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DaevrynWed 26-Dec-12 07:43 PM
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#112628, "RE: That's because you are inadvertently the problem."


          


>However, you are supposedly "Game-Balance guy", and its
>obvious you are blinded by your love of your wife (happens to
>us all), and can't see how the rewards she gives out
>unbalances the game.

Except... she actually doesn't, by and large.

In Fort in recent memory there's Jack Blaguar. That's admittedly a pretty good reward, although there have always been concurrent quest forms in other cabals.

And... that's it. Or it came from someone other than Baer.

I keep hearing that people in Fort have rewards that they actually don't. I don't know what to make of it other than that there's a segment of the playerbase that amount to the equivalent of catty, gossipy soccer moms. They can't hack it as players so apparently they make #### up.

And what can you even do about that? People believe what they want.

>You are also biased because your mortals tend to also get
>hooked up. If you went back to just playing stock mortals, I
>think the playerbase here would probably agree you are one of,
>if not the best, pk'er on the MUD. Unfortunately no one is
>ever going to see that because every character you play has an
>asterisk next to it, at least in my book.

Rather than give in to my natural reaction, I'll attempt to give this a serious response.

First: how do you even go about that?

Second: I have played "stock" characters, and even the last couple characters I've had that have had some kind of reward had managed what amounts to a lot (e.g. a hundred or more) of kills before ever seeing any kind of mechanical reward.

Interesting thing? It doesn't make a difference. At all. A character who beats people will get OOC or forum rants about how over-rewarded they are, even if they actually have nothing, and even if they beat someone who themselves does have some kind of solid reward. This occurs whether it's a power combo character or something that nobody else would have played on a dare.

Other than just not play, it's not possible for me to make people happy in this respect. At one point this bothered me, but I'm over it now.

>What I see right now is this MUD hemorrhaging players as well
>as long-time staff, because of everyone's perception of
>shadiness that pretty much centers around either you, or your
>wife. If you can't see that the current situation has been and
>is detrimental to the MUD, I am not sure what to tell you.

To the extent that that's true (and I'm not convinced that it is), I think it's perception. Why would it make sense to encourage the gossipy soccer mom faction by giving them what they want as a reward for (mostly) making #### up?

>Step back from being an imm, be just a player, and get back to
>enjoying the game. God knows you've earned it with the work we
>all know you put in.

I'm not inclined to let "Tolnum" (whoever you are) make those decisions for me.

  

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Reply Thread Locked, Amaranthe, 29-Dec-12 11:56 PM, #95
Reply Dang, Valkenar, 27-Dec-12 05:03 PM, #60
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., Lyristeon, 27-Dec-12 04:04 PM, #58
Reply Good post. Appreciate it., TMNS, 27-Dec-12 04:32 PM, #59
Reply FWIW, Lyristeon, 27-Dec-12 05:48 PM, #62
     Reply Are you coming back?, -flso, 27-Dec-12 06:15 PM, #63
     Reply Outlander certainly doesn't need love, Blkdrgn, 28-Dec-12 01:25 AM, #76
          Reply Don't be like that., Splntrd, 29-Dec-12 05:07 PM, #90
          Reply Tell me about it, robdarken_, 29-Dec-12 09:18 PM, #92
          Reply We all need love, BlkDrgn. nt, Dallevian, 29-Dec-12 09:54 PM, #93
     Reply RE: FWIW, Bajula, 27-Dec-12 06:23 PM, #64
     Reply oh, if it isnt my dead beat dad who left me high and dr..., Balta, 27-Dec-12 06:55 PM, #65
Reply You suck..come back..nough said. nt, Minyar, 27-Dec-12 05:41 PM, #61
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., Nreykre, 26-Dec-12 02:15 PM, #28
Reply Take care, Iunna..., Amaranthe, 26-Dec-12 11:52 AM, #27
Reply Irreconcilable differences., Iunna, 26-Dec-12 10:24 AM, #26
Reply RE: Irreconcilable differences., Daevryn, 26-Dec-12 02:22 PM, #29
Reply Love is blind?, Minyar, 26-Dec-12 02:32 PM, #30
Reply RE: Love is blind?, Daevryn, 26-Dec-12 07:31 PM, #41
     Reply Que?, Iunna, 26-Dec-12 08:43 PM, #46
          Reply RE: Que?, Daevryn, 26-Dec-12 08:47 PM, #47
               Reply Don't mistake not arguing for getting along. , Vladamir, 27-Dec-12 07:54 PM, #66
                    Reply RE: Don't mistake not arguing for getting along. , Daevryn, 27-Dec-12 09:39 PM, #71
                    Reply RE: Don't mistake not arguing for getting along. , Vladamir, 28-Dec-12 02:14 AM, #79
                    Reply Good post. Incidentally, it kinda summarizes why I deci..., Murphy, 28-Dec-12 03:13 AM, #80
                    Reply I'm sorry, but I don't like this response., Minyar, 28-Dec-12 03:01 PM, #83
                         Reply RE: I'm sorry, but I don't like this response., Daevryn, 28-Dec-12 06:49 PM, #86
                         Reply I'm an example, Valkenar, 29-Dec-12 11:03 PM, #94
                         Reply Disagree on the pbf comment thing, robdarken_, 29-Dec-12 09:17 PM, #91
                    Reply Great post/analogy nt, Tolnum, 28-Dec-12 12:30 AM, #74
Reply RE: Irreconcilable differences., Knac, 26-Dec-12 03:18 PM, #31
Reply I would agree with this., Zephon, 26-Dec-12 04:02 PM, #32
Reply RE: Irreconcilable differences., Isildur, 26-Dec-12 10:09 PM, #51
     Reply However, nobody likes a negative Nancy (Raybaer) who ON..., Vladamir, 27-Dec-12 08:01 PM, #67
          Reply Not true man. I'm a fan of yours (glad to hear you're...., TMNS, 27-Dec-12 08:33 PM, #70
Reply Of course you don't see it dude, that's your wife., TMNS, 26-Dec-12 03:54 PM, #33
Reply RE: Of course you don't see it dude, that's your wife., Isildur, 26-Dec-12 10:15 PM, #52
     Reply This, Demos, 28-Dec-12 01:22 AM, #75
Reply That's because you are inadvertently the problem., Tolnum, 26-Dec-12 06:11 PM, #34
Reply That is pretty ####ty advice, Cenatar_, 26-Dec-12 07:08 PM, #37
Reply 4-5 players?, Tolnum, 26-Dec-12 07:14 PM, #38
     Reply RE: 4-5 players?, Cenatar_, 26-Dec-12 07:46 PM, #43
          Reply Cyradia, Iunna, Tolnum, 26-Dec-12 08:14 PM, #45
               Reply There are more than two Imms that people whine about. n..., DurNominator, 27-Dec-12 03:37 AM, #53
                    Reply Not to any great degree, and not usually beyond a singl..., Vladamir, 27-Dec-12 08:23 PM, #68
                         Reply But it is the same people who repeatedly whine and if y..., Cenatar_, 28-Dec-12 11:11 AM, #82
                              Reply Championing the other imms..., Vladamir, 28-Dec-12 09:57 PM, #88
                                   Reply RE: Championing the other imms..., Daevryn, 29-Dec-12 12:14 AM, #89
Reply RE: That's because you are inadvertently the problem., Daevryn, 26-Dec-12 07:43 PM #42
     Reply Hey whatever works for you, Tolnum, 26-Dec-12 08:13 PM, #44
     Reply RE: Hey whatever works for you, Daevryn, 26-Dec-12 08:49 PM, #48
          Reply luckily a very, very small camp. nt, Dallevian, 26-Dec-12 08:56 PM, #49
          Reply lol you say a very small camp but the funny thing is, t..., Blkdrgn, 27-Dec-12 03:53 PM, #57
          Reply Maybe we have different opinions on size, Tolnum, 28-Dec-12 12:26 AM, #73
               Reply > 10% of the posts in this thread are yours. n/t, Malakhi, 28-Dec-12 01:28 AM, #77
                    Reply 7 posts, Tolnum, 28-Dec-12 02:04 AM, #78
          Reply Reasonably make me happy? Respond here., Tolnum, 28-Dec-12 12:22 AM, #72
               Reply RE: Reasonably make me happy? Respond here., Daevryn, 28-Dec-12 10:44 AM, #81
                    Reply Taking that a step further..., Moridin, 28-Dec-12 03:26 PM, #84
                         Reply Lesson learned. - Derail inprogress, Drogdenbaryd (Anonymous), 28-Dec-12 04:38 PM, #85
                         Reply Where the heck have you been?, Gaspar, 28-Dec-12 08:00 PM, #87
     Reply You?, xrus, 27-Dec-12 05:01 AM, #55
Reply balance of power has shifted. not for the better., Dallevian, 26-Dec-12 07:15 PM, #39
Reply Take a breather, come back, Tolnum, 26-Dec-12 06:12 PM, #35
Reply And why the hell did you write it then?, Shapa, 26-Dec-12 06:33 PM, #36
Reply Why not?, Gurn Blanston, 26-Dec-12 07:23 PM, #40
     Reply At least because of the prehistory of the deletion?, Shapa, 27-Dec-12 03:40 AM, #54
Reply RE: Irreconcilable differences., Borkahd, 26-Dec-12 09:38 PM, #50
Reply I don't really understand, CD, 27-Dec-12 09:00 AM, #56
Reply Left forever or to play?, xrus, 26-Dec-12 03:27 AM, #25
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., Treebeard, 25-Dec-12 02:05 PM, #24
Reply Lol, The-me, 25-Dec-12 08:35 AM, #23
Reply This makes me so sad..., Amberion, 25-Dec-12 01:27 AM, #22
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., Splntrd, 25-Dec-12 01:03 AM, #21
Reply super bigtime sadface, Whiysdan, 25-Dec-12 12:46 AM, #20
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., Vynmylak, 25-Dec-12 12:05 AM, #19
Reply What this mud needs, is some more Vynny Mac. nt, Vladamir, 27-Dec-12 08:28 PM, #69
Reply Yep., Bayres123, 24-Dec-12 10:53 PM, #17
Reply A real bummer., Homard, 24-Dec-12 10:47 PM, #16
Reply Really Really sorry to see this., hadashdakon, 24-Dec-12 09:56 PM, #14
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., Graatch, 24-Dec-12 09:31 PM, #13
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., Isildur, 24-Dec-12 10:28 PM, #15
Reply Lady Ashfoot, Zephon, 24-Dec-12 06:02 PM, #12
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., Rade, 24-Dec-12 05:19 PM, #11
Reply Sup, babe., Quesnel (Anonymous), 24-Dec-12 04:01 PM, #9
Reply Please don't go? This game won't be the same without y..., Bukbuk, 24-Dec-12 02:54 PM, #7
Reply This is a huge loss for CF, Vhloughvang (Anonymous), 24-Dec-12 12:51 PM, #6
Reply Awwww, Hopelessdwarf, 24-Dec-12 12:47 PM, #5
Reply :(, Daevryn, 24-Dec-12 12:33 PM, #4
Reply She already told me she's in for Decempire., TMNS, 24-Dec-12 03:02 PM, #8
     Reply RE: She already told me she's in for Decempire., Isildur, 24-Dec-12 04:42 PM, #10
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Iunna Ashfoot the Blazing Hellca..., HammerSong, 24-Dec-12 12:17 PM, #3
Reply Love the Post - The Song makes me LOL at Thror - , Warren, 24-Dec-12 11:17 PM, #18
Reply You will be missed., Kalageadon, 24-Dec-12 11:53 AM, #2
Reply Noooooooooo!!! , Demos, 24-Dec-12 11:42 AM, #1
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