29-Dec-11 09:55 PM, #20
RE: One thing that just seems odd to me from your post,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 10:34 PM, #23
I like to think I've competed,
incognito,
30-Dec-11 01:12 AM, #31
Not intended as a jab,
Puhguly,
30-Dec-11 05:32 AM, #38
My thoughts...,
Not An Imm,
29-Dec-11 09:25 PM #19
I'm with this guy. Less lottery?,
Lhydia,
29-Dec-11 10:00 PM, #21
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 08:31 PM, #11
I'm really glad you started this thread.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 07:51 PM, #1
There isn't a problem,
Tsunami,
29-Dec-11 08:04 PM, #5
RE: I'm really glad you started this thread.,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 08:33 PM, #12
I can jive with your explanation.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:43 PM, #15
People see what they want to see:,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 09:23 PM, #18
This is a great great post!,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 12:56 AM, #121
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