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#69996, "Berserk and learning"
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I asked this on newbie and nobody answered, maybe some imm can help, please?
Does berserking, so reducing your skill at it, help learn weapons, or make it worse? If I am at 85 with axe and berserk so I'm effectively 75, and I'm using a practice weapon, will I learn it more easily or less easily or no affect?
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For weapons skills it does nothing...,
Twist,
03-Mar-18 01:21 AM, #6
request for clarity,
laxman,
03-Mar-18 01:53 AM, #7
Not 100% certain, but...,
Twist,
03-Mar-18 07:38 PM, #8
How about being drunk?,
Kstatida,
04-Mar-18 03:46 AM, #9
It helps. Sometimes. Ish.,
Quixotic,
02-Mar-18 05:57 PM, #1
4% sounds like fake news,
Kstatida,
02-Mar-18 05:59 PM, #2
Fake news is Trumputin propaganda. ;-),
Quixotic,
02-Mar-18 06:50 PM, #3
RE: It helps. Sometimes. Ish.,
Weapons Trainer (Anonymous),
02-Mar-18 08:43 PM, #4
Imo,,
Matrik-,
02-Mar-18 10:18 PM, #5
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laxman | Sat 03-Mar-18 01:53 AM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
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#70008, "request for clarity"
In response to Reply #6
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You learn one of 2 ways as I understand. You can learn when you succeed(1%) or when you fail(1-3%).
So if berserk drops your base percent from say 75% to 65% your chance for a fail/learn(1-3%) goes up but your successful learn(1%) goes down.
Does this just not apply to basic weapon skills or all skills?
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Kstatida | Sun 04-Mar-18 03:46 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
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#70018, "How about being drunk?"
In response to Reply #6
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It drops your skills as well, does it drop your learning rates?
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Quixotic | Fri 02-Mar-18 05:57 PM |
Member since 09th Feb 2006
837 posts
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#69998, "It helps. Sometimes. Ish."
In response to Reply #0
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For skills that require you to be successful to learn, such as riposte and concealed, having that lower percentage hurts you.
For active skills and other skills that can improve on failure, it depends on whether the learning rate is calculated on skill attempts or if successful and failed attempts have different rates.
My anecdotal experience tells me that most skills fall into the "skill attempts" approach where success and failure are treated the same. In that world, the chance to learn 2%, 3%, or even 4% represents a huge savings in time spent training.
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Kstatida | Fri 02-Mar-18 05:59 PM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
2214 posts
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#69999, "4% sounds like fake news"
In response to Reply #1
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Quixotic | Fri 02-Mar-18 06:50 PM |
Member since 09th Feb 2006
837 posts
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#70000, "Fake news is Trumputin propaganda. ;-)"
In response to Reply #2
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High wisdom or Apt Learner.
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#70004, "RE: It helps. Sometimes. Ish."
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Ok, so where do you think learning weapons falls?
And any imm care to clarify/confirm, please?
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Matrik- | Fri 02-Mar-18 10:18 PM |
Member since 21st Feb 2018
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#70005, "Imo,"
In response to Reply #4
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berserk is not a good thing for weapons training.
I don't think you ever learn "from your mistakes" on weapons do you?
I do know for certain you CANNOT learn from a "miss." I know this from doing a super high AC + low hit roll build that could perma tank kobolds and never hit them. No skill gains on weapons.
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