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ValguarneraSun 17-Aug-14 09:10 AM
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#56297, "Reposting a binder question:"


          

Hi. The reason we have anonymous posting is not so you can use offensive terms in your anonymous handle.

Reposting someone else's question from here down:
Syntax: garrotte <target>

Using a thin piece of wire, a binder path thief can sneak up behind an unaware
victim and pull it tight around their neck, rendering them unconscious. A
thief who is currently fighting is unable to garrotte anyone. >>> The more adept
the thief is as a binder, the better chance they will have with their garrotte. <<<

See also: THIEVES, BINDER PATH

My success rate on Garrotte seems to be almost reasonable on mobs, but is categorically awful on players, I fail eight times out of ten.

I have some other path skills threaded in which may or may not be tricking the skill, but I promise I'm a full binder otherwise with everything up to my level practiced to 75.

Do I actually have to get to 38 to make Garrotte as reliable as Blackjack or KO poison? It seems to only have the reliability of weaponbutt blackjack or assassin strangle.

I am going to have a more reliable, or at least safer, KO skill built in eventually, but I ask purely for informational purposes rather than to get a buff. Using the skill has gotten me straight up killed or almost-killed multiple times with no other failures on my part other than getting permalagged in response.

  

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TrapperJohn (inactive user)Tue 19-Aug-14 11:53 PM
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#56309, "RE: Reposting a binder question:"
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Garrotte should be about the most reliable KO skill for thieves, though I've heard poison KO is even better.

At 75% you're going to fail at least half the time, but some of this could depend on your targets. There are lots of theories on what makes garrotte more or less successful, but if you were trying to garrotte the same arial over and over, maybe a dex difference was at play, or if you were trying against a giant, maybe size difference exacerbated your failure rate. At 90% you should succeed around 3 out of 4 times, perhaps more against some types of characters than others.

skill learn garrotte and spend a lot of time garrotting everything until you get to 90 or so. binder skills are notoriously hard to improve, so consider taking the apt learner edge. The last successful binder was an elf, and I noticed he took that edge even.

My theory is that hitroll helps. I also found better success garrotting someone after pushing them down (it's easier to steal from resting pcs and mobs too). You should be able to test this on mobs - try garrotting arials above your level or giants above your level.

  

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