I'm with this as much as I'm against it,
vargal,
19-Jan-14 06:43 PM, #1
Use the full name of the individual with your targeting...,
Sarien,
20-Jan-14 11:32 AM, #2
You see no bent here for you to take. n/t,
Homard,
20-Jan-14 11:47 AM, #3
Please think before posting.,
Artificial,
20-Jan-14 12:22 PM, #4
I did think before writing, now you try,
Sarien,
20-Jan-14 12:48 PM, #5
I'm sorry,
Artificial,
20-Jan-14 12:55 PM, #6
I'm sorry too!,
Sarien,
20-Jan-14 01:26 PM, #9
My next name will be Xharlasfinssinaa,
TheProphet1,
23-Jan-14 09:55 PM, #15
RE: My next name will be Xharlasfinssinaa,
-flso,
23-Jan-14 10:09 PM, #16
RE: My next name will be Xharlasfinssinaa,
Sarien,
27-Jan-14 04:49 PM, #17
Uh,
-flso,
23-Jan-14 07:11 PM, #13
Alternatively, deny any char that has gua, out or caba ...,
Eskelian,
20-Jan-14 01:21 PM, #7
RE: Alternatively, deny any char that has gua, out or c...,
Rayihn,
20-Jan-14 01:24 PM, #8
Well, those aren't a "problem" though,
Drag0nSt0rm,
20-Jan-14 06:06 PM, #10
Good point,
Rayihn,
20-Jan-14 06:40 PM, #11
Imms of yore made it so that all names starting with "V...,
DurNominator,
23-Jan-14 06:22 PM, #12
A fix is not really needed for this.,
-flso,
23-Jan-14 07:13 PM, #14
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vargal | Sun 19-Jan-14 06:42 PM |
Member since 07th Apr 2004
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#53719, "I'm with this as much as I'm against it"
In response to Reply #0
Edited on Sun 19-Jan-14 06:43 PM
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Do we ban all names starting with a given set of three letter combinations?
CAB MAR TAR OUT SPE GAT GUA VAN HUN CEN CAP GAR ? That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more potentially exploitable strings.
I think intelligent enforcement is preferable here, rather than simply denying a set of given strings. That also means, later on down the road, when someone comes up with a novel string to exploit there isn't an excuse like "Well, you banned all the other strings so I thought it was OK" followed by drama.
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Sarien | Mon 20-Jan-14 11:32 AM |
Member since 14th Feb 2009
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#53721, "Use the full name of the individual with your targeting..."
In response to Reply #1
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Don't change naming rules just because frankly, you're too ####ing lazy to type out someone's name and want to use an abbreviation...get bent.
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Homard | Mon 20-Jan-14 11:47 AM |
Member since 10th Apr 2010
959 posts
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#53722, "You see no bent here for you to take. n/t"
In response to Reply #2
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Sarien | Mon 20-Jan-14 12:47 PM |
Member since 14th Feb 2009
740 posts
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#53724, "I did think before writing, now you try"
In response to Reply #4
Edited on Mon 20-Jan-14 12:48 PM
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This is only a problem if you use an abbreviation - just as I said.
It used to be you HAD to type out the name of your target completely, this was changed years ago
Prior to this change, I played Selfren - a wholly acceptable name which would be discarded under your request.
Lets use your example:
you are fighting fortie Conjurer, and thief "Archor" comes up
Cranial Archor - problem ####ing solved ZOMG!!! those two extra letters make a game changing difference!
Stop being lazy fattie.
Oyea, go #### yourself.
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Sarien | Mon 20-Jan-14 01:26 PM |
Member since 14th Feb 2009
740 posts
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#53728, "I'm sorry too!"
In response to Reply #6
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In retrospect, you are wight! If the difference between typing "Archo" and "Archor" is entirely too much work for you, then obviously it needs to be changed.
I had no idea the labor I was asking you to go through in order to successfully target people in an online game.
Truly, my bad. They should definitely change this, so you can save the valuable calories it would take you to type an additional character.
Alternatively:
You could suck it up like the rest of us and type out names when necessary.
Then again, if typing 1-2 extra letters is causing you a hard time..maybe you should find a diff hobby.
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TheProphet1 | Thu 23-Jan-14 09:55 PM |
Member since 11th Jan 2012
175 posts
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#53773, "My next name will be Xharlasfinssinaa"
In response to Reply #9
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try typing that quickly during combat
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-flso | Thu 23-Jan-14 10:09 PM |
Member since 02nd Oct 2007
296 posts
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#53774, "RE: My next name will be Xharlasfinssinaa"
In response to Reply #15
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I type xh<TAB> -> my client completes the name.
Macro: I pre-bind X to Xharlasfinssinaa, type X (without hitting enter) -> my client completes the name.
Alias: I pre-alias X to Xharlasfinssinaa, type murder X <ENTER> -> my client sends "murder Xharlasfinssinaa" to the mud.
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Sarien | Mon 27-Jan-14 04:49 PM |
Member since 14th Feb 2009
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#53809, "RE: My next name will be Xharlasfinssinaa"
In response to Reply #16
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yea, I don't understand the huge gap in client know-how...To me, what he posted about is a complete non issue *UNLESS* the person is actually using only a portion of the name E.G. Archo instead of Archor would be still bad. And, I think the IMM's snuff those names out as soon as someone lets them know.
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-flso | Thu 23-Jan-14 07:11 PM |
Member since 02nd Oct 2007
296 posts
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#53770, "Uh"
In response to Reply #6
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Use a better mud client, preferably one with configurable completion
Setup your own aliases for potential targets Setup your own macros for potential targets
and so on and so forth.
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Eskelian | Mon 20-Jan-14 01:19 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
2023 posts
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#53726, "Alternatively, deny any char that has gua, out or caba ..."
In response to Reply #2
Edited on Mon 20-Jan-14 01:21 PM
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If they're obviously exploiting their name.
The Tribunal named Guar was a good example. If you're trying your best to exploit your name mechanically, the character should be denied. That'll put an end to that pretty quick.
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Rayihn | Mon 20-Jan-14 01:24 PM |
Member since 08th Oct 2006
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#53727, "RE: Alternatively, deny any char that has gua, out or c..."
In response to Reply #7
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Chatted this over with some other imms about a possible code fix but it's a little too complex. We'll pretty much handle these on a case-by-case basis, especially because it really does happen by accident sometimes. I did it myself once with a mort conjie named Elena and didn't realize it until some rager walked in and pincered my elemental. So I try and give people the benefit of the doubt here.
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Drag0nSt0rm | Mon 20-Jan-14 06:06 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#53729, "Well, those aren't a "problem" though"
In response to Reply #8
Edited on Mon 20-Jan-14 06:06 PM
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You can type out the full name Elena, and not hit the elemental.
These are not ideal names, but the issue is in completely control of the end user.
However names like Ele the conjurer who conjures elementals. Now that is bug abuse. Since If I walk to you in a room as Ele the conjurer, I show up then my elemental shows up. So if you bash ele (me) you bash elem(ental) instead.
Which is borked, and the same case as the Guar guy, or Mara.
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Rayihn | Mon 20-Jan-14 06:40 PM |
Member since 08th Oct 2006
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#53730, "Good point"
In response to Reply #10
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The main thing I was trying to say that as a staff we will rename these as we catch them. Send up a pray if you see one, we don't always scan the who looking for bad names. We moved the level requirement for rename down a while ago so most imms can now handle it, which I think will help overall with this.
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DurNominator | Thu 23-Jan-14 06:22 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#53769, "Imms of yore made it so that all names starting with "V..."
In response to Reply #8
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Same was done to names starting with "Guar", but the server delete likely nuked the change.
You could always gather a list of the names you want gone, either put them to a forbidden list or make a mob with those as a keyword and put it somewhere unaccessible to players.
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-flso | Thu 23-Jan-14 07:13 PM |
Member since 02nd Oct 2007
296 posts
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#53771, "A fix is not really needed for this."
In response to Reply #8
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Unless the entire name is a server keyword.
If someone thinks it's a problem and doesn't want to spell names out, he can setup his mud client accordingly to deal with it.
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