I didn't lost my link to cf , like..never. But reraid, I see that guy on pk..AND! I lost my link. Typical situation in Cf. But after that we see something new..

Something really new. Like set LUCK - 0. Hello Daevryn. Hello hello, my friend. Did you rejected it for like...10 years? Sorry.

Enjoy and ask yourself, do you want to play that game.
Here is who don't want to read it all:

The Imm is being polite:

An Immortal says 'And here is why: the players aren't the ones who determine if you are being an OOC clown or not.'


The Imm is asking you for delete:


An Immortal says 'So, did you plan to delete or did you want me to drop you back out in Hamsah?'


And just trying to lie, but you need to read that all.


Enjoy the ####. It will be a long reading. I catched him in the middle, so you will need to read it all.

You tell guy 'You got me while my mind was away'
You tell guy 'But now I feel fine.'
You tell guy 'No point to continue while Gods help you.'
You tell guy 'But you know it, right?'
An Immortal has transferred you.
An Immortal says 'Alright, so here is the deal'
An Immortal says 'You cannot accuse a player of cheating because you were afk or lagging on your end.'
You say 'Yes? Strange isn't it?'

An Immortal says 'No, its not. People lag.'

<< Remember that moment, just remember>>

You say 'My link is NICE'
You say 'Right now'
You say 'But yes'
You say 'its very strange'
An Immortal says 'Lag happens, it happens to me, it happens to people all the time.'

<< Remember that moment, too, lag, ok>>

You say 'I wasn't laggin in 6 hours'
You say 'but..'
You say 'I got lag in pk situation'
You say 'You can explain it how you want.'
You say 'Thank you.'

An Immortal says 'You were probalby being lagged by commands from them?'

<< Remember it too, funny, too bad that I can't name him like Zulgh>>

You say 'I lost my link'
You say 'Not from command spam'
You say 'It was reconnect'
You say 'Please, just please.'

An Immortal says 'you never lost link to the mud'

<<####ING BINGO, YOU OUTED YOURSELF, NOW WATCH THE NEXT>>


You say 'Then...'
You say 'ITS MORE STRANGE'
You say 'Because I actually lost link'
An Immortal says 'Maybe on your end'
An Immortal says 'But you did not disconnect from the mud at all'
You say 'In six hours'
You say 'I lost link'
An Immortal says 'So from the other players perspective, you were connected and functioning.'
You say 'In pk situation'
You say 'Ok'
You say 'Sounds legit'
You say 'Can I post our conversation?'
An Immortal says 'If you think its not, pray about it, don't send tells like that to other players.'
You say 'For all players?'
You say 'I don't ask about something special'
An Immortal says 'I am not sure I understand your question.'
You say 'I ask you..'
You say 'To post our conversation to all players'
An Immortal says 'You are here being told to not speak OOC to other players if you think they are doing something wrong.'
You say 'Both on officials'
An Immortal says 'You are being told to pray about it.'
You say 'And on dios'
You say 'Because'
You say 'Thats sounds soooo ####ty'
You say 'Both of us know that'
An Immortal says 'Actually, it just makes you sound like a sore loser.'
You say 'Oh, really? '
An Immortal says 'You would rather believe someone somehow managed to disconnect you personally from the mud.'
You say 'You call beront sore loser? '
An Immortal says 'While no one else was lagged.'
An Immortal says 'And while no one else disconnected.'
You say 'I call somebody else, not the player'
You say 'Sore looser'
You say 'You want me to ban, sorry'
You say 'So, I ask you again'
You say 'Can I post our conversation to all others?'
An Immortal says 'If you want to post it, and your log that shows your disconnect from the mud, cool.'

<< ОК, HERE'S HE CHANGED HIS MIND, NOW ITS DISCONNECT"

An Immortal says 'I am not gonna stop you from throwing a fit over getting pked.'
You say 'And your comments?'
You say 'Haha, guess I know who you are.'
You say 'Welcome back'
An Immortal says 'I guess, thanks? But I never left.'
An Immortal says 'There was no disconnect from the mud for you, nor a reconnect.'


<< SEE? You got the point, that will #### him soon>>


You say ' '
An Immortal says 'So as far as we can tell and as far as another player can tell.'
You say 'I lost my link, twice.'
An Immortal says 'You were sitting there the whole time, logged in.'
You say 'Well, lets stop'
You say 'Here is my point of view'
You say 'Do you really think'
You say 'That I couldn't kill that guy, with the healer and the other guy?'
An Immortal says 'Based on what happened, I would say no.'
You say 'I am..beront. I was going to kill him'
An Immortal says 'Since... ya know. you died.'
You say 'Then no..questions'
An Immortal says 'Am i supposed to be impressed because of whatever a Beront is?'
You say 'Show yourself please.'
An Immortal says 'Yeah, thats not how this works.'
You say 'Just as I think.'
An Immortal says 'You got pulled here for a talk over your inability to maintain an IC presence.'
An Immortal says 'So you lose the ability to get fun requests such as "Show yourself"'
You say 'Really? It was all ic. Even Gods. But...'
You say 'Haha, you defend your point, and strange that you do it'
An Immortal says 'We both know thats not IC'
You say 'That it was all..miracle.'
You say 'Strange..The immortal summons char'
An Immortal says 'If you *actually* believe that is IC then maybe you should find someone who understands what RP is for some pointers.'
You say 'Because char said something about Gods..'
An Immortal says 'Its because you accused a player of cheating via tell.'

An Immortal says 'Because he pked you.'
You say 'Gods can do anything, but...First time in 10 years, you summoned me.'
You say 'Strange, isn't it.'
You say 'And I am not that type of player who whines about it'
An Immortal says 'And yet... Thats EXACTLY what you did.'
You say '10 years, and you are the first who did it'
You say 'Thats why I asked you to show yourself.'
An Immortal says 'And I told you, thats a privilege you lost by needing to be pulled here in the first place.'
You say 'And I said, I didn't lost link in six hours, but lost it in a good GOOOD pk situation'
An Immortal says 'If you believe someone is cheating, you can pray about it and we can look into it.'
You say 'Twice.'
You say 'Thats why..I said it all IC'
You say 'BUT..'
An Immortal says 'Its not IC to accuse a player of cheating over tells.'
You say 'You summoned me, and asked me about this.'
You say 'Really?'
An Immortal says 'Yes really.'
You say 'Show me my sentence?'
You say 'Please'
You say 'And we will ask others'
An Immortal says 'You mean this one?'
An Immortal says 'No point to continue while Gods help you.'
You say 'YES!'
You say 'Thank you.'


An Immortal says 'Honestly, I don't care if anyone else thinks I am wrong.'


<<NIIIIIIIIIICCEEEEEEEEE>>

You say 'Give me a moment.'
You say 'Log it.'


An Immortal says 'And here is why: the players aren't the ones who determine if you are being an OOC clown or not.'

<<NIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCEEE>>


You say 'Excellent.'
An Immortal says 'Are you familiar with the rules of the game?'
You say 'I am. i said Gods in terms of CF gods.'
You say 'Lets continue'
An Immortal says 'So if you are familiar with the rules'
You say 'You summoned me'
An Immortal says 'You know that all communication is supposed to be IC'
An Immortal says 'you would also be aware of the 2nd to last one in the list'
You say 'Gods..Being Gods? Isn't it?'
An Immortal says '"If a staff member makes a decision regarding rules or gameplay (in persona or otherwise), you are expected to comply with it.'
You say 'Yes, Gods helped him, and blessed him in that fight.'
An Immortal says 'I pulled you here to tell you that you are being OOC with that tell.'
An Immortal says 'You throw a fit about it, and now here we are.'
You say 'But, you made the desision that it was ooc cheating from his side'
You say 'You summoned me, and...asked about this.'
An Immortal says 'Nope'
An Immortal says 'I made a decision that your tell was accusing him of cheating.'
You say 'Now..you want to ban me for that.'

<< Hehe, he wanted that SOOOO much, sorry>>



An Immortal says 'Ban?'
You say 'I understand your poing of view'
An Immortal says 'I pulled you here for an OOC talk'
You say 'So..'
An Immortal says 'no more, no less'
You say 'i said, that GODS, blessed him and helped him in that fight'
You say 'BUT'
You say 'Your desicion was it was ooc cheating, isn't it?'
An Immortal says 'Right before that you told him "strange how my mind is fine now.."'
An Immortal says 'Nope.'
An Immortal says 'My decision was that you were talking in an OOC manner to another player'
You say 'My mind was fine..but then..'
You say 'How its ooc?'
An Immortal says 'Which is why YOU were pulled here'
You say 'The warrior lost his knife or mind?'
You say 'Do you understand what you are doing now?'
An Immortal says 'So that I could tell YOU to not make accusations against another player who you believed to be wronging you in an IC avenue'
You say 'And again..'
You say 'The warrior'
You say 'Told another warrior'
You say 'He lost his mind'
You say 'And'
You say 'Gods blessed his opponent'
An Immortal says 'Whcih is not accurate, and also OOC'
You say 'And...'
You say 'Suddenly..the IMM'
You say 'Summons the other warrior'
An Immortal says 'Nope, I brought you the player here.'
An Immortal says 'This has nothing to do with your character, purely you as the player and your actions.'
You say 'Because of what?'
You say 'I told the other warrior'
An Immortal says 'Because of your inability to maintain an IC conversation.'
You say 'That he was blessed with gods, right?'
An Immortal says 'Nope.'
You say 'Right'
You say 'Repeat please my sentence'
An Immortal says 'I even gave it to you.'
You say 'I said Gods helped him'
An Immortal says 'So this time, you can pull it out again.'
You say 'It was nothing OOOC'
You say 'And..'
An Immortal says 'It has everything to do with OOC'
You say 'Lost my mind'
An Immortal says 'especially when you take your other comments in stride with it'
You say 'Is not OOC'
You say 'My commnets, is my comments'
You say 'Right?'
You say 'What I said in the game'
An Immortal says 'In that situation, no.'
You say 'Was totally IC'
An Immortal says 'And I disagree with your misguided perception of that.'


You say 'What I say here, its another story.'

<<HELLO HELLO>>

You say 'But'
An Immortal says 'Which is why you were pulled here for what should have been a 5 second discussion.'
You say 'You summoned my char'
An Immortal says 'But instead, you continue to somehow think that you are being persecuted.'
You say 'Before that'
An Immortal says 'When there is nothing farther from the truth.'

You say 'Wow'
You say 'Lets stop it here, ok. Lets summ it upp'
You say 'I said nothing OOC in game'
An Immortal says 'But you did.'
You say 'You and qhcf and your officals will repeat the same'
You say 'But...'
You say 'What I said in ROTD'
You say 'WAS OOC'
An Immortal says 'Yup, and so were your tells to the other player.'
You say 'So..'
You say 'No no no'
An Immortal says 'Which is what got you brought here in the first place.'
You say 'It was all IC'
An Immortal says 'And we disagree about that.'
An Immortal says 'Which is why you are here.'
You say 'Gods help to another player? Is it ooc?'
You say 'Do you have every priest or paladin?'
An Immortal says 'When you only talk to the char after dying and imply that you only died to him because of your mind being stolen from you?'
You say 'And..?'
You say 'Wait..'
You say 'Did..you just agreed'
You say 'That I lost my mind in that fight? You watched it? And you agreed on it?'
You say 'Do you know to what I am leading you?'
An Immortal says 'Nope, paraphrasing you'
You say 'OOOOKey'
You say 'Thank you.'
You say 'Good job'
An Immortal says 'I checked what I have and there was no disconnect from you during your fight.'

<< SEE, this how we will catch this XXXX later>>


An Immortal says 'You made a claim that you only died to him beacuse of losing your link.'
You say 'But I did, you saw it, you just admited it. Strange..how you admited it soo fast.'
An Immortal says 'Which is also not accurate.'
You say 'Wait a sec please'
An Immortal says 'This whole thing should have been 5 seconds long.'
You say 'I am logging our conversation.'
An Immortal says 'Im happy for you that you feel the need for that.'
You say 'No prob, you do your work, i am just the player.'
You say 'So, where did we stop?'
You say 'Funny, isn't it?'
An Immortal says 'Whats that?'
An Immortal says 'Now you lost me again.'
You say 'And again. How Gods helped you - is ooc'
You say 'Please tell me'
You say 'I don't know'
You say 'I neved said it IC'
You say ' '
An Immortal says 'Cause just like your earlier tell...'
An Immortal says 'You made a similar implication..'You say 'The Gods helped you '
You say 'The Gods helped you '
You say 'And you summoned me here'
You say 'And now I think'
An Immortal says 'Which circles us back to dont use tells to make accusations against other players.'
You say 'Shady things was done'
You say 'Come on'

An Immortal says 'Fwiw, I did see you lose link that time.'

<<<GOTCHA AGAIN, SOOO YOU CAN SEE WHEN SOMEBODY LOOSE THE LINK! THANK BRO! >>

You say 'Why do we even talk? We have a playerbase, small but solid, lets them to decide?'



You say 'Oh dude, oh dude'
You say 'Do you know that I am phd in compute scince? '
An Immortal says 'Did you catch those last few says?'
An Immortal says 'Im happy for you, I drive a truck for a living =P'
You say 'Do I know how its easy to track ip and ddos it?'
You say ' '
An Immortal says 'You probably know more about that stuff than I do.
An Immortal says 'So ill just take your word for it.'
You say 'Sure, thats why, thats why.'
You say 'And again'
An Immortal says 'Did you catch those last three says?'
You say 'We will post the log and let other judge'
You say 'No, I didn't. But wait, you know when I lost link'
An Immortal says 'Thats fine, just don't out yourself else you are kind of forcing our hand about the future of your character.'

<< Wait wait wait, do you try to provocate me OOC because you know my char? FUNNY >>

You say 'ooops'
You say 'And again, you noticed when I lost link, now you didn't notice when I lost link'
You say 'Don't you think its...a bit strange?'
You say 'I am logging'
You say 'Still'
An Immortal says 'I think its strange that you are trying to scare up some innacurate assumptions'


You say 'Noope.'
You say 'You noticed how I lost link, you said it'
An Immortal says 'So anyways, my commentary still remains the same:'
You say 'But now you didn't notice'M
An Immortal says 'go ahead and post if you want to'
You say 'Thank you.'
An Immortal says 'No, I noticed, which is why I asked if you got those last three says.'
An Immortal says 'Just don't out yoursef'
An Immortal says 'Unless you already planned to delete this character.'

<< No, I will not delete that char, go and you know what to do>>


You say 'Wait'

An Immortal says 'Thats my only request. Seems reasonable right?'


You say 'You noticed that I lost the link'


You say 'But..'

You say 'Before..you said that It was...what?'
You say 'Dude..You are bad at some things.'
You say 'Ok'
You say 'I will post the log'
An Immortal says 'Sure thing pal.'
You say 'Shame on you.'
An Immortal says 'Im not sure what I am bad at based on this, but whatever helps you feel good.'
You say 'You did it, I know you did it.'
An Immortal says 'Saw you reconnect cause im in the room with you?'

<< WAIT WAIT WAIT, YOU SAID I DIDN"T LOOSE LINK? >>

You say ' I was teached to catch people lie.'
You say ' '
You say 'Hello'
You say 'You did.'
An Immortal says 'Whatever helps you toot your own horn.'

<< You are a good imm, thank you, and ..>>

You say 'Funny.'
You say ' '

An Immortal says 'So, did you plan to delete or did you want me to drop you back out in Hamsah?'

<< Thank you, but I will not delete, not, thank you, sorry, sorry pal, bro, fellow>>

You say 'Depends on you pal, depends on you? Will YOU delete after this talk? Or we don't force full imms no more?'

An Immortal says 'Still have no idea what you are getting at.'
You say 'Do you know who was Ordasen?'
An Immortal says 'So I guess I will take your lack of answer as you want to hang out here more.'
You say 'Do you know who was Ordasen?'
An Immortal says 'Either way, I am done with this talk.'
You say 'You knew him'
You say ' '
An Immortal says 'So Hamsah or hang out here?'
An Immortal says 'Choice is yours.'
You say 'Choice is yours, please delete and out yourself.'
An Immortal smirks.
You say 'Or I will post the log'
You say 'And hamsah'
An Immortal says 'Go ahead and post it.'
You say 'Log will be there.'
You say 'Trust me.'
An Immortal says 'Alright'
You say 'Are you sure?'
An Immortal says 'yup'
You say 'Np'
You say 'Bad for you.'
An Immortal says 'Happens.'
You say 'It was a good game'
You say 'Do you want to make it worse?'
An Immortal says 'Put on your IC hat cause youre getting transed'
You say 'Think you do.'
An Immortal says 'So from the other players perspective, you were connected and functioning.'
You say 'In pk situation'
You say 'Ok'

And it's not the ESL deal. It's the fact that you have no basis for what you're claiming, then assert that because the imm disagrees with you it helps prove you're correct, then engage in the " im so right i proved it" despite not only not having proven anything - but actually making your own arguments look worse and worse.


I will say this was good for a laugh, so I hope they don't delete the thread.

It's basically a handbook on "How to act the retard 101".

Too bad, that nobody can understand a single word here.

We told you, they track IP, you said no, they said no. But at the end - they did. You are stupid, sorry.


We told you about luck, you said no, they said no. But at the end - they did. You are stupid, sorry.

We said that Imms are cheating, you said no, they said no. But at the end - they did. You are stupid, sorry.

Hello Yanacek? Hello Sebeok? How that mob to practice?

You should understand, you can't understand simple things. Thats all.

This is how the events in question played out, for those who might be curious.

At 12:46 you were raiding Outlander.

At 12:48 you lost link and immediately reconnected to CF. Interestingly, your IP changes at this moment. That fact isn't necessarily suspect, but someone's IP changing mid-fight is pretty damn weird.

At 12:49 you die in PK.

At 12:50 you lose link and reconnect twice, again swapping IPs.

Between 12:50 and 12:53 you talk some smack, all of which seems rage-induced but IC enough to leave you alone so far.

At 12:54 you you make some comments to one of your opponents that the Immortal who spoke with you felt were thinly-veiled (at best) OOC accusations that said opponent was somehow cheating and that "the gods" were helping them do it. You accuse them of killing you while "your mind was away", a colloquialism in CF for being link-dead, and comment on what a coincidence the timing was, adding "No point to continue while Gods help you".

And then you are pulled in the Realm of the Dead and confronted.

Lastly, and it absolutely does not matter, but it happens to be the case that the Immortal that spoke with you was not the one you asserted it was. It also wasn't me, which is apparently evident in that this person was very nice to you.

.

I have dinamic IP.

WOW, WOW, WOW.

Wait,just wait, do you know what it is? Do..you know..how it works? Do..you know what happend when you vpn loose connections...? Wait..please..?

Second

Post my smack, since I have logs. But you didn't answer on his smorc talks, thank you, but you just missed, thank you again. The log is still there.

WOW WOW WOW.

Gods help you, means Gods help you, you lost again.

But it was your friend, care to name him, please, since I know his name and he should be removed from CF.


No: you don't know how it works, you are just the random guy who trys to help his g.. imm and failed. Sorry!

Mudding from a VPN and expecting not to drop link might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Excellent job.

First you admit a stupid thing, then you admit a smart thing but still piss on yourself. Excellent, just excellent.

To "the Immortal", You handled that like a champ, way to keep your cool in a very awkward conversation.


I also guess that a PHD in computer science in Russia might be a little lacking. Don't need a PHD to know sometimes when you disconnect the MUD doesn't treat you that way. Easy way to tell is when you log back in if you get the message that asks "You are already logged in, are you sure you want to override your session".


Looks like a pretty clear cut case of thin IC terminology to cover a purely OOC accusation. Many of us do it from time to time but as purely a message board lurker the last several months I have seen repeated claims to a specific character linked to beront where that criticism has been leveled.

Lets talk about vpn. What do you know about it and how it works with the dinamic ip from two providers. Your turn. If you will fail, you are moron. Simple rules.

Are you implying that an Immortal sent the DoS attack to your IP? (Since only the Imm would know your IP in order to perform this)

I honestly can't really tell what you're accusing whom of in this log.

Sooo, if you know *nix, is easy.

But I was more about his ####ty answers.

An Imm wanted you to lose, so spammed your IP in order to freeze your link?

gr

n/t

That Imm was trying to correct you to make the game better for everyone.

You showed how much of a turd you are by being a total ass to him.

If it was me as that immortal, I would have banned you.

You failed as an imm, because tryed to out somebody.

You failed as an imm, because your personal feelings came in.

You are moron, simple. Sorry.

having to deal with this junk

that looks like Umiron who is awesome by the way...

he's awesome in that he does a lot of coding, but I've never seen him interact with players in a civil manner.

really polite, helpful, and a boon to all things CF

maybe I'll just say I'm dallevian in the future to get a better response.

and you both short-circuited rather quickly. make up and high five

hockey sucks

That you can't say things in a front. Thats all. Good luck with that.