>Just imagine a fight. You with your average gear and without
>preps
>and me with my uber gear (damroll 70-80) and without preps as
>well.
>Would I have any chance to win? Doubtful.

Neither would I have much chance to win unless you were to lose link. With iron swords and your damroll you'd hit me for MANGLEs through sanc and protection. That allows for flurries for 1/3 - 1/2 of my health (approx. 860hp). I hardly ever hit you in melee, meaning the lion's share of my damage had to come from wrath. i.e. I have to not be lagged. Champ's stand is great for that, but it's not so difficult to engineer a situation where I can't use it.

I'm not saying you'd have an easy time killing me, or even necessarily be able to pull it off, but the same can be said for me w/ regard to you. To me, that means paladins aren't that scary. The main thing I'd be afraid of, were I playing an evil warrior, is a paladin who isn't afraid to gang. Gang + summon is ugly. Nhiala typically didn't do that, so you had little to fear from me.

>When a storm two-handed paladin says that without virtues
>he is weak because Joe Blow bashed him to death I can only
>laugh.
>Giants are not the best target for bashes. Quaff enlarge?

I know who you're talking about, and he/she sort of has a point. Say I'm a fire axe spec w/ haste preps. I come across Mr. Storm 2H Paladin. I enlarge and get ready to bash. The paladin, for his part, reduces himself. All that I means is that, once I notice the paladin's reduce, I have to reduce myself back to normal size before continuing the bash-down.

>When overpowered barriered invokers tool me they at least
>have to prepare and find that barrier wand.

So you know, I did prep on several occasions when we fought. Though, only with stoneskin and/or haste.