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#65219, "Empire restructuring suggesting. It won't be popular."
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Empire was designed with a mud that had 80 players logged in at time. Sect leaders got very, very nice powers because it was incredibly hard to claw and keep yourself at the top of the dogpile and there was lots of opposition available to pull you down.
With the smaller player base, to a large extent half of the playerbase at any point in time is likely a vet playing a cabal leader. If you look at Empire, their cabal encourages people to diversify and activity: if you are not active, you get automatically demoted. In addition to that, there are sycophants who might as well be in a newly formed Arcane sect.
Reduce the number of sect leader positions.
Encourage them to betray each other. There used to be a lot more backstabbing than there is now.
Get rid of citizen status, and have the Empire actually distrust arcanes rather than gleefully recruit them for their escapades.
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RE: Empire restructuring suggesting. It won't be popula...,
tanoomi71,
11-Nov-16 03:44 PM, #22
Does everyone have a complex on here?,
Drehir,
03-Nov-16 07:40 PM, #2
Not everyone.,
Murphy,
03-Nov-16 08:12 PM, #3
RE: Not everyone.,
Drehir,
04-Nov-16 02:45 PM, #18
RE: Does everyone have a complex on here?,
Bemused,
03-Nov-16 10:57 PM, #8
You are too negative too often.,
Aereglen,
04-Nov-16 05:23 AM, #12
I know at least one player...,
TMNS,
04-Nov-16 06:03 AM, #13
I was responding to negativity but you are too blind to...,
Bemused,
04-Nov-16 06:51 AM, #15
No you weren't, but maybe you're too blind to see that.,
Aereglen,
04-Nov-16 11:53 AM, #16
And you continue to ####post without contributing a thi...,
Kstatida,
04-Nov-16 01:11 PM, #17
You saying this is hypocritical.,
Aereglen,
04-Nov-16 06:22 PM, #19
RE: You saying this is hypocritical.,
Kstatida,
04-Nov-16 07:40 PM, #20
Double negative.,
Aereglen,
04-Nov-16 11:27 PM, #21
No,
Kstatida,
03-Nov-16 07:55 AM, #1
I still say just merge Empire and Trib.,
Athioles,
03-Nov-16 09:46 PM, #4
Why not merge Fortress and Empire?,
Murphy,
03-Nov-16 10:08 PM, #5
I would ...,
DeathIncarnate,
03-Nov-16 10:44 PM, #6
Sounds like a plan (n/t),
Murphy,
03-Nov-16 10:51 PM, #
WTF... How did it post twice?,
Murphy,
03-Nov-16 10:52 PM, #7
RE: I would ...,
Kstatida,
04-Nov-16 06:20 AM, #14
Someone's been partaking in the potato wine I see.,
Athioles,
04-Nov-16 01:04 AM, #11
Says the man who played a Sunwarden married to an Elder...,
TMNS,
04-Nov-16 12:08 AM, #9
Yep.,
Athioles,
04-Nov-16 01:04 AM, #10
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tanoomi71 | Fri 11-Nov-16 03:44 PM |
Member since 23rd Apr 2015
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#65268, "RE: Empire restructuring suggesting. It won't be popula..."
In response to Reply #0
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Being that my current player is my first Empire player and has gone up and down the ranks. Giving the Council more sway would be nice. Perhaps its just me, but giving a way for the lower ranks to really buck the system when they see their leaders fat and dumb.
The Arcanes I don't see being within the walls, they seem to chaotic even when they attempt to be orderly.
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Drehir | Thu 03-Nov-16 07:40 PM |
Member since 19th Jul 2015
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#65223, "Does everyone have a complex on here?"
In response to Reply #0
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I agree with the getting rid of the Citizen status. Mostly because it just helps Empire when Empire is already strong. That and I've never really seen them looked down upon in Empire. They are all buddy-buddy.
The rest of what you suggested is really not viable. Mostly because A) You do not specify why and B) You do not specify how. These mostly defeat the purpose of making a suggestion.
I do not understand people that make suggestions Anon. It is like they are afraid of being judged by their forum name instead of by their bad ideas. Who knows.
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Murphy | Thu 03-Nov-16 08:12 PM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
1639 posts
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#65224, "Not everyone."
In response to Reply #2
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Some of us post proudly and without hiding.
As for on topic, I don't like the idea. It's the first time in ages I can realistically count on having a chance for Emperorship.
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Drehir | Fri 04-Nov-16 02:45 PM |
Member since 19th Jul 2015
85 posts
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#65240, "RE: Not everyone."
In response to Reply #3
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I was mostly kidding about people having a complex.
It just seems silly when you already have anonymity by having a forum handle to then require more anonymity. But hey, to each their own. The imms know who I am and I don't really care, but then again I actually like the imms. Except that Dest. I'm kidding. Dest is actually cool.
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Bemused | Thu 03-Nov-16 10:57 PM |
Member since 15th Oct 2013
665 posts
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#65230, "RE: Does everyone have a complex on here?"
In response to Reply #2
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>I agree with the getting rid of the Citizen status. Mostly >because it just helps Empire when Empire is already strong. >That and I've never really seen them looked down upon in >Empire. They are all buddy-buddy.
I'm not suggesting bowing down to citizens or anything but if you have a servant cleaning your house, do you treat them like ####? No, you treat them with respect. Same goes for citizens. You don't screw them over for no reason if you want an orderly empire. They are not scum, they are a substantial step up from non-citizens.
>I do not understand people that make suggestions Anon. It is >like they are afraid of being judged by their forum name >instead of by their bad ideas. Who knows.
I don't understand people that don't claim characters. It is like they are afraid of being judged by their bad in character actions. Who knows.
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Aereglen | Fri 04-Nov-16 05:23 AM |
Member since 23rd Apr 2011
476 posts
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#65234, "You are too negative too often."
In response to Reply #8
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>I don't understand people that don't claim characters. It is >like they are afraid of being judged by their bad in character >actions. Who knows.
I don't understand how people don't understand that. Or you do understand, but you just say this crap anyway because you're a negative nancy. I never understood what good came from having that kind of attitude.
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TMNS | Fri 04-Nov-16 06:03 AM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
2670 posts
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#65235, "I know at least one player..."
In response to Reply #12
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...that doesn't claim their characters, and all of their characters are the #### McGee.
They got sick of being accused of being an "IMM pet" and all that jazz. Which sucks, because they are awesome.
Me, I decided like 5 years ago I was going to put my real name on everything, as one man's mission to bring accountability back to the Interwebs. I don't think I'm succeeding much....
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Bemused | Fri 04-Nov-16 06:51 AM |
Member since 15th Oct 2013
665 posts
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#65237, "I was responding to negativity but you are too blind to..."
In response to Reply #12
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Aereglen | Fri 04-Nov-16 11:53 AM |
Member since 23rd Apr 2011
476 posts
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#65238, "No you weren't, but maybe you're too blind to see that."
In response to Reply #15
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You started another "make CF Bemused CF" thread and received constructive criticism. It may have been brash, but it was not negative in any way. Instead of actually reading it and using it, you make a statement that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I'll explain so you don't feel the need to respond again. This is a thread on the gameplay forum started by someone using anon, making what Drehir said relevant. You comment about people not claiming characters is not relevant. Have a nice day.
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Kstatida | Fri 04-Nov-16 01:11 PM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
2214 posts
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#65239, "And you continue to ####post without contributing a thi..."
In response to Reply #16
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That's not really a way to make people listen to you.
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Aereglen | Fri 04-Nov-16 06:22 PM |
Member since 23rd Apr 2011
476 posts
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#65241, "You saying this is hypocritical."
In response to Reply #17
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Someone failed to see they were given constructive criticism. I informed them of such. I'm not trying to "make" people listen to me. That's Bemused's MO.
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Kstatida | Fri 04-Nov-16 07:40 PM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
2214 posts
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#65242, "RE: You saying this is hypocritical."
In response to Reply #19
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There's vast difference between making fun of people while being constructive at the same time and doind nothing but going personal on people w/o adding anythingn to the discussion.
You, sir, excel at the latter. While I almost exclusively go (or at least try to) for the earlier (I should admit that the current thread is an exception though).
Browse through your last 100 messages to doublecheck.
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Aereglen | Fri 04-Nov-16 11:27 PM |
Member since 23rd Apr 2011
476 posts
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#65243, "Double negative."
In response to Reply #20
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Look at what I say. Yes I tend to be negative, but it's almost always pointing out a negative. -(-a) = +a
I will try to be less negative and more constructive.
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Kstatida | Thu 03-Nov-16 07:55 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
2214 posts
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#65222, "No"
In response to Reply #0
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Empire is perfect as it is. I would remove possibility of doing alliances though. Battle/empire peace? HELL NO! Trimpire? HELL NO. If you want to defend imperial law - bring oath!
That shouid make for nicer dynamics.
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Athioles | Thu 03-Nov-16 09:46 PM |
Member since 09th Jan 2011
392 posts
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#65225, "I still say just merge Empire and Trib."
In response to Reply #1
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Have a "Law Sect" that any class (and maybe even neutrals?) can join.
It's not like Fortlander didn't unofficially merge years ago anyway.
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Murphy | Thu 03-Nov-16 10:08 PM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
1639 posts
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#65226, "Why not merge Fortress and Empire?"
In response to Reply #4
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They have way more in common than Tribunal and Empire.
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Murphy | Thu 03-Nov-16 10:51 PM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
1639 posts
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#65228, "Sounds like a plan (n/t)"
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Murphy | Thu 03-Nov-16 10:51 PM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
1639 posts
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#65229, "WTF... How did it post twice?"
In response to Reply #6
Edited on Thu 03-Nov-16 10:52 PM
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Kstatida | Fri 04-Nov-16 06:20 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
2214 posts
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#65236, "RE: I would ..."
In response to Reply #6
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>Battle vs Masters >Fort vs Empire >Outlander vs Tribunal
Except for Empire is Empire vs all. Hence 4 leaders and strong powers and easy come easy go and stuff. Empire is so awesome. But it should really be trampling on everyone (even tribbies).
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Athioles | Fri 04-Nov-16 01:04 AM |
Member since 09th Jan 2011
392 posts
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#65233, "Someone's been partaking in the potato wine I see."
In response to Reply #5
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TMNS | Fri 04-Nov-16 12:08 AM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
2670 posts
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#65231, "Says the man who played a Sunwarden married to an Elder..."
In response to Reply #4
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Athioles | Fri 04-Nov-16 01:04 AM |
Member since 09th Jan 2011
392 posts
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#65232, "Yep."
In response to Reply #9
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And it was done long before I got there.
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