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SertiusSun 22-Jan-17 05:22 PM
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#66655, "Parry question"


          

With 100% in all relevant skills, would I parry the same or not with wielding a dagger in primary and a sword in offhand or with a sword in primary and a dagger in the offhand? Thanks in advance.

  

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Reply As I understand it, Onewingedangel, 22-Jan-17 07:48 PM, #3
Reply Sort of., Umiron, 22-Jan-17 09:22 PM, #4
     Reply This leads to, Murphy, 22-Jan-17 09:45 PM, #5
     Reply Well, that brings up a problem I have., TMNS, 22-Jan-17 10:14 PM, #6
          Reply Why is it a problem?, Murphy, 22-Jan-17 10:26 PM, #7
          Reply Because space builds should be viable, Kstatida, 23-Jan-17 07:34 AM, #8
          Reply RE: Well, that brings up a problem I have., SideStrider, 23-Jan-17 09:06 AM, #9
               Reply I had it on dex human and it was about 30%., TMNS, 23-Jan-17 10:15 PM, #10
Reply The same. (nt), Umiron, 22-Jan-17 06:43 PM, #2
Reply RE: Parry question, Jormyr, 22-Jan-17 06:19 PM, #1

OnewingedangelSun 22-Jan-17 07:48 PM
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#66659, "As I understand it"
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It'll check for parry in your mainhand, then check for parry in your offhand, no bonuses or detriments to wielding in one hand or the other. So equal chance if you switch them around.

  

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UmironSun 22-Jan-17 09:22 PM
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#66660, "Sort of."
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If parry picks a hand (50/50) that is empty, there is a chance it'll switch to the other if you have a weapon in that hand. It's also possible you just won't parry, unless you have ironhands or something like that.

So in that sense there's some strategy in choice of weapon and disarm skills, in that you may want your better parrying weapon (if they're different) in the hand that is less likely to get disarmed.

  

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MurphySun 22-Jan-17 09:45 PM
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#66661, "This leads to"
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a pair of weapons parrying better than one, even if you don't have flourintine.

Now I wonder if it still does the 50/50 if you're say, holding a shield. Or a two-handed weapon.

  

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TMNSSun 22-Jan-17 10:14 PM
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#66662, "Well, that brings up a problem I have."
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Why does ambidextrous disarmer (or whatever) allow for 1 rd offhand disarms?

There is no edge/skill that allows a NORMAL disarm to do that, save for the Fluid Deception Legacy (and that happens roughly 30% of the time).

It just doesn't make a ton of logical sense from a game balance perspective.

  

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MurphySun 22-Jan-17 10:26 PM
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#66663, "Why is it a problem?"
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If someone's gonna take that edge over seven winds of hamsah, let them.

  

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KstatidaMon 23-Jan-17 07:34 AM
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#66664, "Because space builds should be viable"
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And it makes the skill usable.

  

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SideStriderMon 23-Jan-17 09:06 AM
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#66665, "RE: Well, that brings up a problem I have."
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Not trying to cause grief just bit of input is all. Every time I've used fluid deceptions, granted its been with arials or dex half-drow, the disarm happens quite a bit more than 30%. Very well could just be my imagination or RNG.

  

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TMNSMon 23-Jan-17 10:15 PM
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#66683, "I had it on dex human and it was about 30%."
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Now granted, I was being deathblowed often so I didn't do a thoroughly investigation

I wonder how many people know it can lag a round about 30% of the time too It's the reason I thought Alizabaz (Twist you n00b) took it.

  

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UmironSun 22-Jan-17 06:43 PM
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#66658, "The same. (nt)"
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asd

  

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JormyrSun 22-Jan-17 06:19 PM
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#66657, "RE: Parry question"
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I believe there's a post somewhere where it's stated it's the same.

I could be wrong. I also dislike that fact, and believe that the
idea of a "primary" hand is primary for a reason, and you should
default to try parrying with your primary hand more than offhand, and
would vote to change that.

If I can find the post, I'll edit and put it here.

  

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