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XanthraillesSun 31-Jan-10 11:09 AM
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#30529, "Hummingbirsd pendant"


          

Why is it that goodies can request this item? Hell evil players have to kill tiamat to get something of equal value. Why not make them kill some great force of evil and free it from a chest ala defiance? This items seems way to easy to get for goodies.

  

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Reply RE: Hummingbirsd pendant, Isildur, 31-Jan-10 06:39 PM, #6
Reply There has to be some benefit for playing good nt, Rayihn, 31-Jan-10 11:19 AM, #1
     Reply RE: There has to be some benefit for playing good nt, Asyguest (Guest), 31-Jan-10 11:56 AM, #2
          Reply Requested items should crumble if given, dropped or put..., ibuki, 31-Jan-10 12:44 PM, #3
          Reply That's not a bad solution, Daurwyn2 (Guest), 31-Jan-10 01:44 PM, #4
          Reply RE: That's not a bad solution, Isildur, 31-Jan-10 06:43 PM, #7
               Reply I've been asked occasionally, Daurwyn2 (Guest), 01-Feb-10 03:47 AM, #8
                    Reply RE: I've been asked occasionally, Isildur, 01-Feb-10 11:55 AM, #9
                         Reply I did too, but never within or day or so RL time from....., TMNS_lazy (Guest), 01-Feb-10 03:32 PM, #10
                              Reply RE: I did too, but never within or day or so RL time fr..., Isildur, 01-Feb-10 05:29 PM, #11
                                   Reply Agreed., blackbird, 01-Feb-10 06:10 PM, #12
                                        Reply It didn't use to, Daurwyn2 (Guest), 01-Feb-10 06:30 PM, #13
                                             Reply Oh. Nice! I hope you're right., blackbird, 01-Feb-10 09:05 PM, #14
          Reply RE: There has to be some benefit for playing good nt, Linds, 31-Jan-10 05:46 PM, #5

IsildurSun 31-Jan-10 06:39 PM
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#30550, "RE: Hummingbirsd pendant"
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Standard answer is: you can only request it if it's there, and usually its on some other goodie. Who you can't kill because you're also a goodie.

  

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RayihnSun 31-Jan-10 11:19 AM
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#30530, "There has to be some benefit for playing good nt"
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Asyguest (Guest)Sun 31-Jan-10 11:56 AM

  
#30531, "RE: There has to be some benefit for playing good nt"
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It seems like a lot of goodies get away with abusing request though.

It's (very) not uncommon to see goodie heroes requesting stuff simply because it's in, not because they died and need to regear.

It would be nice to see more goodies use request sparingly instead of every time they notice a requestable "upgrade" to their suit or simply because they can.

From an IC standpoint, it's kind of lame to see goodies request the nice sword from a mob then, noticing better sword is in an hour later, request it and toss just plain nice sword in the pit instead of back on it's owner.

This feels like a Pro/Java rant. Ah well.

  

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ibukiSun 31-Jan-10 12:44 PM
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#30532, "Requested items should crumble if given, dropped or put..."
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Daurwyn2 (Guest)Sun 31-Jan-10 01:44 PM

  
#30534, "That's not a bad solution"
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I know when I've played goodies almost no one adheres to the "Don't request stuff for other players" rule.

  

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IsildurSun 31-Jan-10 06:43 PM
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#30551, "RE: That's not a bad solution"
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I'm not saying it doesn't get abused, but I've never personally seen much of that. I don't ask people to request stuff, and they don't ask me to request stuff for them.

  

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Daurwyn2 (Guest)Mon 01-Feb-10 03:47 AM

  
#30554, "I've been asked occasionally"
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But more often I just get given stuff that must have been requested.

  

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IsildurMon 01-Feb-10 11:55 AM
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#30561, "RE: I've been asked occasionally"
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I would occasionally give people stuff that I had requested, but it was always because I'd found something better to wear.

  

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TMNS_lazy (Guest)Mon 01-Feb-10 03:32 PM

  
#30567, "I did too, but never within or day or so RL time from....."
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...when I requested it.

I don't know, I feel like I abused request with my first goodie, my arial invoker. I had never played a goodie, never identified half the gear, so a lot of times I would request something, ID it, then hand it back to the mob.

  

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IsildurMon 01-Feb-10 05:29 PM
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#30570, "RE: I did too, but never within or day or so RL time fr..."
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I do that a lot. Request, identify, give back to the mob. FWIW I don't think that's abuse. I view it as no different than asking a good-aligned PC to see a piece of gear so I can identify it, then giving it back to them.

  

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blackbirdMon 01-Feb-10 06:10 PM
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#30572, "Agreed."
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I did that often with my first hero, but I'm pretty sure that dropping it and sacrificing it, while ####ty rp, is far better for mechanics consideration, since the way I understand it if you GIVE the item back to the mob, they're not going to re-wear it, and it's going to still be "out" and counting toward the item's limit, so that someone else coming to get that item has to either request 1. or kill the mob. Which... sort of sucks both ways.

Could an imm enlighten us/me on how that works? Giving requested items back to the mob doesn't really *do* anything, right?

  

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Daurwyn2 (Guest)Mon 01-Feb-10 06:30 PM

  
#30573, "It didn't use to"
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But I believe it does now.

  

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blackbirdMon 01-Feb-10 09:05 PM
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#30579, "Oh. Nice! I hope you're right."
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LindsSun 31-Jan-10 05:46 PM
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#30548, "RE: There has to be some benefit for playing good nt"
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Excuse my ignorance, but you can give an item back to the mob from which you requested it, and they will exclaim 'Ah!' and reequip said item or some such?

  

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