I think the party analogy works perfectly, and you just can't seem to get it. If I throw a party, I'm providing the location & some basic ground rules (stay out of my sisters bedroom, don't touch my parents liquor cabinet, etc). I invite a bunch of guests over. The combination of my location, my groundrules, and the guests make a party.

Me offering my house = The Immortals, the Game and the Rules
Guests = The Players

You need both to have a successful party (and in our case a successful game). Nobody is arguing that but you, because we all know that it takes both of us for this to be successful.

If my guests start breaking my rules (like breaking into my parents liquor cabinet) you sure as #### I'm kicking them out of the party, even if they are my best friend on the whole world, because it's going to be my ass that gets busted by my parents.

If players start breaking rules (and consistently, repeatedly break rules), they are getting the boot. Period.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!