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Bothered (Anonymous)Tue 03-Feb-15 05:52 PM
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#58278, "Imperial Law"


          

I'm all for player interpretation of Imperial Law. But I'm curious, what the immortal stance is on this?

I think it's pretty cool if you make the mistake of initiating combat on Imperials outside of town then fine, let'm chase you into town. But instead what I think it's fostering is the 'if Empire hits you outside of town, then Empire gets to finish you inside of town.'

Which I think is just absolute crap because it completely nullifies that law in particular.

  

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Reply Its all IC events, Destuvius, 03-Feb-15 06:57 PM, #2
Reply If so, the note was very poorly written., Dallevian, 03-Feb-15 08:59 PM, #7
     Reply Its still all IC events, Destuvius, 03-Feb-15 09:18 PM, #9
          Reply RE: Its still all IC events, TheBluestThumb, 03-Feb-15 09:26 PM, #10
          Reply Because, Tsunami, 03-Feb-15 09:48 PM, #11
          Reply I don't know man., Dallevian, 03-Feb-15 09:51 PM, #12
          Reply I rolled Imperial and ended up deleting when it was obv..., Lhydia, 03-Feb-15 10:18 PM, #13
Reply That is what they are doing. , Perpetual_Noob, 03-Feb-15 06:21 PM, #1
     Reply RE: That is what they are doing. , Daevryn, 03-Feb-15 08:01 PM, #3
          Reply RE: That is what they are doing. , N b M, 03-Feb-15 08:04 PM, #4
          Reply Flag remains, Tsunami, 03-Feb-15 08:09 PM, #6
          Reply RE: That is what they are doing. , Daevryn, 03-Feb-15 09:01 PM, #8
               Reply RE: That is what they are doing. , N b M, 03-Feb-15 10:45 PM, #15
                    Reply Well, that's true., TMNS, 03-Feb-15 10:49 PM, #16
                    Reply RE: That is what they are doing. , Daevryn, 03-Feb-15 10:56 PM, #17
          Reply I doubt they'd do it with Trib around. This is an issue..., TheBluestThumb, 03-Feb-15 08:06 PM, #5
               Reply This. They will only do it when convienient for them. O..., CD, 03-Feb-15 10:36 PM, #14
                    Reply Wouldn't be powergaming if they did otherwise., Murphy, 04-Feb-15 12:30 AM, #18

DestuviusTue 03-Feb-15 06:57 PM
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#58281, "Its all IC events"
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So I'm not going to turn it into an argument with people in an OOC manner.

  

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DallevianTue 03-Feb-15 08:59 PM
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#58286, "If so, the note was very poorly written."
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It covered one thing and that was if you attack an Imperial they can and will kill you in the city; the city, their city, it is fair game, you cannot hide there.

However, what has actually played out is the Empire attacks you, usually to a number of or greater than 3, and then pursues you even in the city.

Orderly be damned.

If you (council and imm patron) want to play something out that is against 15 years of precedence, cool/great, but at least do it well and show your cards a little bit.

  

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DestuviusTue 03-Feb-15 09:18 PM
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#58288, "Its still all IC events"
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For the sake of clarity though, I should add: I have had 0 people try to do anything about this in an IC manner. Not a single person has even made a non-OOC pray about it nor has anyone asked Dest (the character not the admin) anything about it IC.

  

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TheBluestThumbTue 03-Feb-15 09:26 PM
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#58289, "RE: Its still all IC events"
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He's a tatted priest and the Empress.

IC everyone basically assumes he's your voice/hand. It's implied you sort of support him, so why come to you trying to badmouth your apparent favorite? (Favorite in character since he's got the Dest juice/tat/leader position, not meant as an ooc favoritism jab)

  

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TsunamiTue 03-Feb-15 09:48 PM
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#58290, "Because"
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Doing things IC makes more sense than bringing it to the forum.

It's kind of sad what he says, that not one thing has been attempted in character but instead people flood to the forum first off.

  

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DallevianTue 03-Feb-15 09:51 PM
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#58291, "I don't know man."
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I mean, I figured he either had your approval or he didn't and would soon be smacked for it, so why would I bother praying ic/ooc about it?

And you are getting complaints now because what was said in the note is quite a difference than what is playing out.

  

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LhydiaTue 03-Feb-15 10:15 PM
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#58292, "I rolled Imperial and ended up deleting when it was obv..."
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Edited on Tue 03-Feb-15 10:18 PM

          

gr

  

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Perpetual_NoobTue 03-Feb-15 06:21 PM
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#58280, "That is what they are doing. "
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Edited on Tue 03-Feb-15 06:21 PM

          

Attack you outside of town and will finish you in town too.

  

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DaevrynTue 03-Feb-15 08:01 PM
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#58282, "RE: That is what they are doing. "
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Seems like this would be a fun time to play Tribunal...

  

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N b MTue 03-Feb-15 08:04 PM
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#58283, "RE: That is what they are doing. "
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Hahaha,

Till you get rolled by the gank squad and full looted for sticking to the law and trying to enforce it.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

  

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TsunamiTue 03-Feb-15 08:09 PM
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#58285, "Flag remains"
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You're still turning them into an agent of chaos that gets attacked by every guard along the way.

I'm with Destuvius. Keep it IC you ninnies.

  

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DaevrynTue 03-Feb-15 09:01 PM
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#58287, "RE: That is what they are doing. "
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Well, you'd pick something that stands up well to being outnumbered. Basically the kind of guy you'd roll for Scarab or Scion.

  

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N b MTue 03-Feb-15 10:45 PM
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#58294, "RE: That is what they are doing. "
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Yeah, generally... but honestly, do you roll characters for the specific landscape or a specific event that might be gone before you even get close to hero?

I don't, I roll what I want to play. I just can't imagine changing up a role/build idea just to support or deal with a single other character.

  

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TMNSTue 03-Feb-15 10:49 PM
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#58295, "Well, that's true."
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Still, Nep's point is correct.

A "hunter" PK-orientated character in Tribunal or in the works ALREADY for Tribunal must be loving this right now.

  

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DaevrynTue 03-Feb-15 10:56 PM
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#58296, "RE: That is what they are doing. "
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Sort of:

When I could play more than an hour or two a day average tops I absolutely did.

Now I'm more like what you describe.

  

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TheBluestThumbTue 03-Feb-15 08:06 PM
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#58284, "I doubt they'd do it with Trib around. This is an issue..."
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Low playerbase means they can get away with it without the typical IC consequences.

  

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CDTue 03-Feb-15 10:36 PM
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#58293, "This. They will only do it when convienient for them. O..."
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nt

  

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MurphyWed 04-Feb-15 12:30 AM
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#58298, "Wouldn't be powergaming if they did otherwise."
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I mean they can claim Imperial law supercedes all other forms of law but they never ever back it up openly.

On a slightly tangential note, there have been headscratchers about Empire/Trib relations for at least as long as I've played CF:
- As an Imperial, having a wanted flag doesn't mean you can start breaking Imperial Law. Gets sorta overlooked by some.
- At the same time, Empire tends to assume that a wanted Imperial must have broken Imperial law. Not always the case.
- Patrolling guards on Eastern will attack centurions on sight. Here's wishing more Tribs would do that as well.
- Tribs are breaking Imperial law all over the place (by attacking wanted people in the city). Nobody ever points that out.

  

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