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rsmith | Wed 07-Dec-16 03:34 PM |
Member since 31st Oct 2015
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#65700, "Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?"
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Wrath was toned down to every two rounds.
With earthrend a once a round spell that does insane damage to everyone present and it also lags, I think it is a bit too powerful in the current environment. I am not a summoner so I can't just summon a bunch of mobs and sit by them waiting for a shaman to try and ruin my day. What are peoples thoughts on this commune from a gameplay and balance perspective? Thanks in advance.
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Earthrend,
Umiron,
10-Dec-16 11:35 AM, #15
RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?,
Destuvius,
09-Dec-16 04:07 AM, #11
RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?,
Tronimal,
08-Dec-16 02:55 PM, #9
RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?,
incognito,
08-Dec-16 02:59 AM, #5
RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?,
amazingdonnie,
07-Dec-16 04:58 PM, #2
RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?,
Ignolmeer,
07-Dec-16 04:23 PM, #1
Shaman kind of suck vs groups, earth tend gives them a ...,
laxman,
07-Dec-16 07:34 PM, #3
RE: Shaman kind of suck vs groups, earth tend gives the...,
incognito,
08-Dec-16 03:02 AM, #6
RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?,
Wasted,
07-Dec-16 07:59 PM, #4
So dispel, then earthrend.,
lasentia,
08-Dec-16 07:10 AM, #7
RE: So dispel, then earthrend.,
incognito,
08-Dec-16 08:30 AM, #8
RE: So dispel, then earthrend.,
Jhyrbian,
08-Dec-16 10:44 PM, #10
Except that he doesn't play NT,
Kstatida,
09-Dec-16 04:47 AM, #12
RE: Except that he doesn't play NT,
Jhyrbian,
09-Dec-16 07:19 PM, #13
The point is making fun of people,
Kstatida,
10-Dec-16 10:14 AM, #14
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Umiron | Sat 10-Dec-16 11:29 AM |
Member since 29th May 2017
1499 posts
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#65738, "Earthrend"
In response to Reply #0
Edited on Sat 10-Dec-16 11:35 AM
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Earthrend is pretty powerful, not only because it deals decent damage but because it can do a variety of interesting things.
But its effectiveness can be mitigated. The damage is largely based on the victim's size, so reducing can help a lot in curbing the damage. Likewise, both the damage and the special affects have a save check so you can bring down the pain quite a bit by gearing for saves which you should be doing anyway if you are fighting shaman.
So my two cents is no, it's not overpowered. Both for the reasons Destuvius pointed out and because not only can it be defended against, but it can be defended against cheaply and without sacrificing much.
EDIT: Spell check.
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incognito | Thu 08-Dec-16 02:59 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#65708, "RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?"
In response to Reply #0
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I think it is fine as is.
Unless you have a shaman thief or shaman bash perma, but the solution to that isn't to get rid of earthrend. (Not saying there's a perma but in the absence of that the solution to big damage is to run away, or in this case, fly.
Also I think dex and saves -might- both help?
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amazingdonnie | Wed 07-Dec-16 04:58 PM |
Member since 19th Nov 2013
148 posts
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#65702, "RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?"
In response to Reply #0
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Many factors can mitigate the usefulness of earthrend and as powerful as it is, it's also extremely limiting in certain situations. I think it is fine as it is.
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Ignolmeer | Wed 07-Dec-16 04:23 PM |
Member since 16th Nov 2016
77 posts
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#65701, "RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?"
In response to Reply #0
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laxman | Wed 07-Dec-16 07:34 PM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
1867 posts
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#65706, "Shaman kind of suck vs groups, earth tend gives them a ..."
In response to Reply #1
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The damage is comparable to denonfire so in a one on one it's not much of a difference. You generally can't afford to maldicts much when facing groups but earthrend gives you a shot. It's pretty decent for ambushing ranking groups but in more coordinated battles numbers still generally overwhelm.
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incognito | Thu 08-Dec-16 03:02 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#65709, "RE: Shaman kind of suck vs groups, earth tend gives the..."
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I think shaman is decent vs groups.
You have good lag protection, summon, ability to heal, good defenses and dam redux.
You won't avoid having to flee but shaman excels at drawing out a fight and gradually adding to the maladictions.
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Wasted | Wed 07-Dec-16 07:59 PM |
Member since 21st Jun 2015
111 posts
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#65707, "RE: Is earthrend too powerful for today's CF?"
In response to Reply #1
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Fly HUGELY mitigates the damage of it to the point that it would quickly become the least dangerous option in a shaman's arsenal-- we're talking lowercase damage.
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lasentia | Thu 08-Dec-16 07:10 AM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
987 posts
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#65710, "So dispel, then earthrend."
In response to Reply #4
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People just need to pay attention to getting dispelled.
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incognito | Thu 08-Dec-16 08:30 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#65711, "RE: So dispel, then earthrend."
In response to Reply #7
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I've had people try to do that. Flight isn't a prep you are likely to run short of.
In fact, I'd be quite happy if a shaman kept doing that as it means I can run down the timer on his other supps at the cost of just flight preps. If they fall the shaman can get in a lot of trouble fast.
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Jhyrbian | Thu 08-Dec-16 10:44 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
919 posts
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#65713, "RE: So dispel, then earthrend."
In response to Reply #8
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you're probably one of the few people willing to drag out a fight for 2 real life hours to do this though.
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Kstatida | Fri 09-Dec-16 04:47 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
2214 posts
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#65715, "Except that he doesn't play NT"
In response to Reply #10
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Jhyrbian | Fri 09-Dec-16 07:19 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
919 posts
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#65730, "RE: Except that he doesn't play NT"
In response to Reply #12
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But he did... and to do what he was suggesting he would have to, so what's your point?
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Kstatida | Sat 10-Dec-16 10:14 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
2214 posts
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#65736, "The point is making fun of people"
In response to Reply #13
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Even if he's willing to spend 2 hours on that, he doesn't play, so he won't do it anyway.
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